What Williams Will Bring To Rams' Defense

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By Nick Wagoner and Mike Triplett | ESPN.com
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/5500/what-williams-will-bring-to-rams-defense



ST. LOUIS -- The St. Louis Rams and Gregg Williams have agreed to a deal to make Williams the team's defensive coordinator.

It's a move two years in the making after Williams originally accepted the same role in 2012 but never did the job after serving a suspension for his role in the bounty scandal with the New Orleans Saints.

Williams served as a defensive consultant for the Tennessee Titans in 2013 but technically hasn't been a defensive coordinator for a game since his time in New Orleans.

There will be no sweeping changes in terms of the general defensive philosophy but Williams will certainly add his own flavor. To get a handle on how we got here and what Williams brings to the table, ESPN Rams reporter Nick Wagoner and ESPN Saints reporter Mike Triplett discussed the move.

Wagoner: Mike, it's been a long, strange trip to get to this point where Jeff Fisher and Gregg Williams can finally reunite. You were there during the ups and downs of Williams' time in New Orleans. First, what are some of the things he can bring to the table from solely a coaching perspective?


Kirby Lee/USA TODAY SportsGregg Williams, who served as a defensive consultant in Tennessee in 2013, will bring an aggressive style of play to the Rams.

Triplett: Williams made a huge impact on the Saints -- especially in his first year in 2009. For one thing, he was a creative and versatile coordinator who was great at tailoring his defense around players' individual strengths. One example that stands out most was the way he made safety Roman Harper into a two-time Pro Bowler by using him as a frequent blitzer and pseudo-linebacker. Williams would also mix and match between a 4-3 and 3-4. His most famous example was the Super Bowl win over Indianapolis and Peyton Manning when he had different plans for the first half, the third quarter and the fourth quarter.

What stood out even more was the way Williams lit a fire under his players as a passionate leader and motivator. And he noticeably instilled confidence in them. He brought a lot of the same qualities in his first season that we talked about this past year with Rob Ryan. Obviously you can't ignore the bounty scandal, though, when describing those traits because Williams took it to such extremes.

Do you think it was hard for Fisher to make this move with the bounty scandal still so fresh in Williams' past?

Wagoner: In all honesty, I was under the impression that this ship had sailed. Fisher was hesitant to even talk about Williams during the week leading up to the Titans game this season and he fired Williams' son, Blake. But apparently their friendship survived all of those things or they were at least able to reconcile enough to give it another go. When Williams first got suspended, Fisher seemed to be a bit taken aback by it. I wondered if Williams didn't provide all of the information. It put the Rams in something of a difficult spot that first season. The timing of all this seems a bit strange because Williams shook loose from Tennessee a while ago. I wonder how much time has been spent working out the details. At the end of the day, this was clearly what Fisher wanted all along so perhaps now the Rams can finally have some stability at defensive coordinator.

You mentioned the bounty scandal. One thing that raises a red flag with this hire is the lack of discipline the Rams had in 2013. They drew a lot of silly penalties. That's always been a part of Fisher teams and it doesn't seem Williams' style will do much to harness that. What were your impressions of his ability to walk the line between instilling discipline in his players while not taking away their edge?

Triplett: I don't ever remember penalties being a big problem with the Saints. In fact, many people pointed out during the bounty debate that the Saints had one of the league's least-penalized defenses during Williams' tenure. But I still think that's probably a fair concern since I wouldn't exactly characterize Williams as "disciplined." He wants to create big plays, and he blitzed a ton while he was in New Orleans. And sometimes that gambling nature led to breakdowns and big plays for the offense. It worked wonders in 2009, when the Saints led the NFL in combined turnovers in the regular season and postseason. But they had playoff blowups at Seattle and San Francisco the next two years.

The same goes for big hits, obviously. Williams saw the value in what he always called "remember me" shots, and sometimes that led to unnecessary roughness penalties. But it was never a case of the Saints playing "dirty" on defense or taking cheap shots to hurt guys. The philosophy was to be aggressive as possible within the rules (though the reward program was where they went too far).

You'll see that philosophy on display right away during summer practices. The defensive guys will annoy the offense by constantly swatting at the ball and trying to pry it loose and diving on every ball that hits the turf. And you'll hear Williams shouting often. The energy level will be unmistakable.

Wagoner: It should be a good thing for the Rams to have some stability at the position, finally. One more thing while I've still got you. One area that drove Rams fans nuts this year was a commitment to a lot of "off" coverage with corners playing soft zones. It would seem Williams doesn't abide by that approach. Can you shed some light on his approach to coverage schemes and how it might alter the type of players for the secondary the Rams will be looking for this offseason?

Triplett: You're right. His corners played a ton of man-to-man coverage in New Orleans -- often times pressing -- while doing a lot of blitzing. But I'm not sure that's always his approach. It's just how he decided to do things in New Orleans since he trusted the defensive backs' ability to cover more than the front four's ability to generate pressure without blitzing.

