Rodney McLeod

[PhillyRam]

Eagles are 2-0 because they played two teams that very easily could be picking 1-2 in the 2017 draft.

 

[Jacobarch]

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24 Jahleel Addae SD 37 78.1
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25 Rodney McLeod PHI 23 76.8

haha this!!!! ^^

 

[Austin]

I'm another one of those who was pretty mad about losing Jenkins, and not concerned about losing Rodney.

McLeod is an average player in my opinion. He'll make plays, he'll hit, he'll miss things, he'll screw up. Plenty of guys can replace what he gave us, and it sure looks like their safety play is more than adequate right now.

Jenkins, on the other hand, is a number 1 corner, something Trumaine isn't. E.J. could become that (and I believe is that already to some degree, health allowing), and that's what we have to hope for, but as of right now, this position remains the real hole in our defense. Jenkins has been good at shutting #1 guys down for the majority of his career. Did he have some inconsistent streaks? Sure, but so will every corner. He's just got it. He's a dog, he moves on instinct. I definitely miss having him back there.

Come on E.J.....

 

[-X-]

I'm another one of those who was pretty mad about losing Jenkins, and not concerned about losing Rodney.

McLeod is an average player in my opinion. He'll make plays, he'll hit, he'll miss things, he'll screw up. Plenty of guys can replace what he gave us, and it sure looks like their safety play is more than adequate right now.

Jenkins, on the other hand, is a number 1 corner, something Trumaine isn't. E.J. could become that (and I believe is that already to some degree, health allowing), and that's what we have to hope for, but as of right now, this position remains the real hole in our defense. Jenkins has been good at shutting #1 guys down for the majority of his career. Did he have some inconsistent streaks? Sure, but so will every corner. He's just got it. He's a dog, he moves on instinct. I definitely miss having him back there.

Come on E.J.....

Would have been nice to keep Jenkins, but he wanted a pretty substantial salary that only the Giants were willing to pay (plus, they had the resources). I don't know for sure, but maybe they had to make some tough decisions in order to prepare for Donald's and others' upcoming raises. They also may have overestimated how much the corner position benefits from the front 4's ability to generate pressure. In Williams' 4-3 (and Fisher's, and Ryan's) defense, the corner is typically the beneficiary of a strong pass rush - and as such, isn't highly prioritized. After having seen Sensabaugh play, maybe they'll be forced to reevaluate that line of thinking.

 

[LACHAMP46]

Any constructive answers?

The draft.....opcorn:

 

[blackbart]

we chose to get rid of Rodney McLeod and sign Coty Sensabaugh. For a difference of about $2 million a year. I know they play different positions in the secondary but moves like this are reasons why we take 1 step forward and 1 step back. McLeod was a borderline top 10 safety in the league and the arrow was pointing up. Sensabaugh was benched and has been getting torched. I wonder if they could have saved $2 million a year somewhere else on the roster.

Those moves had nothing to do with each other.

The Rams tried to keep him but the eagles went higher than the Rams ceiling you can't pay everyone top dollar and have a budget, this isn't the federal government. They need to think ahead and make sure when players like AD come due they are paid well enough to keep them in horns. McLeod is nice but not a must keep.

 

[FRO]

Jenkins, Tru, and McLeod all hit free agency at the time. I felt like two out of the three needed to be retained. Quality CBs are hard to come by. Retaining Jenkins hurts. Guy was hitting his prime.

 

[Zaphod]

I liked Jenkins but he wanted too much. Sensabaugh was just a terrible signing. Hill looked good though and I guess we'll see about Gaines.

And Cody Davis I'm glad is getting some action now that McLeod is gone. But I've accepted that conventional isn't normal with Williams. Heck I didn't hate on McLeod but I wouldn't delude myself into thinking he's a top ten safety.

