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Tavon Austin

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by Rams and Gators, May 31, 2014.

  1. jap Well-Known Member

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    Actually, Tavon did miss a practice . . . once . . . after he broke a finger in a game. However, he never actually missed a game until his rookie season when Dansby damaged his ankle.
     
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  2. leoram Well-Known Member

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    I said before the 13 draft and will forever, Tavon is Az Hakim 2.0. Amazing quickness. Difference maker in slot and chess piece outside. GSOT was not the same without him per Kurt and Marshall. His hands are small and suspect but when he secures the ball, he's one defensive missed step to score.

    I too was a Patterson honk and wish we had him but he's a Viking now and spilled milk sours more and more over time. He might as well be Randy Moss pouting and giving up as we pound him in the fourth quarter of the playoffs.

    It does no more good to speculate. We will rally around Austin, and we will play good football.
     
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  3. jap Well-Known Member

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    Tavon is better than the Wizard of Az---faster, quicker, much more sure with the ball in his hands. Az was a fumble waiting to happen half the time. Get Tavon outside in space and he could serve as the catalyst for our passing offense. The attention he will draw will allow easier 1-on-1 match ups for our other flyboys. If the DC's seek to flood the secondary with DB's to control him, our RB's and the Battering Ram OL will make them pay dearly, especially since each of our top four backs have the ability to take the rock quite a ways in space.
     
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  4. HX76 Well-Known Member

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    Just look at his third touchdown against Indianapolis. Get him open anywhere on the field and he'll make things happen. Not one person on there defence could get anywhere near him? If the Rams utilise him in the right way he'll be a massive success.
     
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  5. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    Is that why Anquan Boldin has been more prone to injury than Wes Welker? All it takes is limited football experience to recognize that injury proneness has little to do with size.

    Except Austin didn't get hurt on a big hit. He got hurt when a LB rolled up on his ankle. You know, the same situation that tore 6'7" 330 pound Jake Long's ACL. The same situation that hurt 6'5" 330 pound Rodger Saffold in 2012. The same situation that injured 6'4" 230 pound Sam Bradford in 2011.

    I'm on weak ground? freak that. If Austin had been getting shaken up after every hit, you'd have a point. But that's not even close to what happened. The guy had no problems taking hits. He got unlucky. crap happens in football. Doesn't matter how big or small you are.

    Being smaller makes it harder for you to take the constant pounding...but as a WR, that's really not a major issue unless you're playing a Wes Welker type role where you touch the ball a ton of times.

    Patterson is not just as dangerous in the open-field.

    I'll clearly take Austin. He has cutting ability, route running, and speed. And after those first five games where he clearly wasn't ready to be on the field, he dropped ZERO passes.

    Patterson isn't physical, he's not a jump ball WR, and he's not a true speedster. He's a YAC WR. And Austin is more dangerous than he is with the ball in his hands.
     
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  6. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    WHAAAAAAAT? Austin embarrassed quite a few CBs as a rookie when they tried to jam him. You're much better off trying to redirect Austin or knock him off his route than jam him at the LOS. He's too small, fast and quick. There are a lot of things to criticize rookie Austin for...beating the press ain't one of them.
     
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  7. mr.stlouis Well-Known Member

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    Gearld McCoy got snubbed from the Pro Bowl last year, that says a lot. There's few better than him at DT, maybe nobody. Patterson did OK, though.

    I didn't see Tavon get a whole lot "open field" last year. I don't beleive our offense will crumble like it did at the beginning of last year and Tavon will outshine Patttsrson by year's end.

    We need to make a betting line for this.
     
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  8. jap Well-Known Member

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    Well, the Colts were stupid enough to dare to take on Tavon with man coverage. I doubt any DC's, including the Colts', will ever do that again. However, Tavon would be best used mostly outside. They still need to move him around a lot to take full advantage of mismatches. Let him cover the entire route tree for all the WR positions; let him take the rock out of the backfield every now and then. Don't let any DC's feel comfortable setting up schemes against him in just one position.
     
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  9. TheDYVKX THE D

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    Coordinators regularly change their defense strictly for Tavon. Patterson is a threat, but nothing like Tavon.
     
