Venturi...

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He had his usual rant today on 101ESPN, and you can go find it if you want because I'm not posting it. Bugs the shit out of me when he and D'Marco giggle about how bad it was and make cracks about players and units. Yeah, real funny. Har dee fucking har.

But.

He did say something that struck a chord with me. When referring to the team as a whole, he said "They look like a bunch of Olympians out there as opposed to Gladiators." Meaning, they have a bunch of speed, and they look ferocious in shorts during practice, but once they strap on that gear, they're anything but. I haven't replayed the game yet, but that's what struck me as I was watching. There's a lot of speed out there, but almost nothing in the way of physicality. One or two plays here and there, sure. But those of us who have been watching this team since the 70's KNOW what physical looks like.

He's also thrown in the towel on Bradford it seems. He gives an obligatory nod to the pressure, and the receivers not breaking free, but he's more zoned in on Bradford's "demeanor." I mean, I don't agree with the rationale or the avenues he takes to get there, but that's just me. Yeah he had a shitty game and his confidence started to recede as the game wore on, but this is the same QB who went toe to toe against that very same defense last year (twice). Maybe his confidence is shaky now, and that's causing him to take less chances, but he's not any less talented than a year ago. Hell, Eli and Ben look like absolute shit too. I'd venture a guess that their careers aren't over at this point.

 

[bluecoconuts]

I think that Bradford is very frustrated that our offense (and defense) seem to be figured out and although he can try, ultimately it's out of his hands.

 

[TexRamFan]

He had his usual rant today on 101ESPN, and you can go find it if you want because I'm not posting it. Bugs the shyte out of me when he and D'Marco giggle about how bad it was and make cracks about players and units. Yeah, real funny. Har dee freaking har.

But.

He did say something that struck a chord with me. When referring to the team as a whole, he said "They look like a bunch of Olympians out there as opposed to Gladiators." Meaning, they have a bunch of speed, and they look ferocious in shorts during practice, but once they strap on that gear, they're anything but. I haven't replayed the game yet, but that's what struck me as I was watching. There's a lot of speed out there, but almost nothing in the way of physicality. One or two plays here and there, sure. But those of us who have been watching this team since the 70's KNOW what physical looks like.

He's also thrown in the towel on Bradford it seems. He gives an obligatory nod to the pressure, and the receivers not breaking free, but he's more zoned in on Bradford's "demeanor." I mean, I don't agree with the rationale or the avenues he takes to get there, but that's just me. Yeah he had a crappy game and his confidence started to recede as the game wore on, but this is the same QB who went toe to toe against that very same defense last year (twice). Maybe his confidence is shaky now, and that's causing him to take less chances, but he's not any less talented than a year ago. Hell, Eli and Ben look like absolute shyte too. I'd venture a guess that their careers aren't over at this point.

I wonder two things...

1. How much of his personal confidence has been shaken.

2 And how much confidence he has in the system he is running.

Because I am starting to be concerned that he is losing both......fast.

 

[smram]

I think that Bradford is very frustrated that our offense (and defense) seem to be figured out and although he can try, ultimately it's out of his hands.

It totally seems figured out. Pass rushers are timing the snap, coverages are always in the right spot it seems. Guys are around tavon ankles the second he gets the ball. Frustrating. Are the rams tipping plays or is the playcalling really predictable? Is that the same thing? Lots of questions.

 

[-X-]

I wonder two things...

1. How much of his personal confidence has been shaken.

2 And how much confidence he has in the system he is running.

Because I am starting to be concerned that he is losing both......fast.

Good questions, and I don't know either. I don't know that he even likes this system to be honest. He says all the right things, but you can catch moments where his true feelings come out from time to time. I remember him publicly complaining about Spags' 2.7 second whistle during practices during his rookie year. Remember that? The time he had to get rid of the ball before he was sacked? I remember him saying that (paraphrasing) it was bogus, because if he had 1 or 2 more seconds, something huge would develop down field, but he's already supposed to have the ball out of his hand. I also remember when he said he liked McDaniels' system the first time around, and I thought that was player-speak, but then he actually rallied for McDaniels to come back the following year despite how awful it went.

