Why All The Evans Hate?

[Mister Sin]

All I see is people talking about Watkins. Maybe y'all didn't watch much SEC ball, but Mike Evans IS why Manziel looked good. I know Watkins is a stud, I would love to have him. But I don't know that I take any receiver over Evans. The dude was such a beast. I didn't see Watkins play consistently, I've only seen highlights. So, I'm hoping someone here has watched both play a lot and can kinda break it down for me. I see Evans play, and the guy uses his body/size better than most guys I've ever seen.

 

[blackbart]

I haven't seen anyone hatin on Evans ust a whole bunch of posts (RFIP) touting Watkins. Evans has the size we don't have developed but my problem is with either of them is they are liekly to take a year or two to develop. By then do we need them or is the Oline more of a need by then.

 

[RFIP]

How many times have you seen Manzeil have to get in this guys grill? He's a bit of a head case and not a fluid route runner. He's more VJax/Quick ie slow starters who aren't open but need the ball anyways...in Quick's case that usually ends in disaster.

 

[…..]

you talking about the same Evans that was flagged twice in the 1st quarter for unsportsmanlike conduct toward the officials?

He going to have to learn to earn his way.....it wont be handed to him.

 

[Mister Sin]

He reminds me of Jackson. We all love our guys, and they got flagged an ungodly amount last Sunday. Refs are idiots. Yea, I noticed that the RFIP boys are in love with Watkins, I'm not a draftnit, I don't know a whole lot about him, hoping to get some insight. But I've seen Evans just dominate.

 

[RFIP]

Watch Watkins tomorrow night vs OSU.

Also go back and check out one of his videos I posted here last week.

 

[jjab360]

Honestly, I'm pretty much done with the Watkins vs. Evans debate, at least until the combine. Both are pretty good players (though one is clearly more physically dominant than the other), but the Watkins fans seem to completely lack objectivity in the matter.

 

[Mister Sin]

Didn't aim for this to turn into an argument fellas. But I think the combine will show a lot. If Evans can run under a 4.5 which I don't see happening. He will be hard to pass IMO

 

[Angry Ram]

Honestly, I'm pretty much done with the Watkins vs. Evans debate, at least until the combine. Both are pretty good players (though one is clearly more physically dominant than the other), but the Watkins fans seem to completely lack objectivity in the matter.

Which is why I'm beginning to hate draft talk more and more each year. Just b/c you have "your guy" doesn't mean someone else can't be as good. It's more of a problem on a certain other board than here tho.

 

[V3]

I think Evans is more of the type of WR the Rams need. We need someone that's big and physical to go against the physical DB's in our division. I'll form my opinion on who I prefer later but right now, just going off what fits the Rams better, I think Evans would be preferred.

Just kind of a side note: Is there a reason Cook couldn't be converted to WR to fill that role on the team? He's basically Evans in terms of physical attributes.

 

[LosAngelesRams]

Honestly, I'm pretty much done with the Watkins vs. Evans debate, at least until the combine. Both are pretty good players (though one is clearly more physically dominant than the other), but the Watkins fans seem to completely lack objectivity in the matter.

What!? you don't want to fight about this?.... come on, come on.... Watkins is OBV the best receiver in the draft and till infinity!
:heh:

 

[Mister Sin]

I think Evans is more of the type of WR the Rams need. We need someone that's big and physical to go against the physical DB's in our division. I'll form my opinion on who I prefer later but right now, just going off what fits the Rams better, I think Evans would be preferred.

Just kind of a side note: Is there a reason Cook couldn't be converted to WR to fill that role on the team? He's basically Evans in terms of physical attributes.

I have thought this too. He has receiver speed, can't block for shit.

 

[rdlkgliders]

We need a guy who can stretch the field, I don't see that in Evans at the next level he is not as NFL ready as lee and Watkins.

 

[iced]

Honestly, I'm pretty much done with the Watkins vs. Evans debate, at least until the combine. Both are pretty good players (though one is clearly more physically dominant than the other), but the Watkins fans seem to completely lack objectivity in the matter.

I wouldn't say a few posters applies to "all watkins" fans...

I mean come on this is Sammy Watkins we're talking about... his tears could care cancer, he just never cries..

 

[Sum1]

I don't see the top end talent in Evans. I really don't think he'd add anything more than what Quick is right now. In fact, I think Quick has a lot more upside than Evans in almost every area.

 

[V3]

We need a guy who can stretch the field, I don't see that in Evans at the next level he is not as NFL ready as lee and Watkins.

Givens and Austin can both stretch the field. That's almost all the Givens can do...at least that's what he did last year. I'm beginning to wonder if all that extra mass he added in the offseason slowed him down.

 

[jjab360]

I wouldn't say a few posters applies to "all watkins" fans...

I mean come on this is Sammy Watkins we're talking about... his tears could care cancer, he just never cries..

Lol, but yeah, you're right. What I meant to say was some of the Watkins fans.

 

[Mister Sin]

Givens and Austin can both stretch the field. That's almost all the Givens can do...at least that's what he did last year. I'm beginning to wonder if all that extra mass he added in the offseason slowed him down.

I was just thinking that about Givens the other day. Also,
How come Tayvon never got those deep balls? He is faster than CG, yet he never had back to back 50+ yard catch games. Seems those would have been good for his confidence.

 

[jjab360]

I don't see the top end talent in Evans. I really don't think he'd add anything more than what Quick is right now. In fact, I think Quick has a lot more upside than Evans in almost every area.

That's a pretty ridiculous stance to take, IMO. What does Quick do better than Evans?

Is he bigger? No, Evans has two inches and 15 pounds on him.
Is he faster? Not really.
Does he have better hands? Not at all.
Does he have better body control? Nah, Evans is elite here.
Does he have better ball skills? Quick juggles a lot of balls, a lot of his highlights in college were double catches. Not a good sign.
Was he more pro-ready? Quick notoriously had an extremely simple college playbook at App State, he didn't even have a positions coach. Evans will be a lot more prepared coming out of the SEC.

Saying Quick has more upside than Evans is like saying Fendi Onobun has more upside than Jimmy Graham, imo. They might have almost similar measurables, but one has the mentality for the position and the other one simply does not.

 

[Sum1]

That's a pretty ridiculous stance to take, IMO. What does Quick do better than Evans?

Is he bigger? No, Evans has two inches and 15 pounds on him.
Is he faster? Not really.
Does he have better hands? Not at all.
Does he have better body control? Nah, Evans is elite here.
Does he have better ball skills? Quick juggles a lot of balls, a lot of his highlights in college were double catches. Not a good sign.
Was he more pro-ready? Quick notoriously had an extremely simple college playbook at App State, he didn't even have a positions coach. Evans will be a lot more prepared coming out of the SEC.

Saying Quick has more upside than Evans is like saying Fendi Onobun has more upside than Jimmy Graham, imo. They might have almost similar measurables, but one has the mentality for the position and the other one simply does not.

Lol...oh, so I said Quick is Jimmy Graham? I think that analogy is ridiculous considering Evans hasn't played a down in the NFL.

After watching Quick in camp and what I had seen of his college play compared to the games and highlights I have watched of Evans I feel Brian Quick is still a better prospect. My opinion.