Rookie Wide Receivers
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iced
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just like I disagree with this whole "Keep Sam upright" and" he hasn't had time" excuse, blaming the o-line. Which is hogwash to me - Bradford has been middle of the pack, if not slightly better, in terms sacks, hits, and pressures over the past year or 2 (not including 2011).
one constant is the receiver position - guys running wrong routes, missing hot reads, drops, lack of separation, or a combination of those - for 2 consecutive years now. Rams haven't had a receiver go over 775 yards in a long while (only team in NFC West last season with that mind you).
Gotta improve the passing game if we wanna improve the points, especially if they still want to "spread 'em out" and "unleash sammy".
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Might be true iced (although I still disagree just like I did the last time we talked about this
) but this isn't what you were saying that I disagreed with. You have some good logic behind this post and I have no problem admitting it's another way to skin the cat but your post I responded to still is still lacking any logic to me.
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It should be obvious to anyone the rams have no intention of unleashing or spreading out the offense. Snisher wants to have a balanced team. Improve the OL and you will see a much improved the passing game.
Prior to Bradford going down, it sure seemed like we were throwing the ball a lot more then running it. Especially in the redzone.
Stats could very well prove me wrong though.
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No two ways about it, they started out trying to run a spread with an option for a Richardson draw or a pass to him in the flat.
I think it depended on how Bradford read the defense, but that wasn't where it struggled. Basically, linebackers were killing the RB options, which is fine, but the offensive line wasn't holding up long enough to complete the routes they were trying to run. Of course when they did call a play up the middle, they were relying too much on Cook's blocking.
Introduce multiple tight end options and a more patient back and the rushing attack really took off.
All that said it really wasn't completely unsuccessful, and it got us some wins against some pretty good run defenses, but when Bradford went down, the option to spread the field vertically basically vanished regardless of the formation.
My point is that it will be a balanced offense, not necessarily in just pass to run ratio, but in formations as well stretching the field horizontally, which implies that they will look to improve the pass protection of the offensive line long term through the draft.
I think it depended on how Bradford read the defense, but that wasn't where it struggled. Basically, linebackers were killing the RB options, which is fine, but the offensive line wasn't holding up long enough to complete the routes they were trying to run. Of course when they did call a play up the middle, they were relying too much on Cook's blocking.
Introduce multiple tight end options and a more patient back and the rushing attack really took off.
All that said it really wasn't completely unsuccessful, and it got us some wins against some pretty good run defenses, but when Bradford went down, the option to spread the field vertically basically vanished regardless of the formation.
My point is that it will be a balanced offense, not necessarily in just pass to run ratio, but in formations as well stretching the field horizontally, which implies that they will look to improve the pass protection of the offensive line long term through the draft.
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I thought we discovered Stacy because Richardson discovered the rear-end of our O linemen?
I thought DR could have played but was just ineffective for a few games.
I swear you intentionally cloud my memory.
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Stacy started Game 5 against the Jags, after the Thursday night debacle. If you remember, Fisher told the media the Rams would be running the ball better. Bradford had 3 games with Stacy, then hurt his knee. It was against Seattle that the Rams had that monster running game (over 200 yards), but couldn't get in the endzone because to that point our running game in the redzone was ineffective. That put the game in Clemens hands ...
Against Tennessee, Stacy got the Rams first rushing TD of the season. 2 I think.
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Anyone else glossing over this list that counted about 37 picks that never really panned out?
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Nice job jrry. I think if we go into 2014 with the WR's we have, I think we'd be fine. Sure we may draft one, but I'm thinking rounds 3-7 we can find a decent guy.
Austin can be special, Bailey got more involved and played better with each game, Givens had a bad year/hoping to rebound (he and bradford seem to be on the same page unlike with Clemens), Pettis is trustworthy, and Quick is a ? still, but it appears he's slowly getting better.
Austin can be special, Bailey got more involved and played better with each game, Givens had a bad year/hoping to rebound (he and bradford seem to be on the same page unlike with Clemens), Pettis is trustworthy, and Quick is a ? still, but it appears he's slowly getting better.
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You should re-watch those games and then tell me whether you think the O-line was doing a good job of protecting Sam. See how much time he had and how clean of a pocket he had. There is no way that the actual play on the field demonstrated an effective O-line. I really don't care what that stat says. I have rewatched all the games Sam played in and many of KC's games. What I saw was a game plan that was predicated on the fact that the ball had to come out quickly and the spread was pretty much non-functional with no running lanes or site gaps.
Adding Watkins will no doubt mean a 2014 with yet another young receiver missing reads, running the wrong routes, and dropping passes as the sound of real NFL footsteps close in. Long term he might pan out as a #1 receiver. But with his stature and production through his career, there is nothing that sets him up as a future star except for his former coaches gushing over him and a bunch of non-NFL salaried persons putting him at the top of this year's WR class.