Where is the attitude?

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When I think of Jeff Fisher teams - I think of attitude.

Right now... this team is not showing any attitude. No bravado. No moxie. No identity. No confidence.

So my question is; where did the attitude go? We had mojo last year... this year - none!

What's up with that?

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That's a stark contrast to the attitude we apparently exhibited week one though. I seem to remember people saying we had resolve, fight, a never say die attitude, etc. In a loss, we now have none of that? What if we win Thursday, will we get it back? Nothing against you, Danielson, but I think a loss comes with far too many permanent condemnations from the fan base. Line up Chris Long, Laurinaitis, Finnegan, Quinn, McDonald, Trumaine, Jenkins, and tell me you'd be able to say to them, with a straight face, "You guys have no bravado."
 

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It's still early in the season. This is a very young team. Keep in mind the rookies from last year that played great are 2nd year players. We're the youngest team in the NFL DON'T overlook that. I still think we bounce back but to say we're a true contender to go deep into the playoffs with a young team that we have is a stretch
 

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That's a stark contrast to the attitude we apparently exhibited week one though. I seem to remember people saying we had resolve, fight, a never say die attitude, etc. In a loss, we now have none of that? What if we win Thursday, will we get it back? Nothing against you, Danielson, but I think a loss comes with far too many permanent condemnations from the fan base. Line up Chris Long, Laurinaitis, Finnegan, Quinn, McDonald, Trumaine, Jenkins, and tell me you'd be able to say to them, with a straight face, "You guys have no bravado."

Okay, week one. Week 3 is in the books. :cool:

I am suggesting this team has clearly has lost it's identity from the week one win. We aren't as fierce or as defined as I'd expect, particularly on D.

What is the identity of this team?
 

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That's a stark contrast to the attitude we apparently exhibited week one though. I seem to remember people saying we had resolve, fight, a never say die attitude, etc. In a loss, we now have none of that? What if we win Thursday, will we get it back? Nothing against you, Danielson, but I think a loss comes with far too many permanent condemnations from the fan base. Line up Chris Long, Laurinaitis, Finnegan, Quinn, McDonald, Trumaine, Jenkins, and tell me you'd be able to say to them, with a straight face, "You guys have no bravado."

Okay, week one. Week 3 is in the books. :cool:

I am suggesting this team has clearly has lost it's identity from the week one win. We aren't as fierce or as defined as I'd expect, particularly on D.

What is the identity of this team?
I dunno. Young?
 

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That's a stark contrast to the attitude we apparently exhibited week one though. I seem to remember people saying we had resolve, fight, a never say die attitude, etc. In a loss, we now have none of that? What if we win Thursday, will we get it back? Nothing against you, Danielson, but I think a loss comes with far too many permanent condemnations from the fan base. Line up Chris Long, Laurinaitis, Finnegan, Quinn, McDonald, Trumaine, Jenkins, and tell me you'd be able to say to them, with a straight face, "You guys have no bravado."

Okay, week one. Week 3 is in the books. :cool:

I am suggesting this team has clearly has lost it's identity from the week one win. We aren't as fierce or as defined as I'd expect, particularly on D.

What is the identity of this team?
I dunno. Young?

Okay, good answer.

I would hope the HC sets the tone and the attitude.

I'm not saying the season is over. Just saying; it's time to establish the attitude.
 

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The attitude left with Jo-lonn Dunbar.

You're not the first to suggest that. But I think it's WRONG when we've got three $10M plus guys on this defense.

:grr:
 

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CGI_Ram said:
X said:
CGI_Ram said:
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That's a stark contrast to the attitude we apparently exhibited week one though. I seem to remember people saying we had resolve, fight, a never say die attitude, etc. In a loss, we now have none of that? What if we win Thursday, will we get it back? Nothing against you, Danielson, but I think a loss comes with far too many permanent condemnations from the fan base. Line up Chris Long, Laurinaitis, Finnegan, Quinn, McDonald, Trumaine, Jenkins, and tell me you'd be able to say to them, with a straight face, "You guys have no bravado."

Okay, week one. Week 3 is in the books. :cool:

I am suggesting this team has clearly has lost it's identity from the week one win. We aren't as fierce or as defined as I'd expect, particularly on D.