And now? Who knows. Maybe he's one of the people "privately grumbling" about this system. I honestly don't think it suits him very well. It's varied, and there are a lot of different looks and formations, but is it what he did at OU when he was successful? No. It isn't. McDaniels liked the fast pace game, and he liked to get Bradford in the gun and on deep drops. Shottenheimer's system seems to be focusing too much on taking what a defense gives you instead of attacking it. But that's just a cursory observation. I could be way off the mark with that because I don't look at game film for hours at a time.

Maybe I should though.

 

[bluecoconuts]

He had his usual rant today on 101ESPN, and you can go find it if you want because I'm not posting it. Bugs the shyte out of me when he and D'Marco giggle about how bad it was and make cracks about players and units. Yeah, real funny. Har dee freaking har.

But.

He did say something that struck a chord with me. When referring to the team as a whole, he said "They look like a bunch of Olympians out there as opposed to Gladiators." Meaning, they have a bunch of speed, and they look ferocious in shorts during practice, but once they strap on that gear, they're anything but. I haven't replayed the game yet, but that's what struck me as I was watching. There's a lot of speed out there, but almost nothing in the way of physicality. One or two plays here and there, sure. But those of us who have been watching this team since the 70's KNOW what physical looks like.

He's also thrown in the towel on Bradford it seems. He gives an obligatory nod to the pressure, and the receivers not breaking free, but he's more zoned in on Bradford's "demeanor." I mean, I don't agree with the rationale or the avenues he takes to get there, but that's just me. Yeah he had a crappy game and his confidence started to recede as the game wore on, but this is the same QB who went toe to toe against that very same defense last year (twice). Maybe his confidence is shaky now, and that's causing him to take less chances, but he's not any less talented than a year ago. Hell, Eli and Ben look like absolute shyte too. I'd venture a guess that their careers aren't over at this point.

I wonder two things...

1. How much of his personal confidence has been shaken.

2 And how much confidence he has in the system he is running.

Because I am starting to be concerned that he is losing both......fast.

Confidence in himself, not much confidence in the system. At least that's what I take from it.


If he didn't have confidence in himself he wouldn't be betting on himself in terms of contract negotiations.

 

[EastRam]

I wonder two things...

1. How much of his personal confidence has been shaken.

2 And how much confidence he has in the system he is running.

Because I am starting to be concerned that he is losing both......fast.

Good questions, and I don't know either. I don't know that he even likes this system to be honest. He says all the right things, but you can catch moments where his true feelings come out from time to time. I remember him publicly complaining about Spags' 2.7 second whistle during practices during his rookie year. Remember that? The time he had to get rid of the ball before he was sacked? I remember him saying that (paraphrasing) it was bogus, because if he had 1 or 2 more seconds, something huge would develop down field, but he's already supposed to have the ball out of his hand. I also remember when he said he liked McDaniels' system the first time around, and I thought that was player-speak, but then he actually rallied for McDaniels to come back the following year despite how awful it went.

And now? Who knows. Maybe he's one of the people "privately grumbling" about this system. I honestly don't think it suits him very well. It's varied, and there are a lot of different looks and formations, but is it what he did at OU when he was successful? No. It isn't. McDaniels liked the fast pace game, and he liked to get Bradford in the gun and on deep drops. Shottenheimer's system seems to be focusing too much on taking what a defense gives you instead of attacking it. But that's just a cursory observation. I could be way off the mark with that because I don't look at game film for hours at a time.

Maybe I should though.

Sounds to me like SB would love a Martz system.

Give me Lovie and Martz under Fisher and you may never see a better coached team in the history of the nfl..

 

[RhodyRams]

all ya have to do is look at the Jets film from 3-4 years ago, and figure out what Shotty is going to do next.

Bradford seems to have lost any type of fire and ambition. Almost as if he doesn't care (insert infamous GIF here)

 

[Selassie I]

Spags used to meet with Sam before every game and tell him all about what the opposing defense. Defense. All defense.

McD was ALL OFFENSE. The only time he had a situation were the Offense actually tried to be offensive instead of defensive. It was dysfunctional with Spags in the background though.

Shotty has been molded from his Pops. A defensive minded old school football coach. Defensive.


Sam is CRAVING OFFENSE.


I can't blame him.

