What Bills fans are saying before the game

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I like Lance and all, but man is that bar low. Gotta be someone higher ranked though.
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Well, the argument can be made for him being the best Rams TE ever just based on his stats as I type this. I think he will statistically be the best by the time his Rams career is over.

Speaks a lot to the quality of the position for the Rams over the years.

That said, Higbee and Hemmingway will both be better by the end of their careers. Multiple pro bowls for each.

 

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Honestly a few more touchdowns and I don't see anybody really disagreeing he's the best Rams TE of all time outside of Jared Cook ofc! :D
 

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Rams now by 2.5...O/U 39.5...Toss up according to Vegas...I would agree...
 

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Honestly a few more touchdowns and I don't see anybody really disagreeing he's the best Rams TE of all time outside of Jared Cook ofc! :D
er joe klopenstien called and wants his label of best all times rams TE back
 

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They've had it worse. Living in Buffalo my whole life, that team is the reason they drink so much. No playoffs since 1999.

I thought they drank because of the winters.



I suspect at some point Case gets hurt, Goff goes in and shows he can do things that Case can't, and Keenum is Gehriged.

Never cared for Cooks demeanor when things weren't going well, but he could be a great TE if he would play to his potential. I was so happy to see him leave. I hate waiting on players potential, and watching them kill drives repeatedly.
 

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This game will come down to who can run the ball IMO. Neither QB is a world beater. I would be so much more confident if Gurley was having success running the ball already but he hasn't and the Bills have two guys that have, Taylor and McCoy.

Throw in that Gob will be facing speed rushes and likely blitzes (I'd go heavy with blitzes right at him) and it won't be good for Keenum.

I don't like this matchup for the Rams. I hope I am wrong but it feels like a loss to me.
 

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This game will come down to who can run the ball IMO. Neither QB is a world beater. I would be so much more confident if Gurley was having success running the ball already but he hasn't and the Bills have two guys that have, Taylor and McCoy.

Throw in that Gob will be facing speed rushes and likely blitzes (I'd go heavy with blitzes right at him) and it won't be good for Keenum.

I don't like this matchup for the Rams. I hope I am wrong but it feels like a loss to me.

I'd do the opposite of this. Blitzes are picked up inside-out. You want to target vulnerabilities inside. Wichmann has been the guy struggling with blitz recognition. If I'm Buffalo, I'm blitzing the right side of the OL and trying to isolate Robinson against my best edge rusher.

I also don't think this comes down to who can run the ball. We've believed that in every game this year. It was only true in the SF game. I think it comes down to turnovers and mistakes. We need to take advantage of our scoring opportunities and win the turnover battle.
 

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I'd do the opposite of this. Blitzes are picked up inside-out. You want to target vulnerabilities inside. Wichmann has been the guy struggling with blitz recognition. If I'm Buffalo, I'm blitzing the right side of the OL and trying to isolate Robinson against my best edge rusher.

I also don't think this comes down to who can run the ball. We've believed that in every game this year. It was only true in the SF game. I think it comes down to turnovers and mistakes. We need to take advantage of our scoring opportunities and win the turnover battle.


Seattle had a one dimensional running game and a bad OLine. Tampa had Winston, but their best back was out and an average OLine. Arizona has a below average line but a good back. None of those teams have an attack like McCoy, Taylor and a good run blocking line. The Bills ability to run is much better plus McCoy likes to get outside, which has been a problem for the Rams in the past.
 

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The Rams caused 5 turnovers and only scored 17 points last week. That does not speak well of the offense if they don't capitalize on turnovers.
 

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The Rams caused 5 turnovers and only scored 17 points last week. That does not speak well of the offense if they don't capitalize on turnovers.

One of them was with less than two minutes to go and the Rams just wanted the cards to use their timeouts. Another was the last play of the game. So in reality they had three turnovers to work with.

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My biggest problem with Kendricks has been a problem with all of our receivers the last several years it seems and that's just blatant drops. Him being wide open and a lob pass just literally bouncing off his hands uncontested type stuff. If you're playing in the NFL that shouldn't happen. But I've always liked him as a blocker and he is decent in the passing game. So far this year he's caught everything thrown at him and is on pace for a career year. It seems like this year all of our receivers are catching the ball well which helps a ton. Can't remember how many times one of our receivers kill a drive on a dropped ball the last several years. Nothing is more maddening to me.
 

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http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/10/06/...nce-return-andrew-luck-odell-beckham-problems

Buffalo at Los Angeles

Rams: This defense has been great in straight zone coverage, perhaps even more on the back end than along its dynamic front line.

