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Per Adam Schefter:
"NFLs competition committee considering a rule that would eliminate chop blocks for 2016 season."

Chop blocks have to be the dirtiest move in football. It will sure save some linemens knees.
 
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About 15 years too late, but okay....
 

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Yeah, umm...how is this still a thing??
 

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Chop blocks (behind knees/engaged high-lo) have been illegal for awhile. Cut blocks (from the front of the defender) inside the tackle box should remain. I've never personally seen a knee injury cause from a legal cut block. They seem to mostly happen when a defender get high/low-ed by two OLs.
 

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Chop blocks (behind knees/engaged high-lo) have been illegal for awhile. Cut blocks (from the front of the defender) inside the tackle box should remain. I've never personally seen a knee injury cause from a legal cut block. They seem to mostly happen when a defender get high/low-ed by two OLs.
Exactly right (people often confuse cut blocks and chop blocks), and the language in that 'tweet' is kind of ambiguous. The competition committee is probably going to come up with another situation where using low blocks is going to be illegal, further cutting into the situations where you can even *use* a chop block. At some point it's going to come down to submitting a proposal to the Owners outawing all low blocks entirely, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. It would probably pass pretty easily considering how much money the Owners have tied up in player health.
 

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Exactly right (people often confuse cut blocks and chop blocks), and the language in that 'tweet' is kind of ambiguous. The competition committee is probably going to come up with another situation where using low blocks is going to be illegal, further cutting into the situations where you can even *use* a chop block. At some point it's going to come down to submitting a proposal to the Owners outawing all low blocks entirely, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. It would probably pass pretty easily considering how much money the Owners have tied up in player health.

If I'm not mistaken, the ability for RBs to use cut blocks was outlawed not that long ago, although that may just be an NCAA rule change, so the next logical step is linemen. But man, I'd hate to see it removed entirely.
 

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Chop blocks (behind knees/engaged high-lo) have been illegal for awhile. Cut blocks (from the front of the defender) inside the tackle box should remain. I've never personally seen a knee injury cause from a legal cut block. They seem to mostly happen when a defender get high/low-ed by two OLs.


There in lies the problem. If a cut block is legal and one Olinemen uses it, yet another is engaging him high, then it is a flag for an illegal chop block and that is where guys can and do get injured. Take away the legal use of the cut block and that scenario shouldn't happen because no Olinemen will be going down low. When they go low they cannot see what is happening above them anyway. They should not be rolling into knees. If they allow that they may as well allow tripping too because it is a similar tactic.
 

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You guys all think Aaron Donald is unstoppable now?

Shits touch football to him without worrying about low blocks to his knees.
 

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It’s time for the chop block to go away, completely
Posted by Mike Florio on March 2, 2016


The NFL prides itself on developing changes to the game that trickle down to the lower levels of the sport. There’s a looming adjustment to pro football that, if it occurs, will be the result of change trickling up.

The league is indeed considering getting rid of the chop block, but that’s not a new development. Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Competition Committee discusses getting rid of the chop block every year. While the Committee keeps coming closer to dumping it entirely, it hasn’t happened yet. This year, there’s a chance it will — primarily because the voices opposed to it are getting louder.

A chop block, as defined by Rule 12, Section 2, Article 3 of the NFL official rule book, occurs when one offensive player blocks a player in the thigh or lower when another offensive player has engaged the defender above the waist.

Currently, chop blocks are permitted in two situations, on running plays only. First, two offensive players who were lined up next to each other on the line of scrimmage at the snap may chop a defensive player on a running play. Second, two offensive players who were lined up more than one position away from each other on the line of scrimmage at the snap may chop a defensive player if the flow of the player is toward the block. All other chop blocks are illegal.

The technique already has been banned from all lower levels of the sport, and for good reason. Unlike a standard cut block, which the defender sees coming and has a chance to avoid, the chop block occurs when the defender already is engaged high with another blocker.

“It’s a career-ending technique that needs to be removed from the game,” one source told PFT.

Since its inception, football has allowed blocks below the waist, because that’s the only way a small guy can take a bigger player down. For decades, the NFL has been scaling back the situations in which blocks can be delivered below the waist.

The attempt to reduce concussions by extending protections for offensive players in defenseless positions has prompted plenty of defensive players to argue that they should be protected against torn ACLs, which can have a much greater impact on a player’s ability to play than a concussion does. Getting rid of the chop block, which currently is permitted only in certain narrow situations, would be the next step in an evolutionary process that could, eventually, lead to a strike zone for all players between the knees and the neck.

While no one knows quite where the process ends, it needs to continue with the chop block being wiped from the books.