 

[CGI_Ram]

And now? Who knows. Maybe he's one of the people "privately grumbling" about this system. I honestly don't think it suits him very well. It's varied, and there are a lot of different looks and formations, but is it what he did at OU when he was successful? No. It isn't. McDaniels liked the fast pace game, and he liked to get Bradford in the gun and on deep drops.

Put me in the camp that believes Sam should be utilized more toward his strengths.

Even if Fisher and Schotty have their reasons they don't like fast pace, if it fits the personnel, they should reconsider.

 

[fastcat]

X, reality on Bradford is that when he is hit or pressured he gets happy feet, and looks like he is lost. Just hit him a few times and the rest of the game u can just blow on his feet and he will be uncomfortable. I really don't recall his rookie yr completely but I don't think he had that problem, atleast early in that season. How many years are we as fans are not gonna look at the reality Of this? He is talented, and accurate, but if he isn't put into a PERFECT situation, odds are he won't succeed. He is mobile enough to move around in the pocket but for the most part, he doesn't when he feels pressure. And the oc, isn't helping by not moving the pocket or calling rollout passes. Then on top of that he isn't a leader... He doesn't rally his guys, he shows no moxi, but reality on that is u don't need moxi to be successful but it would help. Sam is what he is! He isn't an elite qb, he never will be one. He may have a few elite yrs in his career buy it doesn't take 4 or 5 yrs for a qb who has started from day 1 to SHOW u he is elite. And I'm not blaming him for these 3 loses, becuaae even an elite qb would have has a hard time winning games like this. Point is he is who he is, and his problem is just between his ears. That's something a coach can't fix. We need to start looking to the future sa far as qbs are concerned, not saying run Sam out of time but we need some healthy competition

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[CGI_Ram]

X, reality on Bradford is that when he is hit or pressured he gets happy feet, and looks like he is lost. Just hit him a few times and the rest of the game u can just blow on his feet and he will be uncomfortable. I really don't recall his rookie yr completely but I don't think he had that problem, atleast early in that season. How many years are we as fans are not gonna look at the reality Of this? He is talented, and accurate, but if he isn't put into a PERFECT situation, odds are he won't succeed. He us mobile enough to move around in the pocket but for the most part, he doesn't when he feels pressure. And the oc, isn't helping by not moving the pocket or calling rollout passes. Then in top if that he isn't a leader... He doesn't rally his guys, he shows no moxi, but reality on that us u don't bees that to be successful but it would help. Sam is what he is he isn't an elite qb, he never will be one. He may have a few elite yrs in his career buy it doesn't take 4 or 5 yrs for a qb who has started from day 1 to SHOW u he is elite. And I'm not blaming him for these 3 loses, becuaae even an elite qb would have has a hard time winning games like this. Point is he is who he is, and his problem is just between his ears. That's something a coach can't fix. We need to start looking to the future sa far as qbs are concerned, not saying run Sam out of time but we need some healthy competition

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I've seen Sam with happy feet in years prior, but IMO... he's stood pretty darn tall in the pocket these last two weeks.

Perhaps I'm just seeing what I want to? But he's a tough SOB in my book.

 

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X, reality on Bradford is that when he is hit or pressured he gets happy feet, and looks like he is lost. Just hit him a few times and the rest of the game u can just blow on his feet and he will be uncomfortable. I really don't recall his rookie yr completely but I don't think he had that problem, atleast early in that season. How many years are we as fans are not gonna look at the reality Of this? He is talented, and accurate, but if he isn't put into a PERFECT situation, odds are he won't succeed. He us mobile enough to move around in the pocket but for the most part, he doesn't when he feels pressure. And the oc, isn't helping by not moving the pocket or calling rollout passes. Then in top if that he isn't a leader... He doesn't rally his guys, he shows no moxi, but reality on that us u don't bees that to be successful but it would help. Sam is what he is he isn't an elite qb, he never will be one. He may have a few elite yrs in his career buy it doesn't take 4 or 5 yrs for a qb who has started from day 1 to SHOW u he is elite. And I'm not blaming him for these 3 loses, becuaae even an elite qb would have has a hard time winning games like this. Point is he is who he is, and his problem is just between his ears. That's something a coach can't fix. We need to start looking to the future sa far as qbs are concerned, not saying run Sam out of time but we need some healthy competition

