Video: Interference - How Organized Crime Influences Professional Football

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You can get a used copy on Amazon for $3. Get a dose of reality by an author who specializes in investigating organized crime.

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http://www.amazon.com/Interference-Organized-Influences-Professional-Football

This is an interesting account of what has gone on behind the scenes of professional football. The author provides an assortment of stories and accounts that the NFL has largely kept from the public.

 
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I am not saying it isn't possible. In fact I believe the NFL fixes games when they want a specific outcome. Pats/Rams SB and the Steelers/Seahawks SB stand out.

But this was written in the 80s. Today players, especially QBs make enough money that they have no need for a bookies money. College players on the otherhand....
 
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The same thing happens in all sports.

Just this morning, there's a story that one of the head honchos at the (English) Football Association says that the league needs a successful Manchester United for foreign markets and commercial revenue.

Makes all those favourable decisions they've received over the years more understandable, that's for certain.
 
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I think the league, and it's use of referees has more to do with outcome of games than any mobster could ever hope, or conceive. Some calls every week leave the viewers astounded.
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PS as a former Bookie out in Cali, I speak with some knowledge of what I'm sayin
 
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I'd like to solve the puzzle Pat...

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David Stern's NBA.
He was commissioner from 1984 until he announced his pending retirement 2 years ago.
The number of different NBA teams that won championships from 1984-2013 ? Eight.
Only eight teams in 30 years, and that includes a rogue championship from the Dallas Mavericks in 2011. So make that 7 different teams in 29 years.

The first NBA lottery for draft position under Stern in 1985, in which the NY Knicks miraculously beat the odds and got the first pick, and rejuvenated that franchise with future HOF'r Patrick Ewing...the big superstar big man. "New York....New York..." Commonly referred to as the frozen envelope draft or the creased envelope containing the NY Knicks team logo inside. David Stern was a NY city native btw. The NBA needed NY to be a factor again. Stern did his best to make it happen.

The Tim Donaghy referee scandal in 2007. The idea that this scandal was just one referee betting on games and working alone and an anomaly is simply ridiculous. Any casual NBA fan would tell you just how inconsistent...how agenda-driven and "star power" driven these officials operated nightly.

Just a few highlights above.

Stern made the NBA rich, corrupt and eventually, finally it has begun to crap out. I was an avid fan of the game from 1981 untilt around six years ago when i could take it no more. I don't watch anymore.

I could post a full page on this subject but instead... i'll just say have a nice day! :LOL:

/mojo's soap box rant
 
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David Stern's NBA.
He was commissioner from 1984 until he announced his pending retirement 2 years ago.
The number of different NBA teams that won championships from 1984-2013 ? Eight.
Only eight teams in 30 years, and that includes a rogue championship from the Dallas Mavericks in 2011. So make that 7 different teams in 29 years.

The first NBA lottery for draft position under Stern in 1985, in which the NY Knicks miraculously beat the odds and got the first pick, and rejuvenated that franchise with future HOF'r Patrick Ewing...the big superstar big man. "New York....New York..." Commonly referred to as the frozen envelope draft or the creased envelope containing the NY Knicks team logo inside. David Stern was a NY city native btw. The NBA needed NY to be a factor again. Stern did his best to make it happen.

The Tim Donaghy referee scandal in 2007. The idea that this scandal was just one referee betting on games and working alone and an anomaly is simply ridiculous. Any casual NBA fan would tell you just how agenda-driven and "star power" driven these officials operated nightly.

Just a few highlights above.

Stern made the NBA rich, corrupt and eventually, finally it has begun to crap out. I was an avid fan of the game from 1981 untilt around six years ago when i could take it no more. I don't watch anymore.

I could post a full page on this subject but instead... i'll just say have a nice day! :LOL:

/mojo's soap box rant
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Ewing was probably the most dominant player in NCAA since I have been watching.
 
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Mojo Ram said:
David Stern's NBA.
He was commissioner from 1984 until he announced his pending retirement 2 years ago.
The number of different NBA teams that won championships from 1984-2013 ? Eight.
Only eight teams in 30 years, and that includes a rogue championship from the Dallas Mavericks in 2011. So make that 7 different teams in 29 years.

