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Sammy Watkins - Rams Top Choice?

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by paceram, Apr 17, 2014.

  1. Alan Well-Known Member

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    While those are the guys I would prefer, as long as we get an OT, FS and CB with our first three picks, in any order, I'll be happy. I go back and forth on whether I think FS or CB is our biggest need. I think FS is our biggest structural need but we have no one to cover their slot receivers now that Finn is gone. Tough choice. Gilbert would be nice. So would Dennard.
     
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  3. Alan Well-Known Member

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    When I said in any order, that's true but the OT has to be one of the top 5.
     
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  4. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    I don't like painting yourself into a corner by saying, "I HAVE to get this, this, and this with my first 3 picks" because what happens if you take Matthews and then there are no CBs or FS available at #13 that are worth the pick...do you go away from you board and reach? That's when major mistakes are made.
     
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    I'd agree with that if I hadn't already evaluated the draft. I am unable to come up with any scenario where Dennard, Gilbert, Ha-Ha and Pryor are all gone when we're on the clock at #13. In that highly unlikely event, I'm not going to reach for someone. I'm of the opinion that we can get one pf those 4 even if we trade down a little with that pick.
     
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  6. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    That's where our opinions diverge. I'd be unhappy with three of those four at #13. And the fourth only works for me if we plan to run a certain defensive scheme.
     
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    Unhappy with those 4 players over someone else or just unhappy with them? In either case, my drafting strategy that you don't like is fine as long as there will be, in your opinion, players you like available at #13 that you don't think are reaches. I don't think it's my strategy you don't like, I think it's the players I want that you don't like.

    In any case, I'm in no way painting myself into a corner because I have plenty of options that I like that will be available. None of which would be a reach IMO. I call it having an overall plan. Without knowing the details of what you want to achieve out of this draft, I'd say that you don't seem to have an overall plan and seem to want to pick BPA regardless of need. That might work but it's not a strategy I would use with a team that is close to being a contender if not for having some major holes holding it back.
     
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    Unhappy with them at #13. Don't rate them that highly.

    I'd say it's a bit of both...although I'm sure the players heavily influence the strategy...so the probably the players since they're likely the cause.

    I have a "plan". It's my board. I work from that. You give me the pick number, the players available, and any trade options(if there are any)...and I can tell you exactly what I do in that situation. You change the parameters of that situation, I can immediately tell you what I'd do with the different parameters. It's definitely planned. It's why I spend so much time on this type of stuff...so I know exactly who/what I want come draft day.

    I just don't prefer to specify what positions I am going to address where. I let the draft dictate that because you can't control who other teams pick.

    And I definitely don't ignore need. I just don't let it dictate where I pick players. It's something I take into account when making my "board".
     
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    Good morning jrry.

    I wouldn't call that an overall plan. Like I surmised, you're just reacting to each situation by following the evaluations of the players you used when making your board. That's BPA regardless of need. While that's totally flexible, because by definition there is always a BPA available, it can lead you to not filling any of your holes. You say you don't ignore need but I don't see how that could work in real life without cheating. If you don't let it "dictate" your picks then you could easily wind up with some great players but just as many holes comong out of the draft as you had going in. Possibly you just have a really loose definition of "dictate" that approximates my "influences".

    That's where we fundamentally differ in the way we'd draft. I prefer a mixture of BPA and need with an overall flexible plan in mind.
     
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