When he was here, he had corners like Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter and safeties like Darren Sharper and Malcolm Jenkins, who all played very well during those years. Greer and Porter weren't very big or physical, so he doesn't necessarily require a big, physical corner. But he'd obviously like to find guys he can trust in man coverage.

Wagoner: There's no doubting the move makes sense for the Rams. Given the caliber of defenses the Rams face in the NFC West division, Williams' hire should help nudge them toward the elite status necessary to close the gap on Seattle, San Francisco and Arizona.
 

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I love this move!

Nice to see the Rams getting media respect.
 

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Having a coach who can recognize and tailor a system to players strengths is key, because the Rams have a bunch of individual talent on D. If Williams can get the group to buy in and gel while making things fit personal well, look out.
His Ds in New Orleans were dirty, penalized or not. Fishers' teams are always chippy....seems like a good match. Just eliminate the flags.
 

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I do too. I want press coverage like Seattle and bring the kitchen sink. I want the sack record baby!
 

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Having a coach who can recognize and tailor a system to players strengths is key, because the Rams have a bunch of individual talent on D. If Williams can get the group to buy in and gel while making things fit personal well, look out.
His Ds in New Orleans were dirty, penalized or not. Fishers' teams are always chippy....seems like a good match. Just eliminate the flags.

Well said, fearsome. It feels like a great fit.

I love his track record, and particularly his CREATIVITY! That's what successful coaches have! The game is ever changing. From quarter to quarter. Week to week.
 

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Shit eating grin on Haile's face.... because of Williams' hiring. :cheese:
 

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I'm not a fan.

I cannot get on board with a guy who was advocating the things that he did.
 

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I'm not a fan.

I cannot get on board with a guy who was advocating the things that he did.
That's fair. It's cool that you can stand up for your convictions.
 

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That's fair. It's cool that you can stand up for your convictions.

I have nothing against his schemes, or his designs.

I just cannot like a guy who pushes his players to injure other guys. That audio tape should have got him kicked out of the NFL for good.

Spygate and Bountygate are tainting Goodells term and he is too egotistical to get it because the NFL is so popular.
 

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I have nothing against his schemes, or his designs.

I just cannot like a guy who pushes his players to injure other guys. That audio tape should have got him kicked out of the NFL for good.

Spygate and Bountygate are tainting Goodells term and he is too egotistical to get it because the NFL is so popular.
Yeah, I know what you meant. It's a difficult subject to debate, because there's really no middle ground.
You either are appalled, or you don't give a shit.
 

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Personally, I think it was a little blown out of proportion, but I don't/won't advocate what he did. I think Coach Schwartz' whole team were cheap shot artists, and if that happens here with Williams, I will not be proud to be a Rams fan. It is NOT my philosophy. I'm on record for saying that we needed a big-time DC for a couple years now, and he is that, IMO.

I will be in his corner now that he is a Ram, and hope that he has learned from the poor choices that he paid for. I hope, and believe that he will help our defense to be more explosive.
 

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Yes it is a difficult thing to talk about and debate. As that whole thing unfolded and so many people were saying it happens all the time in every locker room. I would have been better with it if players had unilaterally supported it, but the majority were on record saying it wasn't cool and they didn't like the idea of it.

So it was a combination of my compass and a lot of players weighing in with theirs.
 

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I think this move is something Fisher probably wanted last year and had to take a back seat because of the PR mess.

I don't know what he was "advocating" other than a bad ass defense who are a bunch of grown men playing football. I don't expect them to try to hurt someone intentionally but the whole BS deal in NO was nothing more than making a show for the PC world out there.

Its a man's game it is brutal and I love that part of the game.
 

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Yes it is a difficult thing to talk about and debate. As that whole thing unfolded and so many people were saying it happens all the time in every locker room. [hl]I would have been better with it if players had unilaterally supported it[/hl], but the majority were on record saying it wasn't cool and they didn't like the idea of it.

So it was a combination of my compass and a lot of players weighing in with theirs.

But you can see how players would not want to do that, or admit to it. I've seen other coaches at all levels do, or implement some form of what he did. It sucks, and it's not right.
 

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When the investigation was going on there was no one in any locker room going to step up and say oh yeah we do that all the time. Same thing with the hazing BS going on in Miami this year.
 

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But you can see how players would not want to do that, or admit to it. I've seen other coaches at all levels do, or implement some form of what he did. It sucks, and it's not right.

Didn't they pretty much confirm that over half of the teams in the league had a similar program in place, then stop digging after they didn't like what they were finding?
 

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Didn't they pretty much confirm that over half of the teams in the league had a similar program in place, then stop digging after they didn't like what they were finding?
I can't confirm that, but wouldn't be surprised. Williams was the one that got punched in the dick though.