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All due respect, that's your reality. I think you bring up some good points, but I think the reality lies somewhere in between. All QBs ... ALL OF THEM ... look skittish when they're pressured heavily. Even Tom by the grace of god Brady looked like Jim Druckenmiller when the Giants dialed up the pressure on him. There are QBs who can do far more when pressured than Bradford can (Rodgers, Roethlisberger to name a couple), but he's not those guys. When you have a QB that you KNOW needs maximum protection, then it should be your very top priority. I think Fisher and company tried to make it so, but it's not materializing. I don't know where the blame lies with that, but it should be priority number one for the rest of the season now.

Brady looks like Brady when he has perfect protection. Seriously. Look at the protection he gets.
Why would anyone think Bradford shouldn't be afforded the same treatment?

 

[fastcat]

X, reality on Bradford is that when he is hit or pressured he gets happy feet, and looks like he is lost. Just hit him a few times and the rest of the game u can just blow on his feet and he will be uncomfortable. I really don't recall his rookie yr completely but I don't think he had that problem, atleast early in that season. How many years are we as fans are not gonna look at the reality Of this? He is talented, and accurate, but if he isn't put into a PERFECT situation, odds are he won't succeed. He us mobile enough to move around in the pocket but for the most part, he doesn't when he feels pressure. And the oc, isn't helping by not moving the pocket or calling rollout passes. Then in top if that he isn't a leader... He doesn't rally his guys, he shows no moxi, but reality on that us u don't bees that to be successful but it would help. Sam is what he is he isn't an elite qb, he never will be one. He may have a few elite yrs in his career buy it doesn't take 4 or 5 yrs for a qb who has started from day 1 to SHOW u he is elite. And I'm not blaming him for these 3 loses, becuaae even an elite qb would have has a hard time winning games like this. Point is he is who he is, and his problem is just between his ears. That's something a coach can't fix. We need to start looking to the future sa far as qbs are concerned, not saying run Sam out of time but we need some healthy competition

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I've seen Sam with happy feet in years prior, but IMO... he's stood pretty darn tall in the pocket these last two weeks.

Perhaps I'm just seeing what I want to? But he's a tough SOB in my book.

He is tough, u damn well gotta be tough to take that beating he has been getting. But he isn't tough enough to have A LOT of fight back! Not saying he doesn't fight back because he does, but imo its not strong enough. I will root for him as long sa he is here but reality is reality

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[Stranger]

He had his usual rant today on 101ESPN, and you can go find it if you want because I'm not posting it. Bugs the shit out of me when he and D'Marco giggle about how bad it was and make cracks about players and units. Yeah, real funny. Har dee fucking har.

But.

He did say something that struck a chord with me. When referring to the team as a whole, he said "They look like a bunch of Olympians out there as opposed to Gladiators." Meaning, they have a bunch of speed, and they look ferocious in shorts during practice, but once they strap on that gear, they're anything but. I haven't replayed the game yet, but that's what struck me as I was watching. There's a lot of speed out there, but almost nothing in the way of physicality. One or two plays here and there, sure. But those of us who have been watching this team since the 70's KNOW what physical looks like.

He's also thrown in the towel on Bradford it seems. He gives an obligatory nod to the pressure, and the receivers not breaking free, but he's more zoned in on Bradford's "demeanor." I mean, I don't agree with the rationale or the avenues he takes to get there, but that's just me. Yeah he had a shitty game and his confidence started to recede as the game wore on, but this is the same QB who went toe to toe against that very same defense last year (twice). Maybe his confidence is shaky now, and that's causing him to take less chances, but he's not any less talented than a year ago. Hell, Eli and Ben look like absolute shit too. I'd venture a guess that their careers aren't over at this point.

Smart move. I generally look forward to Venturi each week, but I don't think I could stomach-it this week.

