WOW I think Ray Rice is in BIG trouble

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ChrisW

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Yea...Looks like the bastard started it (he leans in, seems to grab her and say something that pisses her off) and she charges forward and he cold cocks her into the elevator handhold. The way her face hit the railing was brutal.

This one is one mofo. And for those wondering why she still married him?

Welcome to domestic abuse on the woman's side 101.

Ban. For. Life.

Stockholm Syndrome is a bitch.
 

LesBaker

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What ALSO stood out to me was he didn't immediately bend over to see how badly she was hurt he just stood there and admired his work

Yes! It was hideous watching him standing there obviously jacking his jaw at her. I could not believe he didn't bend over to check on her when she was obviously hurt.

Bad news.
 

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Stockholm Syndrome is a bitch.

Pretty much. Domestic violence isn't only physical, mental as well. Not a bit surprised she stuck with him. Significant portion of those in these types of relationships, on the receiving end of the violence, someone how it into their heads that the violence inflicted on them was their fault, so they "forgive" the perps. The money from the relationship just makes it easier.

It's a sick, twisted thing.

Like most agree though, his actions after the fact in the elevator were more damning than the actual punch. Dragged her around like a doll. Didn't seem at all sorry or worried about her. Just propped inside the elevator entry and walked off.
 

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Ravens have cut him.

Now let's see who is dumb enough to sign him...
 

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I didn't click on the link to see the video but I did go to TMZ to watch the 4 minute one they had and it looks like even before they got into the elevator, Rice spit on or at his wife. She turned around and justifiably gave him a little slap to the face and they both entered the elevator.

I wonder what she sees in him... maybe its the paycheck but now that he's released and banned she should reconsider.
 

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When Rice drags her halfway out the elevator and lets her head drop to the floor? Disgusting.
I drop a 20# bag of potatoes on the ground more gentle than that.
 

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And I call bullcrap on that. No review my ass. If he didn't I'd consider it willful neglect of his responsibilities. He's not a judge in a court of law deciding on admissible vs inadmissible evidence. He BETTER be on the hot seat for this.

Agreed. Since he answers to the owners, maybe they should terminate his contract for neglect of duties.
 

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Of course Roger has seen it. I saw it shortly after it happened. Good thing the NFL has Goodell to judiciously hand out punishment. I mean smoking a little pot is WAY worse than this - right? Way to go Roger. You the man.
yeah, I'd have to agree. Of course Roger the dodger saw the videos before he made his decision, just like he saw the spygate vids. C'mon, the guy sits on top of a $10B corporation with a huge security apparatus, he knows what's going on.
 

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Don't disagree with this - except for speculating about their relationship when we literally have nothing to base anything on. She should have left him the moment she came too, but she makes her own decision.... if he's abusive at home, she should leave him, imo.
OMG, really? You didn't just really say this did you? Take a minute to think about your statement, and then respond. Please tell me you didn't think this thru.
 

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OMG, really? You didn't just really say this did you? Take a minute to think about your statement, and then respond. Please tell me you didn't think this thru.

That I think she should have left him after she regained consciousness? What, you think she should have stayed with him after being abused?
 

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I didn't click on the link to see the video but I did go to TMZ to watch the 4 minute one they had and it looks like even before they got into the elevator, Rice spit on or at his wife. She turned around and justifiably gave him a little slap to the face and they both entered the elevator.

I wonder what she sees in him... maybe its the paycheck but now that he's released and banned she should reconsider.
Good eye, I had to re-watch the video to pick that up. Didn't realize he spit on her the first time.

I hope she didn't sign a prenuptial agreement.
 

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That I think she should have left him after she regained consciousness? What, you think she should have stayed with him after being abused?
That you're insinuating she is somehow to blame for what happened to her.
 

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There's a salient point in keeping things even-keeled and "harmonious"; then there's just be a speech Nazi.

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That you're insinuating she is somehow to blame for what happened to her.
never said that at all - just that i think she should have left, but i have no control over her decisions.. i can't tell you how many females would have been done the next day - she married him a month later
 

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i wouldn't call it an "integrity" issue - let's not forget ray rice lied to everyone..from goodell to coaches to the locker room.. he was not defending himself in that elevator
 

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Word is that Harvey Levin is going to come out that the NFL and specifically Goodell knew about that tape. Someone else posted that here that Harvey Levin talked with some Fox5 guy.

Which is partly why I think Goodell HAD TO suspend Rice for the year once the video went public. Which is despicable. It tells us that the initial intent was to WITH KNOWLEDGE of the full extent of Ray Rice's actions, try to sweep this under the rug if Ray Rice "kissed the ring", cleaned up his act and played nice. They'd give him a one time pass. The league would lie and say that they hadn't seen the tape and would do the damage control dance it knows so well.