Bills: Through two games, it’s clear that new offensive coordinator Anthony Lynn is comfortable using overloaded formations to the short side of the field. In other words, when the ball is on a hashmark, Lynn will put most of his receivers and tight ends (and sometimes an offset fullback) to that same side, even though there’s less field available.

It’s the opposite of how teams typically line up. The Bills were a little predictable out of these looks in Lynn’s OC debut against Arizona. (That may have contributed to Tyrann Mathieu’s forced fumble play.) But at New England they were much more diverse and, for the most part, successful.

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LOS ANGELES (-3) over Buffalo

If you missed Rex Ryan giving the most honest look at his football philosophy this week, it’s worth exploring. In 2014, Ryan said that Aaron Donald couldn’t hold Sheldon Richardson’s jock. Those words are pretty funny now, because while Richardson is a solid player, Donald is one of the five best defenders in the NFL.

He also says he remembers the comments. Ryan explained it thusly: “One of our coaches had said, ‘This guy can’t hold his jock.’ So I go ahead and say it — I never even saw him play, but I knew he was a rookie, so rookies shouldn’t go to the Pro Bowl. So, anyway, after I’ve seen this kid play, I’m like, ‘Oh boy!’”

The comment itself was outrageous; that it came from someone who now admits he had no first-hand knowledge makes it almost unbelievable. I love Ryan. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: He’s going to be great on TV.

Anyway, this is going to be an exciting game. The Rams are brilliant at making every team they face seem as boring as they are. The Bills are truly already as boring as the Rams, so the only option is to cancel each other out and play a truly fun game. The Rams will win because they’re at home. And Rex Ryan will see Aaron Donald play and once again get to say “Oh boy!”
 

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The Rams caused 5 turnovers and only scored 17 points last week. That does not speak well of the offense if they don't capitalize on turnovers.

None of the turnovers led to points if I recall correctly. The O got the points by themselves on different drives.

If they had just gotten 2 FG's off the 5 TO's the game isn't all that close.

It's great that they took away 5 opportunities from AZ but you are on the money they have to convert them to some points.
 

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There all big games, but why the Rams game is particularly important

We all know that every game is a big game in the NFL. Every loss is an opportunity lost, an opportunity to build a lead in your division and conference. That's what was so difficult about both of the Bills losses this season.

So, of course, the Rams game is a big game. A chance to get above .500, keep pace with or catch the Pats, all of that.

I find myself thinking this week that it'a big game in a different sense, too. Coming into this season, the Bills looked like they were in position to take the next step, the step out of the pack of .500 teams and move up into teams that look like serious playoff contenders. We didn't know if they could be that team, but this was the first season in a long time where you could suggest with a straight face and without sounding like a total homer that the Bills would be one of those teams.

Then they fell down for the first two weeks and then they picked themselves up. It's kind of like the season starts over today, 12 games for the Bills to prove they're one of those teams.

What makes those teams stand out is that they win tough games on the road. They don't win them all, because it's hard to win on the road against other playoff-caliber teams. But they win against the bad teams on the road, and they win against the .500 teams that, like themselves, are trying to pull themselves up into the upper echelon.

The Rams game is one of those games. No one's quite sure yet what the Rams are - contenders or pretenders, but it's clear they are challenging to move up. This is the kind of game that good teams win their share of on the road. It's like the Ravens game. If you want to make your mark, if you want the rest of the football world to take notice, you win games like this.

Big game, for a lot of reasons.
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Rams are pretenders because their offense and O line are not good. Keenum should have a tough day Sunday.
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It's a big game for Rex. He has not shown the ability to keep his teams Focused over long stretches of success. Now maybe he just hasn't had the talent, but the stats show...Rex hasn't had a 3 or More Game Winning Streak since 2011. That is something I think needs to change and it needs to start this week if Buffalo is going to get to 10-6. I'm starting to think a 10-6 does NOT make the Playoffs this season so 11-5 might have to be the goal.
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I think both teams have been pretending, smoke and mirrors on offense right now.
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Yep. They're built to compete with Seattle and Arizona, but they forgot about the other 10 out of division games. This might change if Goff ever gets it together, though.
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That may be true; time will tell. But they're 3-1 with a defense that is keeping them in games. They are almost a lock to go 7-9, which puts them in the big pack of mediocre teams that the Bills want to get out of. That's the kind of opponent I'm talking about - you have to make your mark against those teams that always bunch around .500. The difference between the good teams and the mediocre teams is that the good teams go on the road and beat mediocre teams.