 

[fastcat]

X, reality on Bradford is that when he is hit or pressured he gets happy feet, and looks like he is lost. Just hit him a few times and the rest of the game u can just blow on his feet and he will be uncomfortable. I really don't recall his rookie yr completely but I don't think he had that problem, atleast early in that season. How many years are we as fans are not gonna look at the reality Of this? He is talented, and accurate, but if he isn't put into a PERFECT situation, odds are he won't succeed. He us mobile enough to move around in the pocket but for the most part, he doesn't when he feels pressure. And the oc, isn't helping by not moving the pocket or calling rollout passes. Then in top if that he isn't a leader... He doesn't rally his guys, he shows no moxi, but reality on that us u don't bees that to be successful but it would help. Sam is what he is he isn't an elite qb, he never will be one. He may have a few elite yrs in his career buy it doesn't take 4 or 5 yrs for a qb who has started from day 1 to SHOW u he is elite. And I'm not blaming him for these 3 loses, becuaae even an elite qb would have has a hard time winning games like this. Point is he is who he is, and his problem is just between his ears. That's something a coach can't fix. We need to start looking to the future sa far as qbs are concerned, not saying run Sam out of time but we need some healthy competition

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All due respect, that's your reality. I think you bring up some good points, but I think the reality lies somewhere in between. All QBs ... ALL OF THEM ... look skittish when they're pressured heavily. Even Tom by the grace of god Brady looked like Jim Druckenmiller when the Giants dialed up the pressure on him. There are QBs who can do far more when pressured than Bradford can (Rodgers, Roethlisberger to name a couple), but he's not those guys. When you have a QB that you KNOW needs maximum protection, then it should be your very top priority. I think Fisher and company tried to make it so, but it's not materializing. I don't know where the blame lies with that, but it should be priority number one for the rest of the season now.

Brady looks like Brady when he has perfect protection. Seriously. Look at the protection he gets.
Why would anyone think Bradford shouldn't be afforded the same treatment?

He does look like Brady under pressure but giving time I have to disagree on u about looking like Brady. He may show strong flashes of Brady but one thing a very good qb does is throw guys open, Sam does it next to none. I'm not trynna bash the guy or your opinion of him but u watch the same games I watch lol.

You can tell how strong a man's will and heart is once u see how he responds to adversity... When the bullets are flying. Sam consistently fails in this department. I don't know the guy but looking through my tv, with my sunglasses off his attitude and body language doesn't show a guy with a lot of confidence after he is hit a few times. I have seen (granted just a few times) him sitting on the bench byhumself or a coach when he should be seeing where his offensive players heads are. I went to the game yesterday, in the third qtr when the adore was still 21-3 he was sacked on a 3rd down. I swear to u all the offensive players walked one way and he walked another and sat on an empty bench, by himself. The game was still in reach and he just looked like he gave up, even his facial expression

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[-X-]

X, reality on Bradford is that when he is hit or pressured he gets happy feet, and looks like he is lost. Just hit him a few times and the rest of the game u can just blow on his feet and he will be uncomfortable. I really don't recall his rookie yr completely but I don't think he had that problem, atleast early in that season. How many years are we as fans are not gonna look at the reality Of this? He is talented, and accurate, but if he isn't put into a PERFECT situation, odds are he won't succeed. He us mobile enough to move around in the pocket but for the most part, he doesn't when he feels pressure. And the oc, isn't helping by not moving the pocket or calling rollout passes. Then in top if that he isn't a leader... He doesn't rally his guys, he shows no moxi, but reality on that us u don't bees that to be successful but it would help. Sam is what he is he isn't an elite qb, he never will be one. He may have a few elite yrs in his career buy it doesn't take 4 or 5 yrs for a qb who has started from day 1 to SHOW u he is elite. And I'm not blaming him for these 3 loses, becuaae even an elite qb would have has a hard time winning games like this. Point is he is who he is, and his problem is just between his ears. That's something a coach can't fix. We need to start looking to the future sa far as qbs are concerned, not saying run Sam out of time but we need some healthy competition

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All due respect, that's your reality. I think you bring up some good points, but I think the reality lies somewhere in between. All QBs ... ALL OF THEM ... look skittish when they're pressured heavily. Even Tom by the grace of god Brady looked like Jim Druckenmiller when the Giants dialed up the pressure on him. There are QBs who can do far more when pressured than Bradford can (Rodgers, Roethlisberger to name a couple), but he's not those guys. When you have a QB that you KNOW needs maximum protection, then it should be your very top priority. I think Fisher and company tried to make it so, but it's not materializing. I don't know where the blame lies with that, but it should be priority number one for the rest of the season now.

