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Sam Or Cutler?

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by rfip the second, Jan 2, 2014.

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Sam or Cutler?

  1. Sam

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  2. Cutler

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    6.6%
  1. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    I'm right there with ya. I had been saying that this year was the year he had to put it together and he looked like he might be but then got hurt. Next year is the third year in the system and he has guys who can play. Hell they made Clemens look pretty good at times so Bradford should look good next year.

    I'm willing to give him that and I hope he picks up his game. If he does I'll pull for him like I always have, if not it'll be time to move in IMO.
     
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  2. Alan Well-Known Member

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    I'm an SB supporter but I'm with you guys when it comes to finally producing or getting replaced. I have to say that he looked darn good before his injury and that was despite the, IMO, crappy play calling. If he doesn't get injured I think we'll be happy.
     
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  3. Rams and Gators Well-Known Member Pit Boss

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    I'd be happy if he could put together the season he was before he got injured, top 10 with a group that lead the league in drops, top 5 in games with Zac starting, i'd take that over 16 games. It's just the over 16 games part now.
     
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  4. CGI_Ram Hamburger Connoisseur

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    That's a lot of money, but it looks like a fair deal for the Bears by protecting them long term.
     
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  5. CGI_Ram Hamburger Connoisseur

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    Back to the real debate; Cutler vs Bradford

    I find it odd that contract dollars are part of the debate. That has nothing to do with play.

    If you judge by the performance on the field; I tend to agree with jrry's argument. In recent years the performance has been similar (despite a talent difference) therefore I see significantly more upside with Sam going forward.
     
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  6. RFIP Well-Known Member

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    As a point of refernce, this poll is being run on another board simultaniously.

    Currently here is stands 43 to 2 Sam.

    And there?

    25/18 Sam.

    It shows you the type of trolls and haters allowed to infest what was once a very good board.

    Its ok to voice your opinion either way but when one "croonie" chimes in and you can close your eyes and see the next of his posse coming and spewing venom....it erodes and divides a board.
     
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  7. Tron Fights for the User

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    damn, 25/18? Are you sure it wasn't a Bears forum? :heh:
     
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  8. El Juggernauto Your Best Friend

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    See...bunch of damn hooligans over there. :rofl:
     
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  9. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    I've always been a Jay Cutler fan. Wanted the Rams to draft him in 06 instead of trading our pick away to Denver so we could drop down and take Shorty McMidgetcorner. But there's no way, from an arm-talent standpoint, that Cutler is better than Bradford. Denver and Chicago have had better teams, and Cutler takes more risks (which sometimes translates to more rewards), but if you give them both a decent pocket, Bradford destroys Cutler.

    And it's not even close, IMO.
     
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  10. El Juggernauto Your Best Friend

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    Sam is our guy, plain and simple. And a true fan, should see his weaknesses but have faith that his ability will shine. So until 8 is no longer out there, he is my guy. In Sam I trust.
     
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  11. iced Well-Known Member

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    There are some that would apparently take Mike Glennon over Bradford :heh:
     
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  12. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    Are you sure that's not the number of interceptions that Cutler will throw in each of the next two seasons? :stirthepot:
     
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  13. CGI_Ram Hamburger Connoisseur

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    To me; the only valid question is Sam's ability to remain healthy.

    On the field, I've seen enough to know we can win with him. Sounds like Fisher agrees.
     
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  14. El Juggernauto Your Best Friend

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    I think Sams injuries are freak incidents. That dude, if nothing else, is tough as nails.
     
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  15. CGI_Ram Hamburger Connoisseur

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    I agree, he is a tough SOB. I've seen him get up from some nasty hits. But, he's got to play 16. Freak injuries or not.
     
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  16. iced Well-Known Member

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    I think this season was weird, and the NFL needs to take a long look at the new CBA agreement's practices and such..

    the amount of injuries, especially ACL tears, was unreal... I thought I remember seeing like 5 or 6 acl tears before week 1 on the regular season
     
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  17. Tron Fights for the User

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    Knowing Cutler, it's actually quite possible. His interceptions per season have gone: 5, 14, 18, 26, 16, 7, 14,12. He has lowered his interception the last few seasons, but missing a lot of games helped....Still not as bad as Eli.
     
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  18. Ramhusker Well-Known Member Pit Boss

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    Bradford for me. All the hoopla of this past season being the "acid test" on Sam remaining a Ram is not correct. 2014 is indeed that and I think the question will be answered next season. So, no, the Rams will pass on a QB in the 1st or 2nd round this draft and hand the reins back to SB in 2014. Now if things go south for SB in 2014, look for the Rams to go after someone like Marcus Mariota in the 2015 draft. But for now, "worry never helps tomorrow, it only ruins today".
     
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  19. classicpony Well-Known Member

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    I will have SAM on my team any day! Over paid.... YES but that can be cured real soon after the draft.
     
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  20. NJRamsFan Cocaine Cowboy

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    discounting? no...just saying per game stats like that have are easier to achieve when you only play 6.5 games...whats to say sam wouldn't have went into a funk and thrown more ints than tds the remaining games this year and severely dropped the aforementioned ratings..

    in addition the ydg total i was quoting was simply to show that cutler has performed as an upper echelons qb in the NFL and sam bradford has not..i have responded to many different arguments thus you may be taking certain points out of context but if you take the time to read my overall point throughout it is that cutler has outplayed bradford point blank...there is nothing but the comparison of injury shortened seasons that happen to be somewhat close yet still favor cutler to make a case for sammy b...this is not even an argument anymore..if you'd like to present a case for bradford instead of what you hope I'm all ears...such as sam is better than cutler at so and so and heres the proof...otherwise you're being unfair
     
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