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Which free agents will be paid too much?

By Around The NFL staff NFL.com
Published: March 3, 2015 at 11:00 a.m.
Updated: March 3, 2015 at 11:41 a.m.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ts-will-be-paid-too-much?campaign=Twitter_atn

Free agency is fool's gold more often than most fans want to admit. We all get excited about shiny, new signings while suffering from collective amnesia.

History tells us that the majority of the big names on our Top 101 free agents list will get overpaid. Players usually get to free agency for a reason, and it's hard to find the right fit in the right scheme for the right money.

Here's a list of players the Around The NFL crew believes will get overpaid this year:

Pernell McPhee

Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome doesn't let the great ones get away. McPhee reminds us a lot of Adalius Thomas, Arthur Jones, Dannell Ellerbe, Paul Kruger, Jarrett Johnson and Bart Scott. They were all excellent Ravens defenders who played their best football in Baltimore. McPhee is versatile and intriguing, but he was a part-time player throughout his Ravens run. Even in his breakout 2014 season, McPhee played under 600 snaps. He's a fine pass rusher, but not every team will know how to use him. -- Gregg Rosenthal

Ndamukong Suh

First, I am in no way opposed to anyone getting paid. Now that we have that out of the way, I think whatever amount of money wrangles in Ndamukong Suh will be too much. The NFL has created a system in which top-heavy salary caps often fail. Positional spending balance is necessary to ensure a harmonious locker room and a roster that maintains a competitive fire. All that aside, Suh will likely be looking at something in the neighborhood of J.J. Watt's $51.8 million guaranteed. Is he a true face of a franchise like Richard Sherman might be? Can he rally a fan base like Watt, or Cam Newton? All of these factors come into consideration when factoring a player's salary at this caliber. And it might be difficult for Suh to deliver. -- Conor Orr

Torrey Smith

Smith is a very good player. He'll likely get paid like a great one. Receivers with speed often get overpaid when they hit the open market -- see Mike Wallace -- because they possess a very specific skill-set that front offices desire but struggle to attain. Smith is a good No. 2 or No. 1B receiver. He isn't disruptive enough on a consistent basis to be ranked with the top No. 1 wideouts. However, he might get paid like one of them soon. -- Kevin Patra

Byron Maxwell

As free agency's top-billed cornerback, Maxwell is bound to break the bank. Reports out of the NFL Scouting Combine suggested that the former Seahawks cover man wants $10 million annually. We tabbed Maxwell on a recent podcast as a potential free-agent disappointment if teams hope to make him their No. 1 corner. He thrived in a Seattle secondary stocked with Richard Sherman, Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor, but there is little proof he can do it alone for a less-talented team. -- Marc Sessler

Michael Crabtree

Crabtree was coming off the best stretch of his career, registering six of eight games with at least 90 yards to close out the 2012 season. Since tearing his Achilles' tendon in May of 2013, Crabtree has reached that 90-yard mark just twice in 24 games. Rumored to be battling yet another foot injury, Crabtree was among the NFL's slowest and most drop-prone starting wideouts. Similar to Hakeem Nicks a year ago, it takes a leap of faith to sign Crabtree with visions of a return to pre-injury form. -- Chris Wesseling

Nick Fairley

Fairley appeared to turn a corner last season, slimming down with the help of a personal trainer and putting up the best stretch of play in his enigmatic career before a Week 8 knee injury ended his season. Fairley just turned 27 and has all the potential in the world (teammate Ndamukong Suh has said Fairley has more raw talent than him). But any interested team has to be wary of Fairley's issues with inconsistent play and conditioning cropping up again after signing a fat second contract. Do you want to be the GM gambling that Fairley finally "gets it"? -- Dan Hanzus

Orlando Franklin

No one gets overpaid in free agency quite like the solid interior guard in a thin market. Like a lot of offensive players, Franklin has looked better while playing with Peyton Manning. -- Gregg Rosenthal

Torrey Smith

I love Torrey Smith for any offense, but unfortunately we live in a world in which a team's perception of a player financially directly correlates with fan expectation. Basically, someone is going to pay a good deal of money to get Smith because his breakneck speed opens up offenses. But, if he has a production equivalent of a Mike Wallace -- again, not Mike's fault he was expected to produce at a certain level -- then we might end up painting his deal with broad strokes and saying it was too much for a player like Smith. Make sense? -- Conor Orr

Terrance Knighton

You "win" free agency by signing guys like Knighton to a two-year, $4.5 million contract like John Elway did two years ago. You lose by signing Knighton -- a player with up-and-down motivation in his career -- to his next megadeal. -- Gregg Rosenthal

