24 Hours of Greg Cosell

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Bills top 2 priorities likely OT + WR. Question becomes what they perceive as value as #10. Do they see Floyd/Reiff worthy of 10th pick?
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Discussing position value always fascinating. Is anything 100%? Always easy to talk abstactly re: position value. Teams must line up + play.
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Asked re: McNutt. Long strider w/build up speed. Question will be play speed + explosion as vertical WR. Can he win isolation routes v man?
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Used to be bothered by QB throwing motions if awkward or different. Because of that was totally wrong about Rivers. Don't focus on it much.
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Asked about pro days re: QB. Never raise my opinion re: throwing in shorts + T-shirt to own WR in controlled situation. Patently absurd.
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Don't see Roethlisberger/Osweiler comparison at all. Osweiler does not have those kind of movement skills. Plus not as consistnetly accurate
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Always easy to say you need a great QB to win consistently. What happens when you don't have one. How do you approach draft + build team?
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Asked about Foles. Slow arm speed limits driving the ball. Heavy feet. Needs space to throw. Showed better traits when had time + space.
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Top QB always camouflage, + compensate for any OL weaknesses. Saw that w/P. Manning for yrs. He was reason for few sacks more than OL.
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Often comes down to how best teams can camouflage, + compensate for weaknesses + limitations they have on each side of ball.
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Always reminded of being told by someone that no need to take QB in 1st rd because Brady made it as 6th rd pick. Always easy after the fact.
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Can always find high picks that failed, low rd picks that worked, even FA that made it. So much team dependent, scheme dependent + coaching.
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Point I'm trying to make is that it's very hard to speak in absolutes when talking players, positions, schemes. A lot of factors, variables.
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There could be 5, maybe 6 LT prospects taken in 1st rd of draft. Most of them likely taken due to value of position. Usually like that.
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Teams reach for LT prospects (ATL w/Baker a few yrs ago) because of perceived value of position. Still that way. Should it be that way?
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Last 4 SB win LT: Diehl (twice), aging Clifton, Bushrod, Starks. None of them high level LT. Does that mean LT should be devalued in draft.
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Great debate yesterday re: RB value. Think about this. LT always considered priority position in NFL + by extension the draft. Stay awith me
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To follow up my last tweet, where then does Richardson get drafted? Where should he get drafted? Could BS Martin do same thing for a team?
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No question lot of late rd/FA RB have been successful. Inarguable. Question then becomes where do you draft a RB, regardless of talent?
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I wasn't kidding re: McCoy, just responding to tweets. Trying to understand different viewpoints. That's what is so great about all this.
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RB value great debate. Is McCoy just an interchangeable player to PHL? Are there 10-12 players that could do what he does?
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Someone raised devaluation of RB issue. Another fascinating query. There are many teams, like CLE, that need to run. Is RB devalued to them?
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Brees is not an exception. His traits are measurable, identifiable + quantifiable on film.Examples: decision-making, anticipation, accuracy.
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My point re: Moore was not to knock him. It's that there's direct correlation between physical attributes + consistent success in NFL.
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Asked about Claiborne. Smooth athlete. Not as physically gifted as P. Peterson. A fluid mirror press corner, much like way C. Bailey plays.
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Just asked about K. Moore. Winningest QB in NCAA. For those who believe in "he's a winner" theory, is he a 1st rd pick? Intangibls, smart.
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Evolution of NFL pass game (large majority of passes <10 yds in air from LOS) enhance value of QBs. Easier throws dominate. More QB value.
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Impossible to predict when next QB will go after Luck, RGIII + Tannehill. My guess: no other QB would have 1st rd grade, but you never know.
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I've seen Cousins compared to Dalton. Dalton managed + manipulated by scheme but also threw with great anticipation, especially in red zone
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Decision making (both pre + post snap), timing, anticipation, pocket movement, ball location can all compensate for some passing limitations
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Often QB discussion revolves around what can be coached, + what can't. System critical for QBs with passing limitations. Still can succeed.
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Another thought on Cousins. What I didn't see was refined pocket movement. Often drifted into pressure + increased difficulty of throws.
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Cousins has sparked lot of debate. Didn't see efficiency I expected. Could drive ball better with slight change in footwork at top of drop.
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I always try to remember atching college players tha a lot of guys play in the NFL + contribute. Not black + white, polarizing evaluations.
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More Cousins. Tendency to drift back in response to pressure. Bad habit that must end. Would need to be highly managed by scheme.
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Watched 5 gms of Cousins. Disappointed. Saw limited passer w/average arm strength. Needed functional space to throw. Plant + throw passer.
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RB Poole. Liked film.Tough inside for his size. Pressed hole, cut decisively. Got skinny thru small cracks. Laterally quick. Natural wiggle.
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WVU Irvin a quick accelerator. Exploded off edge. Excellent closing speed. Reminded me of Colts Mathis at times. Movement to play 3-4 OLB.
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Film gave little sense of how WR Hill will transition. No routes, straight line running. Tall high cut strider with limited lateral movement
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Maybe on reason you don't see true "5 techs" coming into NFL is college teams rarely play 3-4 base fronts. Always a projection with a player
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Curry interesting watch. Not a get low, bend the edge rusher. More of speed to power rusher. Strong + active hands, deceptive closing speed.
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A lot of questions about best "5 technique" in 3-4. League moving away from pure 3-4 fronts with "5 techs". A lot more 1 gap concepts.
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Branch will be seen by many as 3-4 OLB. Not sure he has flexibility + movement skills unless primarily a pass rusher. Sub-package player?
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Branch does not have explosion + flexibility of pure edge rusher. More straight line with long arms + leverage. 4-3 rush DE or 3-4 OLB?
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Overall with this WR class it will be very important which teams draft them. Specific skill sets that must be recognized + maximized.
