50 coaches polled on who are the top QB'S in the league.

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2021 NFL Quarterback Tiers: 50 coaches and evaluators rank the league’s starters

Mike Sando Jul 28, 2021



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T-7. Matthew Stafford

Tier 1 votes: 4 | Tier 2 votes: 38 | Tier 3 votes: 8 | 2020 Tier: 2

Stafford rose two spots from last year after Drew Brees retired and Ben Roethlisberger fell into Tier 3. The vote distribution for the Lions-turned-Rams starter was virtually unchanged. Quite a few think he can ascend under coach Sean McVay, but durability concerns persist.

“McVay’s system will play to his strengths,” an NFC North coach said. “Stafford played some of his better football when they did more under-center stuff at Detroit. Before that, they were so much gun, dropback pass game and you saw the gunslinger in him, where he had his up-and-down games.”

The Lions during Stafford’s starting tenure ranked among the NFL’s top half in combined defensive and special-teams EPA three times. The team won nine, 10 and 11 games in those seasons, but only 5.7 on average in the other seasons in which Stafford started at least 10 games. The Rams in 2018 reached the Super Bowl despite ranking 19th in that combined category. They were third last season on the strength of a top-ranked defense, which offset a 31st-ranked special teams.

“Stafford is significantly better than Goff, and he changes the ceiling of that team from an offensive standpoint,” a defensive coach said, “but they were also No. 1 defensively last year and lost their coordinator. One of Stafford’s issues has been trusting his arm too much. The system just by play-calling will limit some of those opportunities. It is blended into the play-action and the boots and the set-up shots where Matt can still uncork stuff.”

The Lions were 0-3 in postseason play with Stafford. The Rams won a playoff game with Goff just last season. A former GM compared dumping Goff to a team firing its coach after an 8-8 season. Any team making such a move had better win more than eight games the next year.

“I’m going to say he’s a 3,” an evaluator from an NFC West rival said. “Durability is the issue, and then he has those one-off, what-the-hell-was-that type decision making. But that level of talent with McVay, trust me, I wish it wasn’t in our division.”
 

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Interesting note on Kyler Murray.

"Last season, Fox NFL analyst Brock Huard said he was hearing from Cardinals sources that the quarterback was “laser-focused on Sunday, he loves to compete, but that laser focus is not there Monday through Saturday.”


This is strictly my personal opinion but,
I posted before him not toughing out the play-in game against the Rams spoke volumes to me.
If he was able to come back in late in the game he should have never left the game.
His teams playoff hopes were on the line and he left them hanging
I question his heart and desire.
 

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“I’m going to say he’s a 3,” an evaluator from an NFC West rival said. “Durability is the issue, and then he has those one-off, what-the-hell-was-that type decision making. But that level of talent with McVay, trust me, I wish it wasn’t in our division.”

Alright, so who are we thinking? Scared Seattle coach? Cardinals coach worried we'll be dropping 50 on them instead of 30? Or Whiner coach pooper peeved that Stafford's team told Shannahan to turn in for the night while Matthew was clinking glasses with McVay?

Perhaps we need a poll.
 

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Alright, so who are we thinking? Scared Seattle coach? Cardinals coach worried we'll be dropping 50 on them instead of 30? Or Whiner coach pooper peeved that Stafford's team told Shannahan to turn in for the night while Matthew was clinking glasses with McVay?

Perhaps we need a poll.
Sure sounds like some Whiner bullshit!!!
 

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Sounds like some shit Lynch would say. Defensive type and pissed his team missed out.
 

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"I’m going to say he’s a 3,” an evaluator from an NFC West rival said. “Durability is the issue..."

Stafford has missed 8 of his last 160 games. That's 5%. Yeah, sure...drop him to tier 3 because he's not durable. No agenda there, right?

Over the same span, Tom Brady has missed 19 games (15 of you don't count the suspensio). But he's the ultimate iron man. I got it.
 
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"I’m going to say he’s a 3,” an evaluator from an NFC West rival said. “Durability is the issue..."

Stafford has missed 8 of his last 160 games. That's 5%. Yeah, sure...drop him to tier 3 because he's not durable. No agenda there, right?

Over the same span, Tom Brady has missed 19 games (15 of you don't count the suspensio). But he's the ultimate iron man. I got it.
To be fair Tom Brady was drafted what? 9 years or almost a decade before Stafford?
 

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I thought it was an interesting list, different than the ones you see on the networks. Usually Kyler and Lamar are higher but here they are just guys if you can keep them in the pocket, the rams have made a habit of doing that to Kyler so that part might be accurate.
Goff is in the bottom half, yikes. From the super bowl to Detroit, Goff’s career trajectory isn’t looking so good right now but hey, maybe he’ll do what Staff did.
 

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I was just giving one example. Stafford played a full season last year after suffering a back injury two years ago. Brady had torn ACL/MCL and missed most of a season but both QB's are durable over a long span. I get the concern for anyone who takes a QB's punishment but I wouldn't knock Stafford down because of it
 

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Hype train and media slobber doesn't appear to be factored into that formula which would explain why Lamar and Kyler aren't top 3
 

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Hype train and media slobber doesn't appear to be factored into that formula which would explain why Lamar and Kyler aren't top 3
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