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  10. rdw Ridiculously Delightful Wackjob

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    That's it, cut his ass!
     
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  11. leoram Well-Known Member

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    Tavon dropped more balls than an honest duffer on a water filled golf course last year. Cook and Givens are nearly as bad. All three have athletic talent but I'd take Bruce, Holt, and Conwell over them based on route running and hands alone. When Tavon cleans up his drops, I will concur that his other qualities put him above Az. Az fumbled the punts so often I prayed for Proehl, Holt, or Faulk to fair catch something rather than put Az back there. But for whatever reason. Az caught passes that in his rookie year, Austin laid on the turf.
     
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  12. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    LOL no kidding. I've always said that when Az caught the ball or fielded a punt BOTH sidelines held their breath.
     
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  13. Dog Well-Known Member Pit Boss

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    I'm not going to get into the debate and try to prove one way or the other that Tavon has value....

    But I am in the minority and agree with the Gator fan.....in retrospect, I make another selection in the draft.

    Now....lets hope Tavon makes me look like a fool.
     
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  14. OnceARam Well-Known Member

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    Hindsight is 20-20.... but I agree with you. He was WAY over drafted.
     
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  15. BeerOClock Well-Known Member

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    Injuries: Austin out 3 1/4 games, Patterson out 0 games. Enough said.

    No it wasn't a big hit (that's my point), but it wasn't even close to being the same situation as Jake Long. Dansby had very little of his weight on Austin. It was a simple tackle, with minimal if any roll. A sturdily built player would have gotten up with no problems. Not Austin--he's out for the remainder of the season.

    Just one more of your one-sided opinions. The facts:

    NFL records[edit]

    • Longest kickoff return touchdown: 109 yards (October 27, 2013)
    • The first NFL player to have a 100-yard kickoff return touchdown, a 75-yard touchdown catch, and a 50-yard rushing touchdown in the same season. (2013)
    Minnesota Vikings franchise records[edit]
    • Most kickoff return yards in a season: 1,393 (2013)
    • Highest kick return average in a season: 32.4 (2013)
    • Most kickoff return touchdowns in a season: 2 (2013) (tied with Percy Harvin)[17]
    • Longest rushing play by a receiver: 50 yards (December 29, 2013)
    • Longest play by a Viking: 109 yards (October 27, 2013)
    2013 AP All-Pro.


    Again, you're wrong. Watch Patterson's tape in college--he's a very physical player, often running over SEC defenders. I'll tell you what: You post the most physical play Tavon Austin has ever made and I'll post the same for Patterson. Let's decide. Austin rarely breaks an arm tackle. Patterson is faster than Sammy Watkins. So Watkins is not a true speedster? Patterson had almost double the APY and more TDs than Austin had. No, Patterson's not a jump ball WR, but infinitely more so than Austin who is an extremely limited target. And, unlike Austin, he has the physical tools to be one.
     
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  16. Memphis Ram Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like the Jets were hot after him with the very next selection.

    Again, love the player, but I preferred staying put or moving down from #16 and selecting Patterson and keeping that 2nd rounder.
     
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  17. Dog Well-Known Member Pit Boss

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    Yikes.....did beer cause this? I love beer. Great post.
     
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  18. RamBill Well-Known Member

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    Simple Tackle? Minimal if any roll? :LOL:

    Here's the play:

    That amount of torque on the ankle would have injured anyone's ankle. Has nothing to do with his size. You can see the ankle/lower leg externally rotated at least 45 degrees from normal at 1:10 in the video
     
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  19. lockdnram21 Well-Known Member

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    Yea I feel he is going to have a monster year. I think Austin might be the #2. Hopefully Britt or Quick can take some pressure off of him as the #1.
     
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  20. rams New Member

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    Watch Patterson run with the ball, his cutting is one of his strengths. The dude can turn on a dime. I know you were speaking of Austin's cutting ability without the ball, but if Patterson can do that with the ball then I see no reason why he can't do it without. They are both similar receivers at completely different statures. Neither of them are going to be superb route runners anyway. They are more YAC receivers.
     
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