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Take the Sam's last chance talk somewhere else

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by blackbart, Apr 22, 2014.

  1. duckhunter Active Member

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    Will they have clothes on? If they don't, I won't miss it.
     
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  2. V3 Well-Known Member

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    I'll freely admit that I voted for 0 simply because Angry Ram started a thread saying how he was upset that someone would vote for zero. The tally was getting higher as he posted and you could see him turning into the Hulk. I thought it was funny so I added to the fire so I could see his :mad:Hulk Smash:mad:! Who wouldn't want to see that? :ROFLMAO:

    Do any of you honestly think people believe the Rams will only get zero wins?
     
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  3. Dagonet Grillin and Chillin

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    You meant allowed? Or meant aloud for yelling? Testing here more or less though for the FB page. :cool:
     
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  4. A55VA6 Shutdown Corner

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    Oops, yeah I meant allowed. Must have had a typo and it auto-corrected haha.
     
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  5. Dagonet Grillin and Chillin

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    No biggie man. I wasn't trying to be the grammar Nazi.. lol I was just wanting to reply to a post in this thread to test on FB. I saw that and was like sweet.. :cool: Believe me, you can correct my grammar most anytime when I post. Meaning I am bad. All good brother. lol
     
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  6. fancents86 Member

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    Not sure how you can talk negative about a qb that played better than some of the top qbs in the league last year, Brady included, and only played half a season at that. Also Imagine if our receivers hadn't made us 2nd in the league with dropped balls...
     
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  7. laramsoriginal Active Member

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    Great post.
     
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  8. iced Well-Known Member

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    would love to stand to next to 'em - in comparison to them, i'd make an black man look Asian
     
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  9. oldramfan bigramfan1966

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    Hey thanks for letting us know you're a homer. I've been a Ram fan a long time and I say I'm entitled to my opinion. I used to support Sam but in 4 years he has shown very little in terms of leadership and just plain wins. I believe this is his last year as a Ram if he doesn't get his act together and lead us someplace besides out of the playoffs and him injured on the sidelines. I appreciate your fervor but Sam needs to prove himself before I will jump back on his bandwagon.
     
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  10. blackbart Well-Known Member

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    Homer me??? Yeah no doubt about it. You can't leave the rest of what has happened with the team out when analyzing Bradford's performance. The team was the biggest POS in NFL history when he got here and the injuries have come because of the crappy oline he has been forced to play behind.
     
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  11. fearsomefour Well-Known Member

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    It comes down to the same old bottom line....where is the better option? I don't see one either in FA or in the draft.
    To me Bradford has improved at avoiding sacks and has never turned the ball over much. The biggest thing propelling him forward may be the improved run game and hopefully more consistent D. There will still stretches last year when the O just disappeared. That is not completely on Bradford.
    With a FA market that is not going to see any prime QB hit the market and a draft that will provide players that need work I ask yet again, what is the other option?
     
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  12. fearsomefour Well-Known Member

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    Not a leader how?
    I've never read there has been any issue with Sam. Everything I have read about Bradford indicates he is always there and a hard worker.
    If you want to talk about completion %, not pushing the ball downfield, taking sacks ect, ok, there can be a discussion.
    But, saying he does not have leadership qualities (not everyone is a fist pumper, spike the ball, yell for the camera) is based on nothing. No one on this board knows whether he is or not.
    I would assume he is based more on things going badly under the first administration and not hearing a peep coming out about Sam, as opposed to what typically happens....see Washington last year.
     
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  13. ramsince62 Well-Known Member

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    Who are we talking about, Obozo or Bradford?
     
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  14. Mojo Ram On double secret probation

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    When Bradford starts kissing his biceps after a TD pass we'll know he's arrived as a leader.
     
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  15. ramsince62 Well-Known Member

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    I thought that I was clear about being a fan of 52 years, not 4. Naturally those observations included that entire period and league. If you wish to take a vote in a dark closet, that's a different matter. I'm in no way an anti-Bradford proponent, at the same time I believe that there are legitimate concerns surrounding both his performance and health, not to mention his "return on investment" or where that $68+ million might have gone instead.

    Let's just hope that Bradford finally does begin to pay back a return on investment in year 3 of the Fisher era. In the meantime let's get a good prospect in here just in case.
     
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  16. Mojo Ram On double secret probation

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    This just in: Getting rid of Bradford at this point guarantees a full refund of his $50 million dollar contract to our 2014 salary cap
     
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  17. bomebadeeda Pick your poison - A sack or a smack in the mouth

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    Por Que?
     
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  18. blackbart Well-Known Member

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    The money would have gone to whomever else they might have chosen with that #1 pick because that is how the game was being played when that draft happened.

    As for his injures both happened because of breakdowns in the oline, a bad ankle sprain when someone rolled up on him and a bad fall after being chased from the pocket. I agree with drafting a developmental guy but even if they hit the lottery that guy would not be ready to take Bradford's place before 2016 if then.
     
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  19. moklerman Warner-phile

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    I didn't say you were anti-Bradford, I'm just curious who you've seen do more with less. Bradford's been with the Rams since 2010 and since 2009, their offense has been pretty anemic and IMO, not laden with talent(that can stay on the field anyway).

    You seem to be hung up on his contract so I think I have an idea about your POV. I don't agree with it, especially if your concerns are return on investment. I mean, if you think that Bradford hasn't been "worth the money" then we're looking at this from very different angles. No matter what Bradford did, he wouldn't be worth the investment so there's really no conversation there. That's why they changed how they pay rookies. None of them were ever worth it.
     
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  20. iced Well-Known Member

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    What Sam has had in his few years is pretty similar to what Bulger had during his last few seasons, minus holt.

    as the talent around the QB goes, so does the QB. When it declines, so does the qb's production.
     
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