Rams want Tavon to be more like Desean Jackson

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www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/357643/Rams-want-Tavon-to-be-more-DeSean-Jackson-ish

Rams want Tavon to be more DeSean Jackson-ish
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The Rams want Tavon Austin to become more of a downfield threat similar to DeSean Jackson.

Easier said than done. Jackson is one of the premier deep threats the sport has seen over the last decade. While not big at 5'10/175, Jackson still plays bigger than the 5'9/174 Austin. Both ran similar forties as straight-line speedsters, with Jackson blazing a 4.35 coming out of Cal and Austin clocking a 4.34 out of West Virginia. New Rams coach Sean McVay obviously got a ton out of Jackson in Washington and hopes to develop Austin into more as a receiver after Jeff Fisher's staff seemed clueless how to use him, using Austin more as a gimmick.
Source: ESPN.com
May 5 - 12:19 PM
 

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I think we will see more production out of Tavon this year. new head coach, lots of new WR's, new things to worry about. yep, i think we will see him fight for his time in the spotlight.
 

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And it shouldn't be hard now that Fisher and his staff is gone. It's like giving a Neanderthal a lighter and expecting him to start a fire within 10 minutes. Isn't going to happen bruh.
 

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Tavon is more than capable of filling that role.
The only question I have is,Does Tavon love the game
enough to put the work in that would be required?
I personally think he,Gurley and some others have been letting
the wonders of LA distract them from what's important.

EDIT: I know Tavon has heard the "over paid" remarks
being made concerning his contract.
I hope he can use that to inspire him to get to work
and prove everyone,including me, wrong.
 

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He'll have a better year or be cut under the new HC. I don't think McSnead will make the same mistake Fisher made when it comes to holding onto or letting go of offensive talent
 

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I don't think Tavon isn't putting in work. He may post pictures on social media of him dressed up and having a good time, but let's not forget that there are 24 hours in a day, and he's in his early twenties. Just because he doesn't post about himself training, doesn't mean he's not training. Follow Stedman. I've seen videos of them running routes in the sand quite a bit.
 

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When all he runs is curls and idiotic short routes that defenses can sit on and predict based on tendencies per formation it makes things really easy on defenders. I knock the guy routinely for his weaknesses, but that said I am convinced the "high school" offense didn't do him any favors.

He needs to be running deep routes mixed in with healthy averages. If defenders have to worry about him running past them it changes things and will open up the underneath stuff.
 

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There is a little more pressure on Tavon now.

We've seen the big play potential. Optimistic the rest of the team is more configured for offensive success.
 

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A few other things that I didn't note earlier.

If Tavon ever gets a clean release, there's not many players in the league that can run with him. His get off is going to be key.

Under Schotty, he ran quite a bit of deeper routes, a few were bad throws, a few went for six and were called back. It seems like after Schotty left, they forgot that Tavon has speed and focused on giving him nothing but screens. There's absolutely nothing he can do when you have a corner on him and a LB with his eye on him watching for it. I don't care if you had Marshall Faulk lined up as a receiver, if all he ran were screens, he wouldn't have done much either.

Lastly, if Tavon is going to be in more of a Desean type of roll, Kupp is going to take quite a bit of snaps from the slot.
 

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When all he runs is curls and idiotic short routes that defenses can sit on and predict based on tendencies per formation it makes things really easy on defenders. I knock the guy routinely for his weaknesses, but that said I am convinced the "high school" offense didn't do him any favors.

He needs to be running deep routes mixed in with healthy averages. If defenders have to worry about him running past them it changes things and will open up the underneath stuff.
Like you said. I blame those routes the Old Coaching Staff had him running for his less than Elite Numbers! I expect a lot more from him with the New HC, and the way he used Jackson!(y);):D
 

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Another player that was hurt by bad play calls and coaching . He's not the receiver Jackson is , but Tavon was never given the chance to run more than a few routes. I'm sure mcvay will show him a few things and he will be getting open down field alot more.

Tavon is too gifted to not make at least one 40 yard play in every game
 

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A few other things that I didn't note earlier.

If Tavon ever gets a clean release, there's not many players in the league that can run with him. His get off is going to be key.

Under Schotty, he ran quite a bit of deeper routes, a few were bad throws, a few went for six and were called back. It seems like after Schotty left, they forgot that Tavon has speed and focused on giving him nothing but screens. There's absolutely nothing he can do when you have a corner on him and a LB with his eye on him watching for it. I don't care if you had Marshall Faulk lined up as a receiver, if all he ran were screens, he wouldn't have done much either.

Lastly, if Tavon is going to be in more of a Desean type of roll, Kupp is going to take quite a bit of snaps from the slot.

I read somewhere McVay uses a lot of stack formations and that is the easiest way to get somebody off the line untouched. It would also be nice if Tavon got off the line untouched without that aid. But I think we can expect better scheme, plan and hopefully execution offensively under McVay. Hell he probably could have made last years offensive players remarkably better. I gotta believe they're fine with Kupp in the slot
 

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Thats what i always thought...Tavon MUST get better at route running and getting separation from DBs. His physical limitations are obvious but his a WR that we drafted number 8 overall and has not produced like a #1 or even #2 wideout. IMO he has not come close to living up to his draft status. I always wondered why Fisher and Co. never utilitized him as a deep threat and its very possible that he may never develop into that Desean Jackson that i thought he would be. IMO if this staff doesn't get him going, he's gone next offseason ESPECIALLY considering that PHAT contract he's got.
 

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Blame the coaches and whatever all you want, Tavon is himself at fault for his lack of downfield threat. He gets zero separation and his routes, even after 4 years at the pro level are sloppy at best. He doesn't have the catch radius or size to beat guys at the point of attack, and unless the ball is in his hands he is less than a threat.

Can he change that? Sure, but the route running HAS to get cleaner. He makes it easy on DBs to cover him.
 

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A few other things that I didn't note earlier.

If Tavon ever gets a clean release, there's not many players in the league that can run with him. His get off is going to be key.

Under Schotty, he ran quite a bit of deeper routes, a few were bad throws, a few went for six and were called back. It seems like after Schotty left, they forgot that Tavon has speed and focused on giving him nothing but screens. There's absolutely nothing he can do when you have a corner on him and a LB with his eye on him watching for it. I don't care if you had Marshall Faulk lined up as a receiver, if all he ran were screens, he wouldn't have done much either.

Lastly, if Tavon is going to be in more of a Desean type of roll, Kupp is going to take quite a bit of snaps from the slot.
The approach the last two years was certainly conservative with Tavon. The throws seemed more designed to protect the QB....for their liabilities and from the O line....and then hoping against hope TA would slip a tackle and go. TA doesn't break tackles. I think used the right way he can certainly beca dynamic guy.
 

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Blame the coaches and whatever all you want, Tavon is himself at fault for his lack of downfield threat. He gets zero separation and his routes, even after 4 years at the pro level are sloppy at best. He doesn't have the catch radius or size to beat guys at the point of attack, and unless the ball is in his hands he is less than a threat.

Can he change that? Sure, but the route running HAS to get cleaner. He makes it easy on DBs to cover him.

Yea, Tavon bares some of the blame, but he's also limited by scheme and play-calling like any other player.

Tavon needs to become a better route runner. I'm hopeful that Woods and Kupp can assist him. He needs to do a better job of disguising his routes. He also needs to be more reliable with his hands.

That all said, I feel terrible for the guy. He was a mismatched part in the last scheme with incompetent coaches. It would be like taking young Mike Vick, telling him to run a WCO, and demanding he not leave the pocket for any reason.(actually, Jim Mora Jr. tried to do some of that :LOL:)