What is the identity of this team?
I dunno. Young?

Okay, good answer.

I would hope the HC sets the tone and the attitude.

I'm not saying the season is over. Just saying; it's time to establish the attitude.
He did set the attitude last year. Didn't he? Wasn't that what we were all saying? "Look at what a change in head coaches can do! This team has attitude!" Now they don't? They got their asses kicked. It happens. If they string a few of those together in a row, then there's cause for concern. Right now I'm just resolved to the idea that they got rolled. And like Bradford said ... maybe that's what they needed. Sometimes you do need to get punched in the mouth to realize that you're not the badass of the block anymore. What you do AFTER that is what defines you as a person (and/or team).
 

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That's a stark contrast to the attitude we apparently exhibited week one though. I seem to remember people saying we had resolve, fight, a never say die attitude, etc. In a loss, we now have none of that? What if we win Thursday, will we get it back? Nothing against you, Danielson, but I think a loss comes with far too many permanent condemnations from the fan base. Line up Chris Long, Laurinaitis, Finnegan, Quinn, McDonald, Trumaine, Jenkins, and tell me you'd be able to say to them, with a straight face, "You guys have no bravado."

Okay, week one. Week 3 is in the books. :cool:

I am suggesting this team has clearly has lost it's identity from the week one win. We aren't as fierce or as defined as I'd expect, particularly on D.

What is the identity of this team?
I dunno. Young?

Okay, good answer.

I would hope the HC sets the tone and the attitude.

I'm not saying the season is over. Just saying; it's time to establish the attitude.
He did set the attitude last year. Didn't he? Wasn't that what we were all saying? "Look at what a change in head coaches can do! This team has attitude!" Now they don't? They got their asses kicked. It happens. If they string a few of those together in a row, then there's cause for concern. Right now I'm just resolved to the idea that they got rolled. And like Bradford said ... maybe that's what they needed. Sometimes you do need to get punched in the mouth to realize that you're not the badass of the block anymore. What you do AFTER that is what defines you as a person (and/or team).

Fair enough.

He did set the attitude last year.

It's time to reset that attitude this year. But... shouldn't require reset, IMO. It should be a foundation now.

But I'll agree with this; What you do AFTER that is what defines you as a person (and/or team).
 

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I don't know. I saw so much that was wrong, hard to say where to start.

McDonald looked better in run defense and firey but one play defines what so many have been saying. He was playing 15 yds off the line and before the ball is snapped starts back pedaling while the TE doesn't get a chuck from the LB and runs into his zone for a 15 yd completion and then McDonald comes up to make the stop.

We're not competing for the ball. It should be just as much ours while it is in the air. Heck, CBs are giving MORE than 10 yd cushions.
 

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Our defense would be just fine if we didn't give 10 yard cushions, imo. Play more man.
 

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X said:
That's a stark contrast to the attitude we apparently exhibited week one though. I seem to remember people saying we had resolve, fight, a never say die attitude, etc. In a loss, we now have none of that? What if we win Thursday, will we get it back? Nothing against you, Danielson, but I think a loss comes with far too many permanent condemnations from the fan base. Line up Chris Long, Laurinaitis, Finnegan, Quinn, McDonald, Trumaine, Jenkins, and tell me you'd be able to say to them, with a straight face, "You guys have no bravado."

Line them up and I'd have more words than that for them.
 

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That's a stark contrast to the attitude we apparently exhibited week one though. I seem to remember people saying we had resolve, fight, a never say die attitude, etc. In a loss, we now have none of that? What if we win Thursday, will we get it back? Nothing against you, Danielson, but I think a loss comes with far too many permanent condemnations from the fan base. Line up Chris Long, Laurinaitis, Finnegan, Quinn, McDonald, Trumaine, Jenkins, and tell me you'd be able to say to them, with a straight face, "You guys have no bravado."

Line them up and I'd have more words than that for them.
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That's a stark contrast to the attitude we apparently exhibited week one though. I seem to remember people saying we had resolve, fight, a never say die attitude, etc. In a loss, we now have none of that? What if we win Thursday, will we get it back? Nothing against you, Danielson, but I think a loss comes with far too many permanent condemnations from the fan base. Line up Chris Long, Laurinaitis, Finnegan, Quinn, McDonald, Trumaine, Jenkins, and tell me you'd be able to say to them, with a straight face, "You guys have no bravado."

