Why the Rams can't build an offense around Todd Gurley

[Stranger]

Had to stop reading it.

yup, made it to the Vikings comparison and exited.

 

[DaveFan'51]

It's not going to work. In the modern NFL, it's simply not a consistently winning strategy to build your offense around any running back. In the modern NFL, passing is king, and you need to build your offense around a quarterback.

"BS"

NOT ME!!
I've Been around this League a Loooong Time!!
And what Fisher is obviously going to try and do can work, " What goes around comes around!" A strong Running game, with an un-bending D has worked before and it can work again!! Teams TODAY are not being built to defend against it!! IT'S TIME has come again!! The Rams will show the World!! And "YES I'M A HOMER" But an educated, and experienced one!!:shades::snicker:

 

[Akrasian]

"BS"

NOT ME!!
I've Been around this League a Loooong Time!!
And what Fisher is obviously going to try and do can work, " What goes around comes around!" A strong Running game, with an un-bending D has worked before and it can work again!! Teams TODAY are not being built to defend against it!! IT'S TIME has come again!! The Rams will show the World!! And "YES I'M A HOMER" But an educated, and experienced one!!:shades::snicker:

And of course - despite the rhetoric - the Rams are NOT trying to build a run only team. Seems to me that they traded for a young QB who was in the Pro Bowl a year ago. They resigned their top WR. They resigned a TE, and made it plain they expected him to be an important part of the offense. They have Austin also.

While the Rams do expect to run a LOT - they are planning on having a far better passing game than the Vikings had the year the writer wrote about. It'll basically be a balanced attack, with a somewhat stronger emphasis on the run ultimately - but with long passes and quick play action passes too. Add in excellent special teams and a potentially dominating defense - and yes, the Rams could compete for a title IF things break right.

 

[Mikey Ram]

I have feeling that, with an improved running game, our supposedly weak receiver corps might suddenly seem a lot better...Not to mention a "starting" QB under center...

 

[RAGRam]

Fun fact, teams with an above average rushing attack (defined by me as a yards per attempt greater than 4.2) and an above average defence (defined by me as top 16 for points allowed) had an average record of 10-6, in fact there was only one (of 8) team that had a losing record, and they were 31st worst in INT%.

 

[Stranger]

We suck. Fisher sucks. Gurley will disappoint. Foles will fail now that he is in a Rams uniform. At best we'll have a .500 season. Ultimately, we're permanently relegated to bottom feeder status in the eyes of all important NFL journalists.

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[Stranger]

And look what Aaron Schatz, author of the above article and founder of FootallOutsiders has to say about his beloved Seahags on ABCNews.com...

"Over a three-year period, the DVOA ratings system definitely scores Seattle as one of the best defenses of the past 25 years"

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/seattles-ranks-time/story?id=28230274


And here Aaron gives us "the lowdown on why Seattle is just so darn good"... but admits that "he is not a trained statistician"...


View: https://youtu.be/ga_cR0p_1Ek

 

[tempests]

Offenses that are built around a RB and aren't more than complimentary in other phases don't fare well.

However, a good QB/RB pairing has always been a boon to offenses. He mentions examples of this with other teams but apparently doesn't consider that Foles could be a good QB as well.

 

[LumberTubs]

Last time I checked you're still awarded the yards you gain by running the ball. You still get 6 points if you run it into the end zone.

All this talk about running backs being a thing of the past annoys me.

 

[Alan]

RAGRam agreeing with the author:
Fun fact, teams with an above average rushing attack (defined by me as a yards per attempt greater than 4.2) and an above average defence (defined by me as top 16 for points allowed) had an average record of 10-6, in fact there was only one (of 8) team that had a losing record, and they were 31st worst in INT%.

That's what she said.
"Otherwise, even the Gurley everyone hopes to see won't be enough to take the Rams much past 10-6."

 

[Alan]

Stranger with this:
"Over a three-year period, the DVOA ratings system definitely scores Seattle as one of the best defenses of the past 25 years"

Are you agreeing or disagreeing with him? Cause I kind of agree with that. Remember, he only said one of the best and not the best.

 

[RAGRam]

That's what he said.
"Otherwise, even the Gurley everyone hopes to see won't be enough to take the Rams much past 10-6."

You see that's why people should read articles before posting, bloody idiots .

Yeah a lot will depend on the QB, even in a run first O you need a QB who isn't going to turn the ball over every chance he gets. Fortunately Foles has shown he can do that (unfortunately he's also shown the opposite).

 

[Alan]

RAGRam poking fun at himself:
You see that's why people should read articles before posting, bloody idiots .

Yeah a lot will depend on the QB, even in a run first O you need a QB who isn't going to turn the ball over every chance he gets. Fortunately Foles has shown he can do that (unfortunately he's also shown the opposite).

I agree with that RAG. I doubt we'd have finished better than 10-6 last year even with Gurley doing his best AP imitation.

I'm not going to comment about the merits of the article but in the author's defense, he did put it in perspective at the end by acknowledging you could be a playoff caliber team but to get past that you need more.

Like the Shehag's #1 rated D for example.

 

[LazyWinker]

I blame Trent Richardson for any criticism Gurley has and continues to receive

 

[Noregar]

Football Outsiders and PFF are different sides of the same turd :eek: IMO.

 

[Stel]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/13090969/why-st-louis-rams-build-offense-todd-gurley-nfl

[paraphrased] Other people haven't done it recently so the Rams can't either.

I'm guessing the guy gets paid by the word, not quality. I rewrote his article to make it more succinct.

 

[manmaderam]

With as many talented RB's on the roster, I would like to see the Rams pull out the ol' Wishbone Offense every so often to really prove the author of this ridiculous statement wrong!

 

[Psycho_X]

A team with a crappy defense has to throw the ball down field no question in order to keep up. A defense that can defend both the pass and the run and excels at stopping the QB through either pass protection or rushing the passer can run the ball all they like as long as they have a QB capable of hitting the long throws off play action and capable of scoring in the red zone. The last part is to be seen but I think the Seahawks have proven this formula lately and I think Foles is perfectly capable given he has protection.

 

[LACHAMP46]

Yeah this was a strange piece....Especially following the success of the NFC West recently....

Superbowl 49: Yards rushing (by winner): 57 Yards passing (by winner): 328
Yards rushing (loser): 162 Yards passing (by loser): 247

Never saw a running team blow a game like this...never. I almost started thinking like my momma, the fix is IN!!!!

 

[snackdaddy]

I love when a writer says "The fact that he may not". Fact means there is no doubt. May not means there is a doubt. Which is it?