7 Trades/Draft picks to increase 2020 cap space

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Malibu

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Interesting thoughts. The overall impression most of these ideas definitely increase our Cap space. Some I like, some I am on the fence on some I don't like.

The obvious one is Goff to Washington for the #2 pick and we get Trent Williams as well they get our #52 pick. For Washington this solves their QB problem and for us we get Williams who I am a huge fan of. This assumes we don't take Chase Young and we take Tua my question why do that Tua unfortunately is coming back from a really bad injury. Although he is a great QB too much risk and I would not give them the #52 pick. Also we would be passing on the most dominant DE in the draft. We might be able to trade back with Miami for their 3 firsts or two guests and a second then we lose out on Young and Tua but the team would have a ton of ammo to get slot of players and we still get Williams as well.

I like Higbey for #23 from Pat's I would do that all day we can get a top LB, T, OLB, C, G trade back etc. alit of options.

Like Everett for a 2nd - might push for a little more he is growing and coming into his prime.

Don't like Cooks for a 3rd. Cooks will bounce back now is not the time to trade him.

Other trades are okay not earth shattering.

Thoughts?
 

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Goff isn't going anyway. We are not moving both TE's at the same time, that makes zero cents. Higbee is staying imho. Trent Williams isn't worth much anymore and we got Big Wit for 3 more years. Noteboom is only a LT prospect after not doing well inside.
Hate to be a dick, but I think dude isn't that knowledgeable w/ his write-up.
 

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The Cooks trade is the only one I would consider, given his health issues and the cap relief. Well, that and the Everett trade for a 2nd rounder, although I don't think we could actually fetch that.

Fuck no on the Higbee trade, not after what he showed last year, the uncertainty of whether a draft pick would work out (we KNOW what we've got in Higbee), and the fact that the trade was with the Patriots. Just no.

Hate to be a dick, but I think dude isn't that knowledgeable w/ his write-up.

Dick or not, you're probably correct. Either that or he knows they are shit trades and he's throwing it out there for clicks.
 

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Goff isn't going anyway. We are not moving both TE's at the same time, that makes zero cents. Higbee is staying imho. Trent Williams isn't worth much anymore and we got Big Wit for 3 more years. Noteboom is only a LT prospect after not doing well inside.
Hate to be a dick, but I think dude isn't that knowledgeable w/ his write-up.
No one said they should do all or more than one. Each is an idea to possible free up X amount of cap space and what each team will expect that's it.
 

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No one said they should do all or more than one. Each is an idea to possible free up X amount of cap space and what each team will expect that's it.
The first one listed though does neither of those things. It adds cap and does t add picks, yes it does upgrade our 2nd rounder but destroys our cap. And for what? It adds an injury prone 30+ year old LT when we have a healthy 30+ year old LT. It also either gives us a young QB who’s an unknown in the NFL with recent injury issues or with only Wolford ad QB on the roster.
 

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I am not a fan of Tua, I think he benefits from the recent success of QB's that play RPO and utilize that skill set.
 

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The first one listed though does neither of those things. It adds cap and does t add picks, yes it does upgrade our 2nd rounder but destroys our cap. And for what? It adds an injury prone 30+ year old LT when we have a healthy 30+ year old LT. It also either gives us a young QB who’s an unknown in the NFL with recent injury issues or with only Wolford ad QB on the roster.
You know Williams one of the two best LTs in the NFL. He was out due to cancer for the bulk of his injuries most not physical.

BTW I guess you wouldn't have taken Saffold from Indiana he was injury prone and outside of his first year he had multiple years of injury. The list is long in the NFL regarding injuries. I got a better idea let's just keep the shitty oline as is because it is the main reason we are not in the playoffs last year. I am not remotely advocating for that trade because I am Goff's biggest fan and why start over even if we save a ton of money to acquire a QB that is not vetted in the NFL like Goff already is. But fun to analyze because options open up massively, could take Young, could take That could trade with Miami and get a big haul, could trade with the Chargers and get a premium player maybe and something else lot of options open up.
 

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You know Williams one of the two best LTs in the NFL. He was out due to cancer for the bulk of his injuries most not physical.