 

[Amitar]

Losing McLeod was huge and Dxmissle is 100% correct. And the Rams miss Jenkins bigtime!
And saying the Rams secondary is a work in progress is ridicules. It is YEAR FIVE and it SHOULD be there by now. No excuses.
Ramtooth16, you are not a negative nanny you are saying it like it is. It is just some people on this board cannot handle the truth. The more I read this board the more people I see that cannot look objectively at the Rams.
Heck the Patriots are winning with a 3rd string QB again the Texans. And here are the Rams who can't even score a touchdown.
At the Rams have one bright spot is Todd Gurley. The guy is a great RB, just fantastic.

 

[Mojo Ram]

Any constructive answers? I think we gave away a really good player over what amounts to a backup DL contract. Frustrating to say the least. He wasn't Earl Thomas but was very similar.

We couldn't retain everyone in FA, unfortunately. No team can. As teams get better across the roster, eventually decisions have to be made and talent gets away.

We don't even know if Jenkins wanted to stay here. Same with McLeod. There's the money factor and there's also the "I want to be the man somewhere else" factor to consider.

 

[Angry Ram]

We should have locked him up way before that. Instead of giving Allpro WR Tavon Austin $42 million over 4 years. We could have offered him a little less.

I'd rather see them resign the guy that scored 10 TD last season than a replaceable safety.

 

[Mojo Ram]

The more I read this board the more people I see that cannot look objectively at the Rams.

Yeah that works both ways on both extremes. You should know this. You haven't had a positive thing to say since....never?


But go on talking about objectivity. I'm all ears.

 

[-X-]

Losing McLeod was huge and Dxmissle is 100% correct. And the Rams miss Jenkins bigtime!
And saying the Rams secondary is a work in progress is ridicules. It is YEAR FIVE and it SHOULD be there by now. No excuses.
Ramtooth16, you are not a negative nanny you are saying it like it is. It is just some people on this board cannot handle the truth. The more I read this board the more people I see that cannot look objectively at the Rams.
Heck the Patriots are winning with a 3rd string QB again the Texans. And here are the Rams who can't even score a touchdown.
At the Rams have one bright spot is Todd Gurley. The guy is a great RB, just fantastic.

That's lovely. Taking a swipe at the entire board because some people don't view the situation through the same truth lens. OBJECTIVELY, the Rams' defense is a works in progress because they're fitting new personnel into spots vacated during the offseason. Vacancies generated by losing free agents to other teams - which, objectively and truthfully, happens to most teams with good players on them. Truthfully, there's a cap in place that necessitates this kind of loss/gain of personnel. Objectively, they haven't nailed down the best possible personnel groupings. Truthfully, they've played two games. Truthfully, they beat the Seahawks with that "works in progress" defense. Objectively, it could get better. Truthfully, the Patriots have schemes in place that have been there for decades. Truthfully, their QB did about as much as any 3rd string QB could do, but truthfully, he didn't win the game single-handedly. Objectively, the Rams' schemes are very good on defense and horrible on offense. Truthfully, they couldn't afford to keep Jenkins, re-sign Johnson, extend Brockers, set aside cap space for Donald, and compensate for the money paid when they extended Quinn. Because, again, truthfully, there's only so much money.

 

[BonifayRam]

The draft.....opcorn:

Watch it LACHAMP46 your treading on the edge of the cliff here.....:fuelfire: You know that I wanted to draft a corner with our 1st round 2016 selection. Hope we use our very high second round in 2017 for a corner too. I was happy to have been able to retain CB Trumaine Johnson for one more extra season before he departs. That's why the draft selections are sooooo important.

Five elements come into play here on this subject of the loss of JJ & Rod . The below elements have taken place since the 2015 UFA'cy:

#1- If UFA $$$ Coty Sensabaugh turned out to be @ least a average decent starting NFL....

#2-If starting CB EJ Gaines had made a healthy return from his early serious pre season injury of 2015.

#3-If corner EJ would have proved himself ready & been able to play himself back into playing condition.

#4-If 2014 & 2015 back up & sometime starter CB Marcus Roberson has put in the proper effort in OTA's, Training Camp & pre season to be once again our top reserve outside corner.