Jeremy Maclin

DeSean Jackson obliterated his career highs in receptions and receiving yards as Chip Kelly's "X" receiver in 2013. Once Jackson was discarded, Maclin assumed the "X" spot, promptly shattering his own career highs in 2014. In both cases, the numbers were inflated by Kelly's system. Maclin is one of the NFL's best No. 2 receivers, but he has never been reliable enough to be classified as a true No. 1. Because he's too often in the trainer's room, it took him six years to surpass 1,000 yards in a season. That said, he's sure to be recruited by Chiefs coach Andy Reid (his former coach) and Colts general manager Ryan Grigson (Eagles director of player personnel when Maclin was drafted) if he hits the open market. Buyer beware. -- Chris Wesseling

Buster Skrine

Reports indicate that Skrine could earn between $5.5 million and $7 million per year on the open market. Those figures could put Skrine in the Sean Smith-Dominique Rogers-Cromartie range. The 5-foot-9 Skrine had the luxury of playing alongside Joe Haden and still struggled at times. Pro Football Focus ranked him their 82nd corner out of 108 in 2014. Skrine is a solid No. 2 corner, but if a team pays him No. 1 money this year they will quickly regret it. -- Kevin Patra

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Looks like Torrey Smith is going to get paid twice as much as the others. ;)
 

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Free agency is fool's gold more often than most fans want to admit. We all get excited about shiny, new signings while suffering from collective amnesia.

Nope. Not me.

Well maybe when I was in high school.
 

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No doubt that Suh will be the most over paid. He will get top three QB money and will most likely lead the league in suspensions only.
 

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No doubt that Suh will be the most over paid. He will get top three QB money and will most likely lead the league in suspensions only.

However, if he goes to his next team and they are rated one of the top defensive lines in the NFL maybe it just underscores his actual talent!
 

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However, if he goes to his next team and they are rated one of the top defensive lines in the NFL maybe it just underscores his actual talent!

Not if they still finish under 500 and/ or he gets suspended for dirty play.;)
 

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Strange that they say that referencing O.Franklin instead of Iupati.

Iupati's worth depends on what team signs him. If he goes to a run first team, I can see him doing well. If he ends up with a passing team, he might struggle. Unless he improves his pass blocking.
 

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However, if he goes to his next team and they are rated one of the top defensive lines in the NFL maybe it just underscores his actual talent!
I'm thinking he chases the money and goes to the Raiders or some other franchise that is going no where. His actual talent and potential may not ever be fully realized
 

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I'm thinking he chases the money and goes to the Raiders or some other franchise that is going no where. His actual talent and potential may not ever be fully realized

And you hit the nail on the head LOL.
 

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Report: 49ers zeroing in on Torrey Smith

Updating an earlier item, ESPN's Adam Caplan believes the 49ers will sign free agent Torrey Smith "unless the money is too rich for them."
We suppose you could say that about any team in pursuit of a free agent, but it's clear the 49ers are zeroing in on the 26-year-old deep threat. Caplan is a very reliable reporter. Per Caplan, the Colts and Texans are also interested in Smith. With Randall Cobb off the market, Smith is Rotoworld's No. 2 free agent receiver. His arrival would ensure Michael Crabtree walks.

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49ers now think they’ll lose Gore
Posted by Mike Florio on March 8, 2015, 2:28 PM EDT
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/08/49ers-now-think-theyll-lose-gore/

Well, that changed quickly.

49ers owner Jed York recently said he thinks his team will find a way to bring back running back Frank Gore. Now, the 49ers are reportedly resigned to the fact that Gore will be gone.

Per Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, the 49ers believe they’ll be losing Gore to another team. It has prompted the 49ers to begin looking at the free-agency market for potential replacements.

In hindsight, it could be that the 49ers badly misread the market for Gore, who is drawing interest from at least the Eagles and Colts. As the market for running backs generally rebounds from a multi-year depression, that could make it much more expensive for San Francisco to bring in a Plan B.

Mike Iupati - G - 49ers

The St. Paul Pioneer Press reports the Vikings have reached out to free agent LG Mike Iupati.
The Vikings are dead-set on improving their offensive line, and Iupati is the biggest name available. He's reportedly seeking $8-9 million per year. Minnesota released LG Charles Johnson earlier this offseason and have no in-house replacement. Iupati could help stabilize to-date first-round bust LT Matt Kalil.
 