The first NBA lottery for draft position under Stern in 1985, in which the NY Knicks miraculously beat the odds and got the first pick, and rejuvenated that franchise with future HOF'r Patrick Ewing...the big superstar big man. "New York....New York..." Commonly referred to as the frozen envelope draft or the creased envelope containing the NY Knicks team logo inside. David Stern was a NY city native btw. The NBA needed NY to be a factor again. Stern did his best to make it happen.

The Tim Donaghy referee scandal in 2007. The idea that this scandal was just one referee betting on games and working alone and an anomaly is simply ridiculous. Any casual NBA fan would tell you just inconsistent...how agenda-driven and "star power" driven these officials operated nightly.

Just a few highlights above.

Stern made the NBA rich, corrupt and eventually, finally it has begun to crap out. I was an avid fan of the game from 1981 untilt around six years ago when i could take it no more. I don't watch anymore.

I could post a full page on this subject but instead... i'll just say have a nice day! :LOL:

/mojo's soap box rant
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Agreed and I think there may be a day where Football is viewed the same way and I will quit watching. I have too many suspicions already with bogus calls by refs to allow myself to ignore them.
 

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Agreed and I think there may be a day where Football is viewed the same way and I will quit watching. I have too many suspicions already with bogus calls by refs to allow myself to ignore them.
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It not really the calls that bother me as much as the disparity of calls.

A team like NE can mug receivers all day long and maybe get called once a game. The 49ers DL can hold all game long, be called out publicly on it, and yet it still doesnt get called.

Then you have teams that are called for the smallest infractions on seemingly every scoring drive.
 
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As Phx says, it's the blatant disparity in the flags which is most annoying.

Justin Smith holds on nearly every single down, allowing Aldon Smith to make plays, yet never gets called. Nobody ever comments upon this.

And don't get me started on the Cheatriots! I went to the Rams' game at Wembley in 2012 and we were flagged for non-existent infractions while the Patsies got away with everything. I have never seen more one-sided officiating in my life, even in soccer matches (and that's saying something).

Overall, however, I'd say that arbitration is worse in soccer than it is in the NFL.
 
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PhxRam said:
It not really the calls that bother me as much as the disparity of calls.

A team like NE can mug receivers all day long and maybe get called once a game. The 49ers DL can hold all game long, be called out publicly on it, and yet it still doesnt get called.

Then you have teams that are called for the smallest infractions on seemingly every scoring drive.
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Like our team seems to be?
 
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Flipper_336 said:
As Phx says, it's the blatant disparity in the flags which is most annoying.

Justin Smith holds on nearly every single down, allowing Aldon Smith to make plays, yet never gets called. Nobody ever comments upon this.

And don't get me started on the Cheatriots! I went to the Rams' game at Wembley in 2012 and we were flagged for non-existent infractions while the Patsies got away with everything. I have never seen more one-sided officiating in my life, even in soccer matches (and that's saying something).

Overall, however, I'd say that arbitration is worse in soccer than it is in the NFL.
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NOT disagreeing that perennial playoff teams get the calls,I completely agree there,but as far as Smith holding,what he does isn't called because he does it on the way to the QB,if he just sat on the LOS and did what he does,it would be called.
 
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NOT disagreeing that perennial playoff teams get the calls,I completely agree there,but as far as Smith holding,what he does isn't called because he does it on the way to the QB,if he just sat on the LOS and did what he does,it would be called.
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So holding is fine under certain circumstances?
 
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Flipper_336 said:
So holding is fine under certain circumstances?
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For a d-lineman going upfield towards the QB, yes,Smith incorporates upfield movement in his and gets away with what he wouldn't if he was just holding and holding his ground
 
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Elmgrovegnome said:
I am not saying it isn't possible. In fact I believe the NFL fixes games when they want a specific outcome. Pats/Rams SB and the Steelers/Seahawks SB stand out.

But this was written in the 80s. Today players, especially QBs make enough money that they have no need for a bookies money. College players on the otherhand....
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I posted because I think some think roses grow out of the owners' backsides, and I wanted to share another perspective on what this league has grown out of, which is not buried by billion dollar highly sophisticated media spinning. The leopard behind the lipstick is still there. Perhaps the sophistication of tools employed have changed, but I don't think the animal's spots have changed color.
 
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Thordaddy said:
For a d-lineman going upfield towards the QB, yes,Smith incorporates upfield movement in his and gets away with what he wouldn't if he was just holding and holding his ground
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Nah. Holding is a foul, no matter how you attempt to justify it.
 
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