It's a statement game for the Bills.
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All very good points. You get to play under the bright light of LA. They have a better record than we do. They won 3 in a row. Another game we are projected to lose. I expect the defense to play with a missive chip on there shoulder and handle business. Its not a hard sell to go us against the world right now.
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This franchise always misses out on these types of games. A chance to go 3-2 after a 4 game stretch when many people had us at 0-4. These are the types of games we need to win. The Rams do not scare me at all. If we let that sorry offense score more points to us then I'll be highly disappointed. A 3-2 start would re-energize this fan base for sure.
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The Arizona game was HUGE, the first win of the year and at home. Second only to that was a HUGE road against a crippled Pats.

Yes every game is huge in the NFL but this one is away, a 3-1 team and not even in the AFC and the Bills have jut gone through two almost
"must win games". On a relative basis, I don't see this game as very important at all.
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while i agree, games against the NFC are of less importance than games against the AFC. this game is still important in the overall scope, ie; our final won-loss record. we currently sit behind two teams in the race for the AFC wildcard (2 losses in the division). i did not count division leaders, as they are not who we would be competing against and even if they swapped placed with who we are currently behind, we would still only be behind two teams.

so, relatively speaking, we are in pretty good shape in our conference. a loss to the Rams would not be the end of the world but we do have to win 3 of these next 4 just to keep pace with the wild card scenario. ideally winning both games against the two upcoming AFC east (conference) foes.
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This has all the markings of a game they'll be able to make all sorts of easy excuses for. Road game. Warm weather. West coast flight. NFC opponent. Decent opponent.
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The Rams become pretenders once the Bills beat them

That is how the media operates.

There is always an excuse when some team fails to beat the Bills
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Excuses are for losers. My point is that this is the kind of game winners win.
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Rex's history can't be ignored.
Whether he loses focus or just isn't able to coach at a high level, it is time to find out.

Rams game is winnable.
49ers look beatable.

Can Rex do it?
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our defense will have to force them into 3 and outs for us to have a chance. Getting licks on Keenum will be key. I expect our offensive points to come by the long ball to Goodwin.
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http://boards.buffalobills.com/showthread.php?533004-Aaron-Donald-Unhinged-Video

Wow...I never heard this before until was digging up info on Aaron Donald. In the game against the 49ers he gets ejected from the game.

in the last part of the vid it shows his hand on the back of a 49ers neck and then flicks his wrist tearing off the helmet. this is on the sideline after the play.


View: https://youtu.be/bOOxSqWe7ro

Maybe we should get him riled up early.
 

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Apparently we are a trap game to them. The Rams should go 5-1, LMAO.

Time to give them a reality check.

Thoughts?

http://www.ramsondemand.com/forums/rams-nfl-talk.26/
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Pretty evenly matched, game could go either way. Don't really believe in trap games myself
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Both defenses are very good

Both teams have big name RB's

Both teams have solid WR's

These two teams are very similar, this will be a low scoring defensive battle.
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A Decade of Dominance:
Buffalo Dominates NFC in the 90s:


1990: 3-1* (*meaningless loss at Wash. wk 17 – rested starters)
1991: 3-1* (*meaningless loss to Detroit wk 17 – rested starters)
1992: 4-0
1993: 4-0
1994: 1-3
1995: 3-1
1996: 4-0
1997: 1-3
1998: 3-1
1999: 3-1

Total: 29-11 (.725)
NFL’s Best Inter-Conference Record of the 90s!


Note: San Francisco, which had the best overall record in the 90s, was only 26-14 (.650) vs. the AFC. Kansas City was 28-12 (.700) vs. the NFC.
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Both teams are evenly matched, but QB gives the Bills an edge. This is really one of those games that will be won in the trenches. I'm excited for the physical defensive battle....I'm also excited to see Jeff Fisher make some dumb mistakes (maybe Rex too.)
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With both teams being pretty evenly matched, turnovers could be the deciding factor.
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They are very complimentary of our team and see themselves as the NFC version of ourselves. Quite a change to see a team speak respectfully of the Bills.
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They seem to think of our LB core as uncertain. Um, apparently they didn't check out any Pats tape. They have the edge on the DL, but I think we have the edge on LB and CB. Our O line will be whipped when this game is over, hope they bring their A game
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This will be no trap game for either team. Dogfight Yes. There will be a lot of Bills fans there, several California Bills Backers clubs will be represented. I hope we get the Win.

