Will Rams look to go for two more often moving forward?/Wagoner

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Will Rams look to go for two more often moving forward?
By Nick Wagoner

http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-ra...ll-rams-look-to-go-for-two-more-often-in-2015

EARTH CITY, Mo. -- With the official announcement coming from the NFL this week that the extra point line of scrimmage is moving back from the 2-yard line to the 15-yard line, it's left many wondering if teams will take a different approach to what they do after scoring touchdowns.

It will likely lead to teams at least giving more consideration to attempting 2-point conversions on a regular basis. It likely won't change much for the St. Louis Rams, though, given the success that kicker Greg Zuerlein has had on attempts on 32-33 yard field goals in the controlled climate and conditions of the Edward Jones Dome.

But what about when the Rams play on the road and the conditions aren't as good? One could argue that the Rams should take a longer look at going for two regardless of situation. Since 2001, the Rams have gone for two on 29 occasions. They've converted those tries 19 times, good for a 65.5 percent conversion rate. That ranks third in the NFL in conversion percentage in that span, trailing only the Pittsburgh Steelers and Chicago Bears.

While that number might look somewhat misleading since many of those tries didn't come with Jeff Fisher as head coach, there are more numbers that would support his being more aggressive in going for two. While the Steelers and Bears are ahead of the Rams on conversion rate since 2001, Fisher's former team that ranks fourth.

That's right, the Tennessee Titans are 16-of-27 on two-point conversions for a 59.3 percent rate, good for fourth in the league. In looking at those four teams, there seems to be a common thread that they're generally considered power-running teams capable of moving a pile 2 yards for a conversion.

If those numbers aren't enough to sway some teams to consider going for it more often, we can turn to some analytics from our friends at NumberFire. According to chief analyst Keith Goldner, the expected point total of a 2-point conversion from the 2-yard line is actually higher than an extra point from the 15-yard line.

Teams converted the extra point from the 2-yard line 99.7 percent of the time. The new extra point from the 15 is expected to have a conversion rate of 93.58 percent.

Conversely, 2-point conversions from the 2-yard line are converted about 48 percent of the time. But since the two-point conversion counts for double the points, it actually spits out an expected point total of .960, which is higher than the extra point from the 15-yard line. Here's the full breakdown from NumberFire on why it might make sense to go for two on a more consistent basis while factoring in game situation, conditions and more.

Many analytics types have long argued the appeal of the 2-point conversion. But now that change has come to the extra point, it's something the Rams and the rest of the league might now have to look at much closer.
 

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Coaches are still going to play the mathematics game as it relates to points after touchdowns, so I don't think it'll jump up much. But then again, this is Fisher we're talking about so you can throw all that logic stuff right out the window. Instead of straight-up going for 2, they'll probably dish out some more trickery just because it's fun.
 

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I can't help but wonder if some team (first thought Patriots) abandon the extra point and go full-two.

Some team might.
 

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I can't help but wonder if some team (first thought Patriots) abandon the extra point and go full-two.

Some team might.
Way too many variables to hazard a guess on this!! JMHO!
 

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Wagoner as usual is regurgitating.

The 93.6% number is misleading in that it represents field goals from right , left and center hash marks. The percentage from the center hash mark is 98- 99% which changes the whole equation.

Just sayin'.
 

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I can't help but wonder if some team (first thought Patriots) abandon the extra point and go full-two.

Some team might.

The Horns did this back in 2000 when kicker, Jeff Wilkins, was nursing an injury. Mad Mike just repeatedly dialed up 2-point attempts for a full game.
 

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I'm kicking...cut out the injury factor...unless GURLEY and the refrigerators are READY!
 

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It'll probably take the fake 2pt play out of the playbook for the most part but not used much anyways in the NFL. Without a doubt, more 2pt plays will be tried though, I guess you could still drop kick it from the 15 if you wanted right?