BTW I guess you wouldn't have taken Saffold from Indiana he was injury prone and outside of his first year he had multiple years of injury. The list is long in the NFL regarding injuries. I got a better idea let's just keep the shitty oline as is because it is the main reason we are not in the playoffs last year. I am not remotely advocating for that trade because I am Goff's biggest fan and why start over even if we save a ton of money to acquire a QB that is not vetted in the NFL like Goff already is. But fun to analyze because options open up massively, could take Young, could take That could trade with Miami and get a big haul, could trade with the Chargers and get a premium player maybe and something else lot of options open up.
Sorry but no.

Saffold was a three year starter starting 41 games, not injury prone. He was very injury prone early in his career after being healthy in college. He was average at best at tackle and only got good when we moved him inside.

In Trent Williams 9 year career he’s played 16 games twice the last time was 2013.

We just paid JARED a roster bonus on the 19th of $21 million and the rest of his signing bonus escalated forward for another $20 milllion so you have us paying him $41 million on this years cap hit and we’re somehow saving $19 million? Then you’re going to add Williams’ salary demands of $20 million. Not sure how paying $61 million in 2020 plus what we signed Whit for results in a cap savings of $19 million he claims.

And on multiple trades he’s got us trading guys for 2020 draft picks with a June 1st designation. That designation is for players cut.

I get it this is the fun season to prognosticate but that site continually has really bad ideas.

Also even for a 1st round pick why would we trade Higbee and create a hole on the roster when he was just coming on and it’s not a good TE draft.
 

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Sorry but no.

Saffold was a three year starter starting 41 games, not injury prone. He was very injury prone early in his career after being healthy in college. He was average at best at tackle and only got good when we moved him inside.

In Trent Williams 9 year career he’s played 16 games twice the last time was 2013.

We just paid JARED a roster bonus on the 19th of $21 million and the rest of his signing bonus escalated forward for another $20 milllion so you have us paying him $41 million on this years cap hit and we’re somehow saving $19 million? Then you’re going to add Williams’ salary demands of $20 million. Not sure how paying $61 million in 2020 plus what we signed Whit for results in a cap savings of $19 million he claims.

And on multiple trades he’s got us trading guys for 2020 draft picks with a June 1st designation. That designation is for players cut.

I get it this is the fun season to prognosticate but that site continually has really bad ideas.

Also even for a 1st round pick why would we trade Higbee and create a hole on the roster when he was just coming on and it’s not a good TE draft.
Saffold was very injury prone at Indiana. When he got to the Rams he played his first year 2010 no problem then year after that he was really injured - 2011, 13, '14, '15 he and Bradford was like glass - you don't remember those years where Saffold would go down I sure do.
 

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Saffold was very injury prone at Indiana. When he got to the Rams he played his first year 2010 no problem then year after that he was really injured - 2011, 13, '14, '15 he and Bradford was like glass - you don't remember those years where Saffold would go down I sure do.
But you also don't remember the promise of the shoulder surgeries, which was the main reason for those injured years. They promised that the shoulders would give him no problems in the future.

And they haven't.
 
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Washington wouldn't do that trade with us. They can just draft Young and have a cost controlled qb start in Haskins. He showed a lot of improvement at the end of the year.
 

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Saffold was very injury prone at Indiana. When he got to the Rams he played his first year 2010 no problem then year after that he was really injured - 2011, 13, '14, '15 he and Bradford was like glass - you don't remember those years where Saffold would go down I sure do.
Three year starter played who started 41 games in those 3 years. That doesn't tell me he missed a lot of games to injuries but ok. And I said he was very injury prone early in his career he just wasn't that way in college. None of his draft profiles mention injury problems either.
 

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As someone who was a big Wentz fan, I will eat crow and admit Goff has definitely managed to stay on the field and help our team more than he has. Yes, Wentz has a ring and we lost in the SB, but the Eagles has SB success without Wentz (in spite of?)
 

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Highly unlikely any of those trades have much of a chance of happening. I would make a couple of them if we could actually get that much.
 

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Three year starter played who started 41 games in those 3 years. That doesn't tell me he missed a lot of games to injuries but ok. And I said he was very injury prone early in his career he just wasn't that way in college. None of his draft profiles mention injury problems either.
Injured in last two years at Indiana that was the knock on him.