Somebody sell me on Goff

[Dan Poplawski]

I've been a Rams fan since Roman Gabriel days, so I've seen more than my share of scrub quarterbacks wearing the horns. In all those years I have been impressed with John Hadl, Jim Everett and of course Kurt Warner. As I look at this draft now I'm thinking big, strong, tall QB, that's Wentz. As I watch clips of Goff I see a small guy with happy feet throwing the ball aimlessly. Certainly seems like there are more Goff supporters than Wentz, why? What are you all seeing that I don't?

 

[DR RAM]

Calling on @jrry32

 

[Tron]

I've been a Rams fan since Roman Gabriel days, so I've seen more than my share of scrub quarterbacks wearing the horns. In all those years I have been impressed with John Hadl, Jim Everett and of course Kurt Warner. As I look at this draft now I'm thinking big, strong, tall QB, that's Wentz. As I watch clips of Goff I see a small guy with happy feet throwing the ball aimlessly. Certainly seems like there are more Goff supporters than Wentz, why? What are you all seeing that I don't?

Those happy feet you see, those are Peyton Manning feet, not "Oh shit, I'm scared I'm going to be sacked" feet.

Aimlessly? If by that you mean accurate as hell and drop dimes like they are coming off a conveyor belt then yes. Watch his bowl game.

Wentz is a big strong tall QB? Yea, great size, and he can run when pressured. Goff buys time and passes instead of running at signs of trouble. Also goff isn't small. Goff is 6'4 215 lbs. And will gain weight. Not small.

Wentz had a bigger injury history than goff(none) as well, and started less games than him.

So goff is an inch shorter and 20lbs lighter. No biggy. Goff has the amazing footwork and ball placement. He ran the offense and called audibles.

Wentz was on a team that would win the championship without him. look up how many 200 and 300 yard games he had and pass attempts, it's not many. He wasn't asked to do much. Goff was asked to do it all.

Goff is going to be amazing. And I pray the Rams take him.

I don't hate wentz and would be ok if they picked him, I just think Goff is far superior.

 

[NJRamsFan]

Keep in mind happy feet was the way they described Peyton Manning

That being said. When I watch goff I see an extremely intelligent Quarterback with the ability to read and dissect the entire field very quickly, look off defenders and deliver the ball with extraordinary accuracy and touch.

The most exciting thing to me when evaluation goff is the way he senses pressure while keeping his eyes downfield and can maneuver in the pocket as well as anyone I've seen. He gets the ball out extremely quickly and leads receivers before they are even in their break.

 

[Tron]

Keep in mind happy feet was the way they described Peyton Manning

That being said. When I watch goff I see an extremely intelligent Quarterback with the ability to read and dissect the entire field very quickly, look off defenders and deliver the ball with extraordinary accuracy and touch.

The most exciting thing to me when evaluation goff is the way he senses pressure while keeping his eyes downfield and can maneuver in the pocket as well as anyone I've seen. He gets the ball out extremely quickly and leads receivers before they are even in their break.

Don't forget he places the ball where only his WR can get it most of the time!!!! +1 for your post btw!

 

[ReddingRam]

Being a NorCal resident and a BIG Cal fan ( been to many, many games and have seen all the QB's live) I can tell you one thing about Goff..... kid does NOT get rattled. Throws a pick .... shakes it off and keeps throwing it. Takes a sack .... gets back up and stands in the pocket. Watch his eyes and facial expressions ... he never changes. Kid has got moxey!

 

[DR RAM]

Keep in mind happy feet was the way they described Peyton Manning

That being said. When I watch goff I see an extremely intelligent Quarterback with the ability to read and dissect the entire field very quickly, look off defenders and deliver the ball with extraordinary accuracy and touch.

The most exciting thing to me when evaluation goff is the way he senses pressure while keeping his eyes downfield and can maneuver in the pocket as well as anyone I've seen. He gets the ball out extremely quickly and leads receivers before they are even in their break.

He has those things that you really can't teach, pocket awareness, and anticipation. Dude is also a baller, who never gives up in a game, seen him get the crap beat out of him, and he just keeps getting up, and throwing impossible throws in tight coverage.

