Rodger Saffold placed on injured reserve

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Promoting Williams over Battle is a little disconcerting. When we got him in the supplemental draft you'd think he'd be a go for at least depth by this time. Does this speak volumes for how undeveloped he is? (n)

I think from the get go we were told they planned to redshirt him. So, yeah he was raw from the get go.

Let's hope they can bring that talent out for next year.
 

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Promoting Williams over Battle is a little disconcerting. When we got him in the supplemental draft you'd think he'd be a go for at least depth by this time. Does this speak volumes for how undeveloped he is? (n)

But Williams is on the roster while Battle is on the practice squad.
 

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I think it's time to put Cody Wichmann in the starting lineup. If we're going to go young, we might as well go all the way.
 

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Read some of the thread to catch up. It could be a good thing to shut Saffold and Kendrick down if they were playing hurt and not as effective as they can be when healthy.

The IR move, I believe anyway, was done now to improve the chances of Saffold being healthy enough to open up options as far as moving/cutting him and his salary come spring 2016. The Rams can't afford to continue to pay Saffold to be in the infirmary. I feel bad for the guy but he just can't seem to stay healthy. It's time to move forward without him.

I have supported Saffold but you have a great point. It's wait and see for me as far as the Rams getting the line together. Let the best ones play.
 

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Kubiak isn't in Baltimore anymore. They were arguably the best OL in football in 2014.

So, you are saying it is the coaching? I agree.


Promoting Williams over Battle is a little disconcerting. When we got him in the supplemental draft you'd think he'd be a go for at least depth by this time. Does this speak volumes for how undeveloped he is? (n)

Williams was looking good in camp supposedly. I thought he looked better than Robinson in preseason action but he wasnt exactly facing first stringers. Still the Rams must have seen something hey liked.

Battle is raw and Snead knew it. However his athleticism is intriguing. The best case s snaring is that between the three OLT candidates one emerges as a top quality NFL OLT. Then one O's depth and the other changes position or is traded. With the lack of talented OLinemen in the NFL maybe Snead figures that Battle can develop into a good OLT and then be traded for a high pick. A good OLT would bring a lot more than a Guard. The gamble was a fifth. If the can turn a fifth into a second or third, I would be happy.
 

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Well, the guy gives his all. He plays hurt a lot. I wish him a speedy recovery from surgery. I hope he is back next year to compete. I don't think it will hurt our OL too much since we do have Reynolds. It may even speed up the development of the young guys just by getting more reps. We surely can't afford anyone else on the OL going down though. We should get him a Get Well card going as well.
 

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Seem most agree that it may be best to just plug in the vet. For now. The left side OL remains intact and its on their shoulders to gear up and produce and do a good job. Garrett is a vet of many yrs and different teams. Garrett IMO is more of a leader than Saffold.

Boudreau now can get Wichmann And Rhaney trained up to be the next 6th OLer. Problem is that Saffold was also the main back up to GRob at OLT. If it were me I would get Cody Wichmann ready to be our future ORG. Williams now has to be prepared for real to play if GRob is unable to Mann the OLT post.
I tend to lean this way.
I also think we need to nix the Z blocking and get back to basics with a heavy dose of P blocking. Let these kids do what they do best, just maul the guy in front of them without having to think about it. If we still struggle, A FB to clear some holes wouldn't be a bad idea either.
Maybe later in the season, slowly bring in some Z blocking schemes.
 

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I dont think you move Saffold. Get him repaired and healthy and he'll be an asset next year. I know alot were down on him and his ranking is low but I never figured he'd be ranked that given a full season of play. Unfortunately, we wont get to find out. But I do know he has always done an admirable job and I dont feel his salary is as crippling as his injury history.
 

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With Saffold out, it's Reynolds' turn
• By Jim Thomas

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/foot...cle_8109b720-2080-553d-bc00-8efccd6bc8f8.html

Last March in free agency, the Rams signed Garrett Reynolds for moments like this. Backup guard, backup tackle and he was ready to step in and start at a moment’s notice if somebody went down.

When right guard Rodger Saffold suffered a right shoulder injury last Sunday in Green Bay, Reynolds figured he might be starting for a week or two. On Thursday, “a week or two” became most likely the rest of the season when the Rams placed Saffold on the season-ending injured reserve list.

After being checked out by Rams doctors, Saffold received a second opinion from his own specialist. According to coach Jeff Fisher, both sets of doctors agreed that undergoing surgery right now was the best course of action to repair labrum damage in Saffold’s right shoulder.

“You know, he was willing to try to play, but inevitably it’s gonna come out again when we talk about the condition of his shoulder,” Fisher said. “So we just felt like career-wise and future-wise, it’s best to get it fixed.”

Fisher said the surgery will take place “in the next couple of days.”

Saffold fought through a similar injury last season to his left shoulder, wearing a brace and playing in pain when that shoulder popped out, putting off surgery until the end of the season. He decided against doing that this time around.

By having the surgery done now, it’s expected that Saffold should be healthy by late February or early March, meaning he’ll miss little or no offseason work.

With Saffold done for the year, Reynolds becomes the most experienced offensive lineman on the roster in terms of career starts – with 27. At age 28, Reynolds already was the oldest O-lineman on the team – 11 months older than Saffold.

Reynolds is from Knoxville, and speaks with a Tennessee drawl. But he played his college ball at North Carolina, and as a senior Reynolds was teammate to a talented Tar Heels freshman named Robert Quinn. The better part of a decade later, they are teammates again with the Rams.