#5 If the Rams had not traded away four very high draft selections in the 2016 draft, several of those picks could be playing in our secondary now & way into the future as starters.
But these FIVE present Ram negatives have caused some laminations & caused to question the but once again I think it was the lay of the NFL land back in March..... it would be a very positive & different Rams secondary of those five things had turned out different. We Would have not seen a thread like this. Oh well, water way under the bridge & out to sea..............

In truth the Rams have yet to reap any of the rewards of the 2016 draft ....while most other teams are in full enjoyment & reaping great positive rewards. Goff, Cooper, Thomas & Hemingway have yet to see the field. Forrest has no stats & Higbee has 1 rec for 2 yds.

 

[Shoman01]

Coty can't sensetheball.

 

[Rams43]

Two things...

1) If Gaines can return healthy (might be a big "if" I know), then Jenkins will scarcely be missed. There, I said it. Plus, Hill is impressing me as a future potential starter. The kid is a player. Now, if TruJo walks next year, then we will probably have to use a premium pick on a CB that they like. But that is a bridge that we won't have to cross until '17.

2) McLeod was a nice deep safety, but hardly irreplaceable. So I don't quite get the angst by some at his loss. I'm pretty comfortable with our S situation right now. Besides, our front 7 makes our Safeties jobs much easier than on most teams.

Anyway, as X has already said, they can't keep everybody every year. Cap won't allow it. We've gotta deal with that fact. Gotta keep that incoming talent pipeline full and develop the youngsters as best the coaches can.

 

[OnceARam]

Should have just paid Jenkins, but the different position factor is major, however, at this point I would have signed anybody other then Coty Sensabaugh, who cannot cover a bed.

"cannot cover a bed"

:rimshot:

 

[thirteen28]

Would have loved to have kept both Jenkins and McLeod, but as others have said upthread, there is only so much cap space, and we have to get ready to keep guys like Donald, etc. Furthermore, I give this staff a lot of the benefit of the doubt on DB's, as they have hit far more than they've missed. Don't forget that McLeod was an UDFA who they developed into somebody that could command what he did on the open market. So what makes you think they can't do it with someone else? As for losing Jenkins, a healthy EJ Gaines (6th round pick) will largely alleviate that loss.

They may have missed on Sensebaugh, but it's still early. I'll give them a little more time before I totally give up on him, but at least his contract was team friendly. Plus, it looks like they are doing a pretty good job of developing Troy Hill.

 

[Corbin]

I thought losing McLeod was our worst off season loss this last year as it turns out Jenkins was. With that being said Alexzander is making me forget McLeod and I'm sure EJ coming back will help me forget about Jenkins risky ass.

Demoff knew we would have some people to pay here soon like Donald, Brockers, Tavon, Barron etc.

I really think EJ will get himself on track once hes back from injury and Sensashit will be a sorry memory!

 

[OnceARam]

I'm another one of those who was pretty mad about losing Jenkins, and not concerned about losing Rodney.

McLeod is an average player in my opinion. He'll make plays, he'll hit, he'll miss things, he'll screw up. Plenty of guys can replace what he gave us, and it sure looks like their safety play is more than adequate right now.

Jenkins, on the other hand, is a number 1 corner, something Trumaine isn't. E.J. could become that (and I believe is that already to some degree, health allowing), and that's what we have to hope for, but as of right now, this position remains the real hole in our defense. Jenkins has been good at shutting #1 guys down for the majority of his career. Did he have some inconsistent streaks? Sure, but so will every corner. He's just got it. He's a dog, he moves on instinct. I definitely miss having him back there.

Come on E.J.....

He also lost is a lot of games. Like against the 9ers at the end of last season when he over played a ball to Bolden. He constantly put himself in bad positions hoping to make up for it with his athleticism. Sometimes he did. Sometimes he didn't.

A CB1 isn't a gambler, especially when he doesn't have safety help on top.

He was a liability. And there is a reason he is gone.