Brady looks like Brady when he has perfect protection. Seriously. Look at the protection he gets.
Why would anyone think Bradford shouldn't be afforded the same treatment?

He does look like Brady under pressure but giving time I have to disagree on u about looking like Brady. He may show strong flashes of Brady but one thing a very good qb does is throw guys open, Sam does it next to none. I'm not trynna bash the guy or your opinion of him but u watch the same games I watch lol.

You can tell how strong a man's will and heart is once u see how he responds to adversity... When the bullets are flying. Sam consistently fails in this department. I don't know the guy but looking through my tv, with my sunglasses off his attitude and body language doesn't show a guy with a lot of confidence after he is hit a few times. I have seen (granted just a few times) him sitting on the bench byhumself or a coach when he should be seeing where his offensive players heads are. I went to the game yesterday, in the third qtr when the adore was still 21-3 he was sacked on a 3rd down. I swear to u all the offensive players walked one way and he walked another and sat on an empty bench, by himself. The game was still in reach and he just looked like he gave up, even his facial expression

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Well, let me be clear. I'm not comparing Bradford to Brady in terms of talent. Not at all. All I'm trying to convey is that Brady has an enormous amount of protection, and Bradford doesn't. With that kind of protection, Brady looks unstoppable. Also with that kind of protection, Bradford looks very good. I'm starting to think that the sackless streak this year was due to the peanut gallery passing game he's been restricted to.

At any rate, I agree that he looks bad when he's harassed. I'm also saying that's not an anomaly in the league. Most guys do look like that under those conditions. I'm just gonna go back to my previous statement of saying that Bradford is Bradford. He can't do what Rodgers does. He can't do what Roethlisberger does. He needs to be kept upright for more than a couple of seconds, and up to 4 seconds if you want to get the most out of him. That's not a knock on him, because that's who he's always been. He didn't all of a sudden need more protection because he's declining. It's always been that way.

The facial expressions and demeanor stuff, I'll leave to the psychoanalysts. I have no experience with that.

 

[joeybittick]

X, reality on Bradford is that when he is hit or pressured he gets happy feet, and looks like he is lost. Just hit him a few times and the rest of the game u can just blow on his feet and he will be uncomfortable. I really don't recall his rookie yr completely but I don't think he had that problem, atleast early in that season. How many years are we as fans are not gonna look at the reality Of this? He is talented, and accurate, but if he isn't put into a PERFECT situation, odds are he won't succeed. He us mobile enough to move around in the pocket but for the most part, he doesn't when he feels pressure. And the oc, isn't helping by not moving the pocket or calling rollout passes. Then in top if that he isn't a leader... He doesn't rally his guys, he shows no moxi, but reality on that us u don't bees that to be successful but it would help. Sam is what he is he isn't an elite qb, he never will be one. He may have a few elite yrs in his career buy it doesn't take 4 or 5 yrs for a qb who has started from day 1 to SHOW u he is elite. And I'm not blaming him for these 3 loses, becuaae even an elite qb would have has a hard time winning games like this. Point is he is who he is, and his problem is just between his ears. That's something a coach can't fix. We need to start looking to the future sa far as qbs are concerned, not saying run Sam out of time but we need some healthy competition

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I've seen Sam with happy feet in years prior, but IMO... he's stood pretty darn tall in the pocket these last two weeks.

Perhaps I'm just seeing what I want to? But he's a tough SOB in my book.

He is tough, u damn well gotta be tough to take that beating he has been getting. But he isn't tough enough to have A LOT of fight back! Not saying he doesn't fight back because he does, but imo its not strong enough. I will root for him as long sa he is here but reality is reality

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And subjective reality is subjective reality. I wish people could understand the difference between their opinion and actual facts. When dealing with a subject like this (scouting, basically) it's all opinion. the only thing that is not an opinion are the numbers.

The numbers this year:

1,093 yards, 58.8% completion, 7 TD's, 3 INT's, 82.1 QB Rating, 11 sacks.