Okay, week one. Week 3 is in the books. :cool:

I am suggesting this team has clearly has lost it's identity from the week one win. We aren't as fierce or as defined as I'd expect, particularly on D.

What is the identity of this team?
I dunno. Young?

Okay, good answer.

I would hope the HC sets the tone and the attitude.

I'm not saying the season is over. Just saying; it's time to establish the attitude.
He did set the attitude last year. Didn't he? Wasn't that what we were all saying? "Look at what a change in head coaches can do! This team has attitude!" Now they don't? They got their asses kicked. It happens. If they string a few of those together in a row, then there's cause for concern. Right now I'm just resolved to the idea that they got rolled. And like Bradford said ... maybe that's what they needed. Sometimes you do need to get punched in the mouth to realize that you're not the badass of the block anymore. What you do AFTER that is what defines you as a person (and/or team).


I'm sorry X but we were never bad asses to begin with. I was hoping this year would be the year. :|

But the season isn't over yet. There's still time, but it's not looking good so far.
 

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Our defense would be just fine if we didn't give 10 yard cushions, imo. Play more man.

Agree, what they are predominantly doing isn't working so why not mix in some more man. I think they got the talent, why not.

Crossing routes are killing us in front of the safeties because the safeties are so deep. LBs are always in tow by as much as 5 yds.

This pass d looks as bad as Spags immobile bowling pins zone days.

Hard to watch and understand why after last year.
 

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The reality is that all 3 teams that they faced punched them in the mouth and they were lucky to pull 1win out. A win over San Fran puts them at 2-0 in our division and a huge boost to the confidence. The coaches have to show a little flexibility and confidence in theses players. They are playing not to lose right from the start.
 

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That's a stark contrast to the attitude we apparently exhibited week one though. I seem to remember people saying we had resolve, fight, a never say die attitude, etc. In a loss, we now have none of that? What if we win Thursday, will we get it back? Nothing against you, Danielson, but I think a loss comes with far too many permanent condemnations from the fan base. Line up Chris Long, Laurinaitis, Finnegan, Quinn, McDonald, Trumaine, Jenkins, and tell me you'd be able to say to them, with a straight face, "You guys have no bravado."

Okay, week one. Week 3 is in the books. :cool:

I am suggesting this team has clearly has lost it's identity from the week one win. We aren't as fierce or as defined as I'd expect, particularly on D.

What is the identity of this team?
I dunno. Young?

Okay, good answer.

I would hope the HC sets the tone and the attitude.

I'm not saying the season is over. Just saying; it's time to establish the attitude.
He did set the attitude last year. Didn't he? Wasn't that what we were all saying? "Look at what a change in head coaches can do! This team has attitude!" Now they don't? They got their asses kicked. It happens. If they string a few of those together in a row, then there's cause for concern. Right now I'm just resolved to the idea that they got rolled. And like Bradford said ... maybe that's what they needed. Sometimes you do need to get punched in the mouth to realize that you're not the badass of the block anymore. What you do AFTER that is what defines you as a person (and/or team).

Waaaait a minute. Lets not pretend that the Rams didn't get their stool pushed in last week against Atlanta. One decent quarter of football does not a game make. They were asleep at the wheel for most of the opener too. So, by my math, the Rams have played a total of maybe 3 good quarters of football in 3 weeks. That's being generous. You can put as much lipstick on them as you want, but they are still a pig right now. Lets hope they can start to bring home the bacon instead of BEING the meal.
 

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X said:
That's a stark contrast to the attitude we apparently exhibited week one though. I seem to remember people saying we had resolve, fight, a never say die attitude, etc. In a loss, we now have none of that? What if we win Thursday, will we get it back? Nothing against you, Danielson, but I think a loss comes with far too many permanent condemnations from the fan base. Line up Chris Long, Laurinaitis, Finnegan, Quinn, McDonald, Trumaine, Jenkins, and tell me you'd be able to say to them, with a straight face, "You guys have no bravado."


I think with how young our players are, that playing with the crowd behind them is big