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Report: 49ers zeroing in on Torrey Smith

Updating an earlier item, ESPN's Adam Caplan believes the 49ers will sign free agent Torrey Smith "unless the money is too rich for them."
We suppose you could say that about any team in pursuit of a free agent, but it's clear the 49ers are zeroing in on the 26-year-old deep threat. Caplan is a very reliable reporter. Per Caplan, the Colts and Texans are also interested in Smith. With Randall Cobb off the market, Smith is Rotoworld's No. 2 free agent receiver. His arrival would ensure Michael Crabtree walks.

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49ers now think they’ll lose Gore
Posted by Mike Florio on March 8, 2015, 2:28 PM EDT
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/08/49ers-now-think-theyll-lose-gore/

Well, that changed quickly.

49ers owner Jed York recently said he thinks his team will find a way to bring back running back Frank Gore. Now, the 49ers are reportedly resigned to the fact that Gore will be gone.

Per Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, the 49ers believe they’ll be losing Gore to another team. It has prompted the 49ers to begin looking at the free-agency market for potential replacements.

In hindsight, it could be that the 49ers badly misread the market for Gore, who is drawing interest from at least the Eagles and Colts. As the market for running backs generally rebounds from a multi-year depression, that could make it much more expensive for San Francisco to bring in a Plan B.

Mike Iupati - G - 49ers

The St. Paul Pioneer Press reports the Vikings have reached out to free agent LG Mike Iupati.
The Vikings are dead-set on improving their offensive line, and Iupati is the biggest name available. He's reportedly seeking $8-9 million per year. Minnesota released LG Charles Johnson earlier this offseason and have no in-house replacement. Iupati could help stabilize to-date first-round bust LT Matt Kalil.


The 49'ers sign a FA WR every year...Why would this year be different?

I personally think March-April pre-draft peroid is a bargain time to sign a FA WR...I wish we would do it.
 

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Kenny Britt and William Hayes were probably the best free agent signings under Fisher. They were both on one year deals. We are better off going that route.
 

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However, if he goes to his next team and they are rated one of the top defensive lines in the NFL maybe it just underscores his actual talent!
I know it won't happen but could you imagine him on our defensive line? That would be worth the price of admission just to watch that combo. Donald and Suh in the middle alone would keep every QB awake at night.
 

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BTW - maybe the reason Suh is always so pissed is because they sent him to Detroit. Just sayin' I know I haven't been there but I haven't been to Siberia either. But how else could you explain this:

View: http://youtu.be/Ny4a-oxOndo
 

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Hawks CB Byron Maxwell Reportedly Will Sign With Eagles- $25mil Guaranteed

Sunday, March 8

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...um=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national

Jayson Braddock of SportsTalk 790 in Houston reported that the "Byron Maxwell deal is done. Guarantee came in higher after more discussion. Byron Maxwell will become an Eagle Tuesday w/ $25 mil guaranteed."

Earlier on Sunday, Yahoo Sports' Rand Getlin noted that "the Eagles are currently willing to pay CB Byron Maxwell north of $10M per year, per a source. Top of the market."

According to Braddock, "Deal also changed from 6 year $63 mil. It's now reportedly set to be a 5 year deal around $53 to 54 million."

Maxwell spoke about potentially joining the Eagles when asked during an appearance on ESPN on March 5, via Brandon Lee Gowton of Bleeding Green Nation:

"Definitely. They run the scheme that I’m talking about. Cover 3, man press. And they’re committed to winning, so definitely Philadelphia. If they was to come at me, I would definitely have to consider them."

On March 4, Around the NFL and Ian Rapoport of NFL.com first reported the Eagles' interest in Maxwell.

Few teams in the entire league need the help in the secondary more than the Eagles considering they finished 31st in the NFL against the pass in 2014. Teams repeatedly burned Philadelphia’s corners through the air, and the Eagles missed the playoffs as a result despite having a productive offense.

Maxwell was listed as the No. 9 player and top cornerback on NFL.com’s Gregg Rosenthal’s and Chris Wesseling’s list of the 101 top free agents available this offseason, so he would certainly help Philadelphia rebuild the secondary.
 

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Orlando Franklin - G - Broncos

The Denver Post reports free agent G/T Orlando Franklin's deal with San Diego will average $7.2 million per year and include $14 million guaranteed.

It sounds like a five-year, $36 million pact. The Franklin deal is one of several agreed to over the weekend that can't be finalized until Tuesday. Franklin is expected to play left guard in San Diego, upgrading on Chad Rinehart.
Related: Chargers
Source: Denver Post

http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football-player-news?rw=1

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Bill Polian on the crazy first days of free agency: "When teams pay "A" money for "B" and "C" Players".
 

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Rams just need to play free agency like they did last year.