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Wagoner: Pettis on the bubble

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by max, May 25, 2014.

  1. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    I like Tavon outside too, but not all the time. Plenty of packages and formations to go around wherein all of these guys can get opportunities.
     
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  2. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    I don't want to get in the discussion of all the time. I'm talking primary position. You move players around based on the package to get your best group on the field in the best positions for them to succeed. If Givens, Quick, Bailey and Austin are on the field together. That likely means Austin and Bailey are in the slot. Or Austin is at HB. Which I'd love to see.
     
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  3. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Sure. I agree. Plenty of sub-packages where Tavon could be on the outside. I'd sure like to see more of those stack formations Schottenheimer was trotting out there. Seemed to me every time they used it, someone was getting free.
     
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  4. lockdnram21 Well-Known Member

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    If players get consistent its going to cut backups snaps. which is what im hoping happens. I look for Quick or Britt as X and Bailey or Givens as Y. Tavon in the slot. Unless 1 of those 5 are terrible imo Pettis is the odd man out. I cant see the rams keeping Six receivers. Its going to be a lot of running plays and will be hard enough getting 6 receivers involed and im including Cook.
     
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  5. max Well-Known Member

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    You should practice what you preach. Personal attacks aren't appreciated. And I'll leave it at that.
     
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  6. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Good idea.
     
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  7. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    Then, no, we don't agree. Tavon should primarily be an outside WR. The sub-packages would be where he'd move inside or to HB.
     
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  8. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    That's cool. We don't have to agree. I'd rather see him all over the place rather than relegated to one primary role.
    But that's just me.
     
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  9. BonifayRam Well-Known Member

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    With the Stedman Bailey suspension Pettis would appear to me to be safe in making the 53 master roster. Pettis is entering his 4th season he has been here with Sam longer than any other Ram receiver. Britt entering the scene here does bring this subject up but Sam likes Pettis. Your two speeder receivers in Tavon Austin & Chris Givens, your three big large receivers in Kenny Britt , Brian Quick & Jared Cook then there's the two hands receivers in Stedman Bailey & Austin Pettis. So with Stedman's suspension event would make Austin Pettis more of a sure thing in my mind.

    The Org. has been repeating over & over that they like what they have in this current WR's unit...I see no reason to think they are lying to us. In closing I think that these WR's will have to upgrade there game in many areas especially ....Run Blocking is where Pettis could earn his spot.
     
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  10. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    I'd rather let him settle into a role before trying to get too fancy with him.
     
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  11. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    That's sound logic. But ... that ship has sailed.
    Check out his splits.
     
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  12. max Well-Known Member

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    I take that as an insult. I'm out of here.
     
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  13. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    Ship is still in harbor as far as I'm concerned. Kid is still on our team and in our plans.
     
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  14. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Good post. Pettis doesn't have to be a primary target in this offense. He just has to be what he is when called upon. Clutch. Someone else brought up Ricky Proehl (@Memphis Ram?), and that's a good comparison; though, Pettis is rangier. Is rangier a word? If not, I just made it one. But Proehl was clutch as hell too, and he was always on the bubble. And if Pettis ends up with a defense's #3 corner, then great. He's already proven he can abuse those guys.
     
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  15. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    I'm talking about easing him into a role. That ship has sailed. Meaning, they bypassed that plan.
     
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  16. PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    Bye Max..
     
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  17. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    And we saw the results.
     
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  18. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Yeah. Like I said, yours was sound logic. But as long as they've already given him a full payload, might as well see it through now. For a rookie, he didn't do a bad job of assimilating into all of the different roles - especially if you factor in the infamous tripping callback. Again though, I agree that easing him into the offense would have been a good idea. Not that it would have assuaged all of the concerns about Schotty not being creative enough with him. :sleep:
     
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    The only valid reason for cutting Austin Pettis is salary cap. What Ram wide receiver would replace Pettis? Britt? Britt caught 11 passes last year and had a drop rate of 11.5%.

    Of Ram's wide receivers, only Tavon Austin's 40 catches surpassed Pettis's 38 catches. Pettis caught 4 TD's and only Stedman Bailey 68% caught a higher percentage of passes targeted. Pettis caught 60.3% passes targeted on, while Kenny Britt caught 31.4% of targeted passes.

    I'm not a big Pettis fan, but it's not like we are swimming in #1 WR's or even #2 WR's types. We need for two of our wide recievers to ratchet it up several notches this year, for the Rams to have a chance in hell of making the playoffs.

    Calling... Kenny Britt, Tavon Austin, Stedman Bailey, Brian Quick, or Austin Pettis... We need at least two of young men to mature. I'm not screaming Sour Grapes, but I am searching for splendid aged Cabernet.
     
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    I won't elaborate much esp since my phone is my only means of "typing". I will only say he is 'clutch' in those situations. I don't recall that he drops much and is super reliable on 3rd down. Why cut him? I'm w/ X on this.
     
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