The 2025 NFL Pre-Draft General Talk

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Corbin said:
IMO McVay IS going to grab a WR burner in this draft to help in that 11 personnel, something Tutu hasn't been able to do. There is a lot that fits that mold.
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I’ve been re-watching all of the games. I noticed that Tutu really rounds his routes off sometimes.

Does he do it to maintain speed? Or can’t he decelerate cut, and accelerate quickly enough to get back to top speed? If so, then that negates some of his speed and is likely why he wasn’t a regularly featured part of the offense. I see him as more of a Chris Givens. McVay had DeSean Jackson to play that role and didn’t use him.

So, would they really draft a deep threat receiver? I think if they do then they should be looking at Higgins. He has height and is an easier target. Plus Steve Smith seems to love him.
 
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Elmgrovegnome said:
I’ve been re-watching all of the games. I noticed that Tutu really rounds his routes off sometimes.

Does he do it to maintain speed? Or can’t he decelerate cut, and accelerate quickly enough to get back to top speed? If so, then that negates some of his speed and is likely why he wasn’t a regularly featured part of the offense. I see him as more of a Chris Givens. McVay had DeSean Jackson to play that role and didn’t use him.

So, would they really draft a derp threat receiver? I think if they do then they should be looking at Higgins. He has height and is an easier target. Plus Steve Smith seems to love him.
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I'm starting to think McVay designs his 11 offense to feature only 2 of the WR positions. Even though I've never been a Tutu fan I have to admit McVay likes scheming for the few tbh. Kupp was slowing down but there was plenty of times I seen him with some space but then Matt never looked that direction, only Puka or Robinson.

Tutu is probably feeling that he rounds off his routes to break to look at the ball faster to make himself available faster, I'd assume to increase his chances to get it thrown his way. IMO we get a true bell cow type of RB and it'll open this offense up dramatically which in turn will open up all the skill positions some.
 
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Tried to pback back end talent to, missed on Darien Porter and Strong :(
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Memento said:
I dunno; women saw Ben Franklin as attractive once upon a time... ;)
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Modern Americans are privileged and have no ideas of the realities of the past or other countries, only retarded American standards. Travel some, you’ll understand.
 
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Titans, Shedeur Sanders agree to cancel private workout

What message does the move send?
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Titans, Shedeur Sanders agree to cancel private workout​

The Titans had a private workout with Miami quarterback Cam Ward. They won’t be having a private workout with Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders.

Via Jim Wyatt of the team’s official website, the Titans and Sanders mutually agreed to cancel the private workout after Friday’s Pro Day.

“The Titans have seen 4 years of game film, scouted multiple games, and now attended a Pro Day they described as very impressive,” Wyatt said.

Still, a private workout provides insight that can’t be obtained through watching film, attending games, and/or witnessing a scripted Pro Day workout. And they happen without anyone knowing what was said or done to make the team more, or less, inclined to take the player.

Regardless of the spin that the team will put on the move, the decision sends a message that the Titans won’t be picking Sanders.

And that’s where the 3D chess of draft strategy becomes potentially relevant. If the Titans trade out of the first overall pick with a team that wants to spring up and pick Ward, the Titans would still need a quarterback. And so, as they willingly take a later place in line, they’d have a blinking red light regarding the possibility of picking Sanders. Which would make them a prime candidate to be leapfrogged by another team that thinks their Plan B would be Shedeur.

Alternatively, it could be as simple as the Titans knowing they want Ward. Or it might have happened because Sanders or someone close to him (like his father, Deion) asking the Titans whether there’s any chance the Titans would take Shedeur over Ward — and the Titans failing to persuade Sanders or someone close to him (like his father, Deion) — that there’s a chance they’d take Shedeur over Ward.

However it happened, the move will be widely viewed as a message that the Titans don’t plan to draft Sanders. Which could become very relevant if/when they trade out of the top pick and Sanders is slipping toward wherever the Titans will be picking post-trade.
 
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Elmgrovegnome said:
I’ve been re-watching all of the games. I noticed that Tutu really rounds his routes off sometimes.

Does he do it to maintain speed? Or can’t he decelerate cut, and accelerate quickly enough to get back to top speed? If so, then that negates some of his speed and is likely why he wasn’t a regularly featured part of the offense. I see him as more of a Chris Givens. McVay had DeSean Jackson to play that role and didn’t use him.

