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What if we sign Richie and Saffold?

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by RamsOfCastamere, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. fearsomefour Well-Known Member

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    All very good points. I certainly hope the Rams consider it. If the Rams took the money freed up by Oline moves (Saffold $1.4, Williams $900k, Dahl $4M, Wells $4.5M, $10.8M) to address FA issues and can get a guy like Incognito for, say, 2 years $6-7M that is a steal to me. Even paying him what Dahl is making is a steal in that it is an upgrade for the same money. Conditions could be put on the deal for interactions with the press and more importantly social media. Resigning Barnes (fairly minimal increase) and this move would settle quite a bit on the line. Going into the draft with Long/Incognito/Barnes/..../Barksdale takes a lot of the pressue off, although I would still be drafting a T with that first pick.
    Being able to match up physcially inside vs. out NFC West rivals is very important and one of the reasons I am not thrilled with the idea of going into the season with multiple rookies playing on the line. I am all for this move. Problem is, there are other teams with more money who have interior line issues. Put the conditions on the contract and make it 100% guarenteed and go after immediatly in FA, may be be the only chance.
    Do it!!
     
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  2. iced Well-Known Member

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    Hell - NO to incognito....

    Maddeningly inconsistent - he'll make 1 good play then have like 4 bad ones
     
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  3. Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    ok LET'S SIGN MARTIN TOO
     
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  4. moklerman Warner-phile

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    Consistency is a good point but I only really remember what he did as a Ram(on a very bad team with Spagnuolo and Co.). What's he been doing on the field since then? Seems like he was playing better in Miami.
     
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  5. laramsoriginal Well-Known Member

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    Yes bring Martin to be a tackling dummy
     
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  6. iced Well-Known Member

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    And I remember him being the biggest liability on the line when he was here (And I'm talking about his Blocking, not his penalties).

    I've seen enough from cognito
     
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  7. fearsomefour Well-Known Member

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    Its a package deal....also includes a reality show.
     
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  8. Sum1 Well-Known Member

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    I don't care about the Jonathon Martin crap at all. I am vilifying Incognito for his entire body of classlessness.

    laramsorignial...those same things were said when Incognito was waived by the Rams 4 years ago. He still hasn't matured. In 2012 he essentially sexually assaulted a woman on a golf course. An employee of mine is friends with some ex-Rams and has told me stories about being out with Incognito in which he starts fights and mistreats people.

    Rams need o-line help...not sure why Incognito is the only means in some eyes. So many other options that can be had. Believe it or not there has ALWAYS been better guards in the NFL during Incognitos career.
     
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  9. laramsoriginal Well-Known Member

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    You do realize he made the pro bowl in 2012? Richie is a better player now than he was with the rams. Besides, if the rams can fill the LG spot for cheap with Richie. ..I am all for it
     
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  10. Sum1 Well-Known Member

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    moklerman...I disagree that Vick was any more or less "poisonous". Both of these stories have gotten about the same coverage and Incognito has a reputation around the league, regardless of what the media view is.
     
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  11. laramsoriginal Well-Known Member

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    Because the rams don't have the cap space to sign anyone to fill the massive holes in the interior of the OL. If the rams can get a good OG for cheap money, lets do it
     
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  12. Ramrasta The Knight Owl

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    Does nobody else remember him as a Ram? I don't remember him killing it as a G as much as drawing consistent, drive-killing penalties with his anger issues and getting benched in games...
     
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  13. iced Well-Known Member

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    Does nothing for me... He's mostly been bad but had one good year...he's like Derek Anderson..He made the pro bowl in 2007 but no one's beating down his door now are they?
     
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  14. Sum1 Well-Known Member

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    According to Kevin Demoff they have plenty of cap space. And there is also the draft, which teams tend to get their best long term talent from anyway.
     
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  15. moklerman Warner-phile

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    With what we know right now? I hope you're not serious.
     
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  16. moklerman Warner-phile

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    I'll grant you that it might be a fluke but I don't know that that's the case. If he's progressively improving to get to the point where he's at a pro-bowl level then I think he'd be worth looking at. Derek Anderson's career is pretty much the reverse. He had a fluke year his first year starting and has subsequently earned the reputation he now has by playing pretty poorly for 6+ years.
     
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  17. iced Well-Known Member

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    I think Manti Te'o's girlfriend is more realistic than incognito as a pro bowler
     
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  18. Sum1 Well-Known Member

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    Let's go over Mr. Incognito's rap-sheet, shall we?

    -In 2007 Incognito played and started at right guard for four games after being inactive for the first four weeks of the season. In early November, Incognito suffered a knee injury that forced him to miss the remainder of season. However, while rehabilitating, it was later revealed that he had been partying nightly.

    -Incognito started all nine games in which he played for the Rams in 2009. On December 13, during the first half of a 47-7 loss to the Titans, Incognito drew two 15-yard penalties for headbutting Titans players. Head coach Steve Spanoulo benched him for the second half, and the two got into a heated confrontation on the sidelines. It was the second time Incognito had been benched for losing his composure; he'd been pulled from the season opener against Seattle for two personal fouls. However, the Titans incident was the last straw; the Rams waived him two days after the game. In 2013, former Rams general manager Billy Devaney told ESPN that Spagnuolo had given Incognito numerous chances to clean up his act, and had put him on notice that the Rams would cut ties with him if he couldn't control his anger.

    -In four years with the Rams from 2006 to 2009, Incognito drew 38 penalties, including seven unnecessary roughness calls, more than any other player during that span.

    -In 2009 Incognito was voted as the NFL's dirtiest player. Players claim Richie had gouged eyes, punched and kicked players, and made illegal tackles frequently.

    -During the Dolphins' annual celebrity golf tournament a drunken Incognito harassed a female volunteer at the club. He rubbed her private parts with a golf club, pressed his private parts against her buttocks and dumped water in her face. The matter was referred to Dolphins security. Although former Dolphins wide receiver Nat Moore apologized to her, the volunteer filed a police report after Incognito didn't personally apologize; the matter was later settled after she signed a confidentiality agreement. This incident didn't come to public light until November 2013. (this is the older more mature Incognito evidently).

    -On November 4, 2013, the Dolphins suspended Incognito indefinitely for alleged misconduct related to the treatment of teammate Jonathan Martin, who left the team a week earlier to receive help for emotional issues. Incognito's conduct was said to be detrimental to the team. (Granted, the texts do paint a picture of a friendship, I must say that nothing in any of Incognito's text painted a picture of a classy individual...but I guess you'd have to ask the hookers their thoughts)

    -How about the fight he had before training camp? (again, this is the older more mature Incognito)
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp...-miami-dolphins-was-altercation-training-camp


    Let's not forget how he mocked RAMS FANS while he was playing for THE RAMS....
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    Or his tirade in a bar in which he frequently drops the N-bomb... http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_pfevh31r/
     
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  19. Flipper_336 Well-Known Member

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    That's true. We all know that being voted to the Pro Bowl is a 100% accurate reflection of a player's ability.
     
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  20. iced Well-Known Member

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    Yet, Riley cooper gets more crap for saying the N word once..
     
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