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Take Down of Schotty's Offense and Bradford

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by RamBill, Apr 28, 2014.

  1. Rambitious1 Well-Known Member

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    This article lost me when the author wrote Sam Bradford tripped over "Chris Long's" feet..................:confused:
     
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  2. Warner4Prez Mɥɐʇ┴ɥǝHǝll¿

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    That's a sentiment that's been echoed several times. I think Fisher wants to dictate the game flow with the old ground and pound attack though.
     
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  3. PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    Then why did we start out the year like we were the Dan Fouts led San Diego Chargers?
     
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  4. Selassie I H. I. M.

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    Sam does seem to be overprotective with his passes. It's good to protect the ball, but in the NFL there are many times that the ball needs to be thrown when the WR is still covered. I have always blamed this on Spags and his one on one defensive meetings with Sam during his 1st few years in the league. Sam was taught to play too defensively by a defensive coach... The results seem to be causing Sam to seemingly rely on the check-downs far too often,,, almost like he never expects the WRs down field to really be a consistent option.

    Having said that, I must say that I do appreciate the way Sam protects the ball. There is real value in having a low interception number,,, but chances must be taken a little more than what I think Sam is comfortable with.
     
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  5. PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    I wonder how much it has to do with Bradford having faith in a guy. When he finds a "favorite" he WILL find a way to get them the ball.
     
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  6. iced Well-Known Member

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    he targeted brandon lloyd a lot...

    he was the best receiver the rams has had in 6 years - a starting caliber receiver can do wonders for a qb
     
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  7. PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    A starting #1 or any of the receiver positions?

    He targeted Amendola a lot and he is not a #1. When Danny made his annual trip to IR he then targeted Gibson quite frequently and he is not a #1 either.
     
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  8. iced Well-Known Member

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    yet look at llyod's production with Less games vs receivers with a whole season.

    And Amendola is a good receiver - if he could stay healthy...
     
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  9. PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    I agree they are good receivers but i guess my point is this.. You can have all the talent in the world but if Bradford doesnt believe in you, you wont be getting the lions share of the pass attempts.
     
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  10. iced Well-Known Member

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    I agree - but look at the players he trusted.. guys that actually get open, seperate.. clayton, lloyd, amendola.. outside tavon i doubt there's anyone he truly trusts in that kind of regard
     
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  11. Selassie I H. I. M.

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    I'm sure that is part of it too. No doubt.
     
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  12. PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    You always seem to leave out Gibson.. lol
     
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  13. iced Well-Known Member

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    he's not starting caliber nor did he perform on the levels on those guys, imo.
     
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  14. PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    Not my point. He DID receive the majority of the targets when he was the only thing left.
     
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    Amendola is likely available for a nominal pick and a $3.875M salary.
     
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  16. PhxRam The Estimated Prophet

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    Better off paying a rookie who has a better chance of being on the active roster at the end of the year.
     
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  17. max Well-Known Member

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    The author, Mike Tanier, has been a Bradford hater. I don't why, but it's been kinda weird with him for a while now.

    Last year in the Football Outsiders Almanac, he wrote this....
    Maybe Tanier doesn't even have a reason for bashing Bradford. But he sure is a jerk about it.
     
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  18. iced Well-Known Member

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    ...ok?

    my point was the difference a receiver like one of those 3 makes - they don't have to be a "#1" receiver to improve this offense, all they gotta be is starting quality.

    and how bradford (like any other qb) looks when they have talent around them vs when they don't is night and day.

    Even the wonderful Brady sure looked like crap early on the in the season without his weapons
     
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    You mean when he went 5-1 in the first 6 games?
     
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  20. iced Well-Known Member

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    are we talking about actual game play or just attributing a team stat to one individual ?
     
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