 

[ReddingRam]

He has those things that you really can't teach, pocket awareness, and anticipation. Dude is also a baller, who never gives up in a game, seen him get the crap beat out of him, and he just keeps getting up, and throwing impossible throws in tight coverage.

He also didn't have the luxury that prior Cal QB's have had .... a good running game. Lasko was .. meh , but compared to what Boller, Rodgers, Ayoob, Maynard, Kline, Longshore...Riley ... they all had great RB's to compliment them ... Arrington, Lynch, Best, Forsett, Vereen .... those guys could tote the rock!

 

[OnceARam]

He took a 1-11 team to a bowl game where he did nothing but throw DIMES.

Done.

 

[DR RAM]

He also didn't have the luxury that prior Cal QB's have had .... a good running game. Lasko was .. meh , but compared to what Boller, Rodgers, Ayoob, Maynard, Kline, Longshore...Riley ... they all had great RB's to compliment them ... Arrington, Lynch, Best, Forsett, Vereen .... those guys could tote the rock!

All true.

 

[Merlin]

Most important thing in a QB is accuracy. Goff is extremely accurate even when he's got rushers in his face. Feet and pocket awareness are key too. Goff great at both, his shuffle is manning-esque in allowing him to throw the ball at any point. Quick release too. Dude just has everything you want in a QB.

Wentz has the size you want, the arm, the natural mobility, tireless worker, great leader, etc. For those reasons he's probably the guy the Rams want for a "fit" to be a play action passer.

Basically IMO: IF Rams want to open up their offense Goff is the guy. If they want to go heavy play action have that power offense they've been trying to implement it's probably Wentz. Money is on Wentz probably being the guy, I have to admit it, even though I like Goff better. Wentz is the type of QB you'd see in a Steelers uni. Fish is probably gaga over him.

 

[jrry32]

Calling on @jrry32

I feel like I've spent too much time trying to do that for months. I'll just make it short and sweet: High character guy who checks all the physical boxes, has outstanding pocket presence/movement/poise under pressure, ran his offense from the LOS like a NFL QB would, uber productive on a bad team, very very very accurate, and he's crazy smart (on the field and off).

Peyton Manning is the best QB I've seen play the game...and Jared Goff has Peyton Manning potential. That's how highly I think of the guy. I don't take making that comparison lightly.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Goff is also 2 years younger than Wentz.

 

[12intheBox]

Why didn't Goff win more?

 

[DR RAM]

I feel like I've spent too much time trying to do that for months. I'll just make it short and sweet: High character guy who checks all the physical boxes, has outstanding pocket presence/movement/poise under pressure, ran his offense from the LOS like a NFL QB would, uber productive on a bad team, very very very accurate, and he's crazy smart (on the field and off).

Peyton Manning is the best QB I've seen play the game...and Jared Goff has Peyton Manning potential. That's how highly I think of the guy. I don't take making that comparison lightly.

I know man, just breaking your balls.

I'd be thrilled with either guy. We get better. We get better.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Goff is also 2 years younger than Wentz.

I didn't know this until earlier.

More physically mature? Works to his advantage.

Otherwise this is kind of a huge advantage Goff.

 

[Ramhusker]

Y'all have got me extremely torn between Wentz and Goff. I really didn't think the Rams had a shot at either of them so I haven't been paying either much mind. Now, they have the pick of the litter. I'm just enjoying the new direction at the moment and have my fingers crossed.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Why didn't Goff win more?

I've re-addressed your question to the Cal Defense.

 

[TexasRam]

Wentz has a career-high of 335 passing yards in a game where Goff averaged 330 yards per game in his career. So while playing against so-so competition, a career day for Wentz was an average day for Goff.

While Wentz looks awesome in t-shirts and shorts, Goff has shown he’s more accurate and better under pressure vs greater competition. Pro Football Focus rates Goff No. 6 in accuracy rate under pressure and No. 7 in accuracy percentage on deep passes in this draft class. Meanwhile Wentz is rated No. 29 on deep passes (20+ yards) and No. 27 in accuracy percentage when pressured.

 

[Merlin]

Goff is also 2 years younger than Wentz.

Very interesting River. Never compared their ages. 2 years definitely weighs in Goff's favor.