And, correct me if I am wrong, but all 11 of those sacks have come in the last 2 games, right? (un) suprisingly his numbers in those two games have been worse than the first two games. His numbers were BAD against SF, but they were pretty good against DAL. To me, the DAL game is an example of him overcoming the poor play of the team around him. Not enough to win, but to at least play a respectable game. As far as I am concerned, I don't think there are many QBs who would have played better.

Did anyone get to see the Patsies against the Jets? If you did, you saw Tom Brady look bad as the players around him on offense couldn't make plays. Luckily for him though the pats Def stepped up against a bad Jets offense.

Here are some other numbers:

189- That's the Rams total number of rushing yards.

534- Opponents rushing yards.

6.0- Yards per attempt. That seems like a scheme problem to me, but that's just my OPINION.

2.6- Avg yards per rush.

4.6- Opponents yards per rush

9- Number of sacks by the Rams defense. If they keep up that pace they will be way down from last year.

1- Number of interceptions by the Rams Defense.

70%- completion percentage of opposing QB's against the Rams defense.

Now, whatever conclusions I draw from these numbers is an opinion. It is not a fact. It is not "reality". So, my opinion is that anyone who puts all of the blame on the Rams QB for the way the team has played so far is an idiot.

I get that people rip the QB because that's where most of their attention is. That's where the camera is focused all game. It's the easy thing to do. But here are some more numbers.

4,372 yards, 28 TD, 12 INT.

Those would be Bradford's numbers at the end of the year if he continued to play as he has played the first 4 games. That looks pretty good. Will he reach those numbers? Of course I don't know. But I just wish people would quit being lazy when they evaluate the games. If you want to be a lazy poster, go post on the PD site. If you want to rip on the easy target, they do that over there all day every day. But, I want to have intelligent football discussions, so I will stay here. '

Is Bradford infallible? No. He flat out missed Pettis on the one throw for what would have been a TD. Did he have players in his face? yes. But, judging by his reaction, he knows he should have made that throw. But, again, going back to Tom Brady against the Jets, he made some pretty bad throws. If Mayock could have taken Brady's balls out of his mouth, he would have mentioned that. But he didn't so maybe people didn't see the throws that were not on target. It happens to every QB, people seem to forget that.

/rant

 

[joeybittick]

You can tell how strong a man's will and heart is once u see how he responds to adversity... When the bullets are flying. Sam consistently fails in this department.

Bullshit. Against Dallas: 240 yards, 60.4 completion %, 1 TD, 0 INT, 6 SACKS.

Against the pressure he faced that game, I think he played a good game. He played poorly against SF, but players have bad games. Kurt Warner had bad games. Marshall Faulk once fumbled 3 times in a game during the GSOT years if I am not mistaken. People act like we are talking about Tony Banks or something. Has been Peyton Manning? No. But he has been a good QB so far this season, aside from the SF game. And the whole team played horribly that game, so maybe there is a reason that the QB did as well.

 

[Rambitious1]

I wonder two things...

1. How much of his personal confidence has been shaken.

2 And how much confidence he has in the system he is running.

Because I am starting to be concerned that he is losing both......fast.

Good questions, and I don't know either. I don't know that he even likes this system to be honest. He says all the right things, but you can catch moments where his true feelings come out from time to time. I remember him publicly complaining about Spags' 2.7 second whistle during practices during his rookie year. Remember that? The time he had to get rid of the ball before he was sacked? I remember him saying that (paraphrasing) it was bogus, because if he had 1 or 2 more seconds, something huge would develop down field, but he's already supposed to have the ball out of his hand. I also remember when he said he liked McDaniels' system the first time around, and I thought that was player-speak, but then he actually rallied for McDaniels to come back the following year despite how awful it went.

And now? Who knows. Maybe he's one of the people "privately grumbling" about this system. I honestly don't think it suits him very well. It's varied, and there are a lot of different looks and formations, but is it what he did at OU when he was successful? No. It isn't. McDaniels liked the fast pace game, and he liked to get Bradford in the gun and on deep drops. Shottenheimer's system seems to be focusing too much on taking what a defense gives you instead of attacking it. But that's just a cursory observation. I could be way off the mark with that because I don't look at game film for hours at a time.

Maybe I should though.

Sounds to me like SB would love a Martz system.

Give me Lovie and Martz under Fisher and you may never see a better coached team in the history of the nfl..

Maybe.