So, would they really draft a deep threat receiver? I think if they do then they should be looking at Higgins. He has height and is an easier target. Plus Steve Smith seems to love him.
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I haven't rewatched any game but from what I remember, Tutu was always wide open when he rounds his routes. But I may be wrong.

I know he was wide open a lot. Even when he was covered he vacuumed in the ball.

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I’ll continue on The Rams to draft a DE,OT,MLb,TE with there first 2 picks. IMO a CB is not a big need early. Trying not to get excited until draft week.
 
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Titans, Shedeur Sanders agree to cancel private workout

What message does the move send?
www.nbcsports.com

Titans, Shedeur Sanders agree to cancel private workout​

The Titans had a private workout with Miami quarterback Cam Ward. They won’t be having a private workout with Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders.

Via Jim Wyatt of the team’s official website, the Titans and Sanders mutually agreed to cancel the private workout after Friday’s Pro Day.

“The Titans have seen 4 years of game film, scouted multiple games, and now attended a Pro Day they described as very impressive,” Wyatt said.

Still, a private workout provides insight that can’t be obtained through watching film, attending games, and/or witnessing a scripted Pro Day workout. And they happen without anyone knowing what was said or done to make the team more, or less, inclined to take the player.

Regardless of the spin that the team will put on the move, the decision sends a message that the Titans won’t be picking Sanders.

And that’s where the 3D chess of draft strategy becomes potentially relevant. If the Titans trade out of the first overall pick with a team that wants to spring up and pick Ward, the Titans would still need a quarterback. And so, as they willingly take a later place in line, they’d have a blinking red light regarding the possibility of picking Sanders. Which would make them a prime candidate to be leapfrogged by another team that thinks their Plan B would be Shedeur.

Alternatively, it could be as simple as the Titans knowing they want Ward. Or it might have happened because Sanders or someone close to him (like his father, Deion) asking the Titans whether there’s any chance the Titans would take Shedeur over Ward — and the Titans failing to persuade Sanders or someone close to him (like his father, Deion) — that there’s a chance they’d take Shedeur over Ward.

However it happened, the move will be widely viewed as a message that the Titans don’t plan to draft Sanders. Which could become very relevant if/when they trade out of the top pick and Sanders is slipping toward wherever the Titans will be picking post-trade.
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Well that seals the number one pick.

Now that leaves the Browns and what they are going to do at QB.

I have a strong feeling they take Shedeur.
 
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Corbin said:
Well that seals the number one pick.

Now that leaves the Browns and what they are going to do at QB.

I have a strong feeling they take Shedeur.
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Not sure how I feel on that, one would surmise that Sanders should be the pick, but the Browns are unconventional for better or worse. Also would not be shocked if they picked Dart at 2 either.
 
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den-the-coach said:
Not sure how I feel on that, one would surmise that Sanders should be the pick, but the Browns are unconventional for better or worse. Also would not be shocked if they picked Dart at 2 either.
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There is a ton of people (talking heads) that think he shouldn’t be the pick and they should go Ward or Abdul Carter.

Picking Sanders seems like it’s against conventional wisdom right now and exactly Brownslike to do.
 
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den-the-coach said:
Not sure how I feel on that, one would surmise that Sanders should be the pick, but the Browns are unconventional for better or worse. Also would not be shocked if they picked Dart at 2 either.
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Lot of smoke that Browns will take Hunter and Giants will take Carter and they'll both try to do something beginning of 2nd/trade up
 
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Memento said:
I dunno; women saw Ben Franklin as attractive once upon a time... ;)
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:laugh4:

On a serious note, I think Franklin had a few things going for him that superseded looks; wealth, power, and the ability to talk anyone into doing what he wanted.

There was once a mob of 500 angry Scots/Irish citizens fed up with serving as the de facto militia for the Quakers, that sat safely, far from the frontier in Philadelphia. This armed Scots/Irish mob was upset about a lack of compensation for their troubles fighting on the frontier, and were headed to Philadelphia to take out their anger on the peaceful Lenape Indians as a show of defiance. The Quakers were unarmed and never fought in a battle. Franklin quickly armed the Quakers, planned a defense strategy but then bravely headed off the mob about 50 miles away, all by himself. He was able to convince the rowdy and drunken mob to go back to Harrisburg and write down their demands and peacefully deliver the message to the Governor.

If he could do that, talking the panties off a few woman would be child’s play to him.
 
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