“Kind of a flashback,” Reynolds said. “It’s kind of funny where life takes you.”

Indeed. Just five games into his first season in St. Louis, life has taken Reynolds into the Rams’ starting lineup at right guard.

He spent the first five seasons of his NFL career with the Atlanta Falcons, with Paul Boudreau his position coach there in 2009-2011.

“He grew up playing behind Harvey Dahl, so he learned the right way,” said Boudreau, who came in with Fisher as Rams O-line coach in 2012.

The now-retired Dahl, who played in St. Louis after a stint in Atlanta, was a tough-minded player who protected his quarterbacks and running backs, even it meant playing outside the lines from time to time.

(Think back to 2013 when Dahl went after Carolina safety Mike Mitchell after Mitchell celebrated a sideline hit that knocked quarterback Sam Bradford out of the game and out for the season with a knee injury.)

Well, Reynolds has some of that spirit in him. Go after his quarterback or running back too vehemently, and Reynolds will, uh, clean up the pile.

“It comes with the territory, I reckon,” Reynolds said.

Fisher said the line seemed to settle down when Reynolds entered the Green Bay game following Saffold’s injury. That that happened probably is not mere coincidence. Because of his experience and past association with Boudreau, Reynolds was positioned as a leader of the line almost from the moment he set foot in Rams Park.

“He knows me, and he knows when I’m (upset),” Boudreau said early in training camp. “He knows when we’re doing OK. So he’s kind of been my helper as far as getting ’em together off the field.

“He’ll say, ‘We’re all going out, we’re gonna have pizza and beer. And if you don’t show up, you’re gonna pay the bill.’ ”

After spending the 2014 season with Detroit, the chance to hook up again with Boudreau was a major reason why Reynolds signed with the Rams.

“It’s easier to come in and understand the scheme,” Reynolds said. “Even though it’s gonna be a little bit different, you can relate it back to, ‘hey, it’s something I did a couple years ago.’”

Reynolds has started at guard and tackle during his NFL career, but most of his experience has come at right guard. When he signed with the Rams, he figured his job description would be backup/fill-in starter.

“Nothing was ever said to me, but that’s kinda the person I’ve always been,” Reynolds said. “Wherever you need me, throw me in, and I’ll be ready to roll.”

Added to that in St. Louis, Reynolds said, “is to be the older guy and try to bring some these young guys along.”

As for having a settling influence on the younger players, Reynolds said: “I just get in there and remind guys to stay calm and let’s keep rolling. It’s a long game, and just stick together. That’s the most important thing: just stay together and keep pushing.”

In terms of his blocking, Reynolds more than held his own once he replaced Saffold at Lambeau Field.

“He played well,” Fisher said.

Fisher also likes what he sees from rookies Cody Wichmann and Andrew Donnal. Eventually one of them could take over the starting spot. Perhaps next season if the team decides to part ways with Saffold. But for the foreseeable future, it’s Reynolds’ time.

“You never want to see anybody, especially any of your buddies, go down,” Reynolds said. “But that’s part of the game. I’m looking forward to playing,”
 

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Gurley's yards are skewed by his big runs that are hiding that he's getting stuffed pretty often. I agree the line isn't as awful as some are saying, but the buzzkill is the lack of consistency.
That was the MO on Barry Sanders too.
IMO that's an inconsequential analysis. 150 yds/gm is 150 yds/gm.
We have a RB who is feared and dangerous. That creates problems for defenses all over the field, especially when/if we have a vertical threat WR.
 

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That was the MO on Barry Sanders too.
IMO that's an inconsequential analysis. 150 yds/gm is 150 yds/gm.
We have a RB who is feared and dangerous. That creates problems for defenses all over the field, especially when/if we have a vertical threat WR.

Agreed. Plus, yardage is always going to be skewed unless you have a HB that cannot break big runs. And even then, if you have an inconsistent or poor OL...that HB is likely not going to be churning out 4.5 to 5 yards per carry if he can't break big runs. Unless he's a special breed like Marshawn Lynch where he refuses to be tackled.

The thing is that Gurley was actually churning out yardage well against Green Bay even before the big run. As I recall, he had something like 24 carries for 92 yards before the long run. That's not 6 yards per carry but prior to breaking a 60ish yard run, that's pretty impressive with the way our OL struggled.

Let's be honest...we haven't had a homerun hitter at HB since Faulk. And it seems to me that Gurley can grind out the yardage when we need him to and break the long runs when he gets a lane. I was watching Atlanta's OL against New Orleans and I couldn't help thinking, "Man, if they had Gurley, he'd have already ripped off multiple 50+ yard runs with the holes these guys are getting."

I loved SJ but he wasn't a homerun hitter. Great athlete but I don't think he had that elusiveness in the open-field that you need.

I know I eventually that somebody is going to have to bottle Gurley up for an entire game. Expecting him to stay between 5.5 and 6 yards per carry is unrealistic. But it just seems like such a difficult feat. It's like Jamaal Charles. All it takes is one play for him to go from 24 runs for 90 yards to 25 runs for 150 yards.

What did Gale Sayers used to say? "Give me 18 inches of daylight..."
 

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Fisher said. "So we just felt like for career-wise, future-wise, it's best to get it fixed.

Translation - let's eat this year's salary, get him healthy enough so we can ship him out next season before we blow any more money on him.

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