Murray is going in to his 7th year, Herbert his 6th, neither guy has won a playoff game. Both guy seemed to have regressed from when they came in to the league. Love going in to his 6th year and also seemed to regress.
Elite? Stroud was great as a rookie, stepped back as a 2nd year, will see what year 3 holds. As for Daniels? Stroud is the example of not jumping too soon on a player's band wagon.
Elite to me is HOF bound type players Mahomes/Allen/Burrow, I dont see any of those 5 joining this short list
And yes, Stafford is Elite and HOF bound, but not included because we're talking over the next 5 years or so