Just as a kind of funny side note, there is a Bills fans organized tailgate happening and per the insurance company/security rules, they are stipulating that No Rams fan gear allowed on any person at the Bills tailgate. i'd never heard of anyone doing that before.
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Kind of lame really...
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I'm wondering if that has anything to do with what happened in Baltimore this weekend. 2 Raider fans knocked a Ravens fan to the ground and he ended up with a subdural hematoma. Dude's survival chances are 30%
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Agree if the Bills win I see the difference in the game being Tyrod making a big play or two with his legs or deep downfield in an otherwise low scoring defensive struggle.
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It's Case Keenum. I am pretty sure our defense will be ready for him. He's not exactly Tom Brady either.
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That is a totally different experience than posting on the Pats forum. LA fans are pretty decent. Pats fans are smug snobs
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Bills post their second consecutive shutout on the road in LA.

Jared Goff is pressed into his first regular season game and struggles after Case Keenum is crushed by a delayed blitz by Zach Brown up the middle.

Jeff Fisher wears a Tyrod jersey to his post-game press conference, stating "I just want to feel like a winner."
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We are built like an NFC west team. They are very good on defense like we are. I like our Qb over theres by a good amount. The key is Gurley. Keep him bottled up there offense becomes predictable and stagnat. Turnovers will be key. There linebakers are very athletic and will be a tough go on offense. Taylor will need to carry us.

A different look for him as well. 4-3 defense but more like a nickel because barron is a will saftey. Defense needs to dominate much like theres. They play ugly but have been successful playing that way this far.
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Who are their Corners???

Darby/Gilmore/A.William/Graham all day!!!
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Can't say that I really blame them. They did beat the same Arizona team we beat, and also took care of Seattle, which I'll put at about the same level as a Bradyless Pats.
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According to the stats, Gurley is having an awful year running the ball. If the Rams can't run block, seems like we could employ the same strategy they will against us. Now I realize Keenum had a decent game against the Cards, as well as their defense. But so did Taylor and our defense against that same team. This is barring the fact that we play on the west coast. I really hope our O line gets plenty rested for this game
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He is for the simple fact teams are begging the Rams to beat them through the air. So far they have been pedestrian at best. Much like New England. If we can up 2 scores they are pretty much toast. The only play they made yesterday was the pass to quick in double coverage and neither defender made an attempt to tackle. They thought ot was thrown out of bounds and quick went way up to get it.
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Their defense is incredibly over-rated. They've been a bit lucky in some of their games due to turn overs and Wilson getting hurt limiting his mobility (not to mention the Seahawks hadn't discovered their offense yet). They're a bend but not break defense. I could see this ending up being something like 19-10 with Carp kicking a ton of FGs.
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Wow--I read that whole thread and thought their board members were great--80 percent of the remarks if not more were very respectful and they listed stats showing the game would be close--some of them admitted we would win--thanks for the thread--I enjoyed reading their point of view and thought for the most part they showed a lot of class.
 

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If we can up 2 scores they are pretty much toast. The only play they made yesterday was the pass to quick in double coverage and neither defender made an attempt to tackle. They thought ot was thrown out of bounds and quick went way up to get it.
lol. That's right. The only play they made was the one pass to Quick in which Quick did what good receivers do (score touchdowns).
We didn't throw a back-shoulder fade in the endzone to that same guy to take the final lead (see: score touchdowns).
We didn't connect on a 34 yard pass to Britt.
We didn't connect on a 31 yard pass to Britt either.
We didn't have a 47 yard punt return to set up the go-ahead.
We didn't convert 43% of our third downs.
We didn't create 5 turnovers.

We just had that one play to Quick, and only because both defenders gave up on the play.
Logical argument lacks logic.
 

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Their defense is incredibly over-rated. if anything our D is underated They've been a bit lucky in some of their games due to turn overs or you know players making plays and Wilson getting hurt limiting his mobility (not to mention the Seahawks hadn't discovered their offense yet) this is the most annoying statment whe have owned the hawks the last couple of years even With a healthy Wilson and a fully functioning offense . They're a bend but not break defense. I could see this ending up being something like 19-10 with Carp kicking a ton of FGs.

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So what you're saying is, Cook still sucks chunks even playing with the best QB in the NFL right now? Yep. Pretty much figures. You'd think with Cook's physical talents, he'd be killing teams down the seams with Rodgers. Nope.

Rodgers probably hates his terrible hands and never looks his way.
 

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I hate playing mobile QB's because we don't usually do well with them.
I don't know that I agree with this^ statement. We did pretty well against Seattle and Tampa Bay and their QB's are Pretty mobile!o_O