Except... people revolted and so uniformly from so many cross-sections of society that Goodell just couldn't run from it.

And now, with the tape coming out, he's got to cut Ray Rice loose.

Just one problem.

It's going to come out that Goodell knew all along.

The NEXT question is does this eventually get Goodell, too?

And Ray McDonald has to know that he's in for something similar. Someone who cared about these things would be seriously worried about losing a year, but these guys who hit women don't strike me as guys who worry about...things.

I do think that based on Ray Rice's new suspension that if the reports are true that Ray McDonald choked his pregnant girlfriend and committed violence that cause defensive bruising on her arms, then yeah, he's gonna get a year AND his outright release.
 

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http://deadspin.com/someone-is-lying-about-whether-the-nfl-saw-the-ray-rice-1631901404

Someone Is Lying About Whether The NFL Saw The Ray Rice Tape

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Now that we've all seen video of Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice knocking out his then-fiancée Janay Palmer, a set of related and legitimate questions comes up. Who all saw this video before today? When did they see it? Did the NFL use it to determine Rice's two-game suspension?


Video: Ray Rice Knocks Out His Fiancée In An Elevator
Below, via TMZ, is the punch that got Ravens running back Ray Rice a two-game suspension from the…Read more

Here's SI's Peter King, back in July:

There is one other thing I did not write or refer to, and that is the other videotape the NFL and some Ravens officials have seen, from the security camera inside the elevator at the time of the physical altercation between Rice and his fiancée.

And here's ESPN's Chris Mortensen, also from July.

We saw the TMZ video of what happened outside—when he was dragging her out unconscious—but inside, I'm told from those who have seen the video, it wasn't pretty. In fact, she attacks him—we don't know the reason why—and he strikes her, strikes her hard. And her head—according to the sources I've spoken to—struck the rail inside the elevator and she was unconscious.

Which is exactly what today's video shows.

Here's ESPN's Jane McManus, today:

And what evidence did police have? Back in July, Ravens PR told us this in an email:

Only thing we know for sure is that police who arrested Ray and Janay and then let them leave together that night saw the video.

But outwardly, and possibly for reasons having to do with both the legal elements of the case and with public relations, the NFL itself was opaque on whether it had seen the video.

Privately, top reporters were told in no uncertain terms that the video existed, that the NFL had seen it, that it showed Janay Palmer acting violently toward Rice, and that, if released, it would go some way toward mitigating the anger against him. One of the league's most devoted mouthpieces described the video for us on an off-the-record basis, going off what his sources had told him. The implication was clear:If you saw this video, you'd know why Rice only got two games.

Now that the video's out, the NFL and the Ravens are reversing course.

Chris Mortensen @mortreport Follow
NFL: Ray Rice video was not made available to them,despite requests to law enforcement. Nothing on whether NFL had account of what happened

Jeff Zrebiec @jeffzrebiecsun Follow
Aiello: "We requested from law enforcement and all information about the incident, including the video from inside the elevator. ..."

Jeff Zrebiec @jeffzrebiecsun Follow
Con'td: "That video was not made available to us and no one in our office has seen it until today."

Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora Follow
Ravens officials had not seen this Rice video prior to today but he had described actions in detail. Didn't "sugarcoat" it source said...

Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora Follow
So while the actual footage today was new to the Ravens visually, the description Rice gave them was in line with what the video displayed

There are three possible explanations here. The first is that every single reporter who said the NFL had seen the video was lying. This seems unlikely, since they were all telling the same lie, both for public consumption and in their off-the-record talks with us.

The second is that the NFL was lying to all of the top football reporters back then about having seen the video, in some attempt to smear Janay Palmer.

The third is that the NFL is lying now about not having seen the video—that league officials saw what everyone has now seen, for whatever reason actually found it exculpatory, and are now making false claims to protect the league's image. This interpretation is supported by an employee of the Revel, the Atlantic City casino where the fight took place. He tells TMZ that the NFL saw the footage before disciplining Rice.

Whatever the case, it's almost certain that the NFL lied at some stage here, and that the league played a handful of its most loyal reporters in the process, suborning them into a smear campaign against a victim of domestic violence. Those reporters, who regularly and uncritically pass along the league's party line but are rarely exposed like this, are the ones who look foolish now. Maybe it's time for them to cut these particular puppet strings and name the sources who burned them so badly, which would do something to show that they're reporters, and not stooges. If you'd like to outsource the job to us, feel free to email us.​