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Asked about Kirkpatrick. Not sure why people talk about move to S. Skill set to be quality corner. Needs technique work but can be coached.
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Cox far more versatile than Poe. Cox "3 tech", can rush QB from inside. Also aligned at DE at MSU + showed quicks + burst as edge rusher.
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RE: Poe. Always a debate among scouts/coaches re: physical/athletic skill set v. college production. No right answer.
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RE: DT Poe. Outstanding skill set: Size, athleticism, quickness, burst for a 350 lb man. Concern was lack of production. Won't impact draft.
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Great point made re: slot receivers. Different shapes + sizes based on team. But overall point is they are important, not afterthoughts.
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More David: Played SLB at NEB. Where's best fit in NFL? Saw some similarities to D. Washington when he came out + he now plays in a 3-4.
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LB David really intriguing. At times an explosive quality to his movement. Quick reactor with burst. Sideline-to-sideline range.
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A lot of WR in NFL put up numbers depending on scheme. Often must separate numbers (hard in fantasy world) from actual skill set.
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In a league in which fewer passes are thrown 10+ yds in air from LOS, is teh slot receiver not more important than ever? Just asking?
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Asked about DT. Really like Cox. Natural athleticism + movement. Balance + flexibility to rush QB. Great scheme versatility. Played DT/DE.
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Barron not a single high safety consistently (not that kind of pure range) but can easily be a half field defender in 2 deep shells.
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Always tough for me to say where a player should be drafted. I don't see Jeffery as an overall 1st rd talent but each draft is own entity.
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Overall Jeffery is a stright line long strider with some build up speed who lacks lateral quicks + agility. A scheme + QB specific WR.
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WR Jeffery best traits size + hands. Makes contested catches. Not laterally quick. Not vertically explosive but long strides eat up ground.
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Safety another position not valued highly. Will that change in this TE era? Barron easily best S in draft. Multiple skill set. Played man.
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Coples been compared to M. Williams. Physical skill set similar coming out of college. Not as athletic as Peppers. Can he become pass rusher
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Great point re: Osweiler v. Bosie St.: Lack of pocket toughness, locked onto primary, forced throws, inconsistent accuracy. A tough watch.
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Coples at times flashed strong hands + natural power. Much more of power/strength profile. Effective as inside pass rusher in sub-packages.
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Coples will be polaring in draft rooms. Power/leverage rusher more than speed/quickness rusher. Didn't have flexibility of edge rusher.
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Here's question based on extensive study of NFL tape: Why are slot WR + slot corners not valued more highly? Seem simply as scheme players?
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RE; Osweiler QB often drafted much higher than grades. Didn't think Osweiler had arm strength I'm reading about. Not naturally accurate.
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RB Martin: Ran with velocity + power. Low center of gravity. Balance + body control. Some wiggle but not elusive. Mentality of feature back.
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Someone said Osweiler could get into 1st rd. Absolutely not 1st rd QB re: on tape. Needed functional space to step into throws. Big concern.
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RB Miller I see as pure zone scheme runner. Excellent downhill burst but not much lateral explosion. Critical difference. One cut + go.
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A lot of responses re: McClellan. Here's a bold + controversial comment: See some down the road similarities to Packers C. Matthews.
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Great point made re: WR who struggle to separate v. man. Dependent on scheme + QB. Why college production must be put in right context.
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Kept watching LSU Brockers. More + more games. A project. A player who will be drafted based on what he might become not what he is now.
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Facinated by pointless debate re: Richardson's 40 time. Irrelevant. Top end speed might be least important attribute to be great NFL back.
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# of WR scheme specific. Will need to be utilized in specific ways. Jeffery + Sanu fit that profile. Can they win v. man on outside.
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Player I loved watching was SDSU LB Burriss. Trying to figure out where he best projects. Don't see him as a pure rush LB. Need help.
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LIked RB Pead. Naturally quick + explosive. Dynamic + decisive north-south runner.Some similarities to J. Charles when he came out of Texas.
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Menzie a great discussion. Lot of people project him to S. My question is why. Great slot corner. Would likely play about 60% of snaps.
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3 interesting players re: high % of 3 WR sets + nickel personnel: WRs Wylie + Wright, + CB Menzie. Menzie best slot CB I saw on film.
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Thought C. Jones had similar body type to CIN DE Dunlap. Dunlap more naturally athletic. Jones intriguing re: size, length, movement combo.
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Many players become, especially on D, function of how they are utilized. C. Jones (Syr) to me is not a 3-4 OLB. Others will disagree.
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One of most intriguing prospects is Graham. Most vertically explosive WR in draft. Small frame, + limited understanding of route running.
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Like CB Gilmore. Need to see more. Quick feet, fluid hips, smooth change of direction. Aggressive + challenging in off coverage + press man.
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2 small scholl corners I liked are Bentley + Steed. Bentley off coverage cluer, reads thru from WR to QB. Steed quicker on film than 40 time
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Thought McClellan just scratching surface as pass rusher. Balance + body control. Ability to get skinny as blitzer from 2 point stance.
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See it different than some but like McClellan as 3-4 OLB. Naturally athletic. Thought he was deceptively explosive with change of direction.
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WR Jenkins interesting prospect. Ability to play outside + in slot. Both short area quicks + vertical speed, especially with free access.
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Will Eagles look to draft an OT in 1st rd? 2 best FA options ar elikely McNeil + Bell. Bell intriguing. Some potential as starting LT.
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Some of my players on film (does not mean they will all be 1st rd picks): LB McClellan, C Jones, RB Pead, S Mitchell, WR Jenkins.
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Let's talk some football on Final Four Saturday. Less than a month until the draft.I have now seen about 175 players on film. It's been fun.
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