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<a class="postlink" href="http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/93277/rams-starting-to-form-an-identity" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/ ... n-identity</a>

By Nick Wagoner | ESPN.com

HOUSTON – It was only 18 days ago that the St. Louis Rams were coming off two blowout losses and searching for anything that could remotely be defined as a team identity.

The minimum expectation for any team under the tutelage of coach Jeff Fisher is an innate toughness, the ability to deal with problems head on. Such toughness -- which seemed to build over the course of the 2012 season -- appeared to have vanished after the Sept. 26 drubbing at the hands of San Francisco.

A win against Jacksonville the following week showed that the Rams could do what they needed to against an inferior opponent. But a team personality that the Rams could lean on when times were tough still had not bubbled to the surface.

They aren’t there yet, the personality is still in the developmental stages, but for the first time in the 2013 season, the Rams gave a glimpse of what they hope the finished product will become with a resounding 38-13 win against the Houston Texans on Sunday.


The Rams have come together since a pair of big losses and are showing a newfound toughness.
Now sitting at 3-3, the Rams seem to have dug themselves out of their early-season hole, and all things remain possible.

“It was important to us to speak life into our team, after the Thursday game [against the 49ers],” Fisher said. “I think we did that. We sent them off and gave them a little break and brought them back and just started over.”

On Sunday, the Rams showed plenty of signs that their toughness was back, that they could stand toe-to-toe with a physical team such as Houston and not back down. It served them well in 2012 against division foes Seattle and San Francisco, and it did again against the Texans.

Whether it was hard-nosed rookie running back Zac Stacy pushing the pile and picking up yards after contact or quarterback Sam Bradford standing tall in the pocket to take a hard hit from Houston linebacker Brooks Reed as he delivered a strike to tight end Jared Cook for 34 yards to set up a touchdown, the Rams refused to let Houston pummel them.

There was no better example of the attitude the Rams are looking to engender than the reaction of guard Harvey Dahl when Texans linebacker Brian Cushing jumped on Bradford after he slid for a 4-yard gain in the second quarter. Dahl immediately popped up and got in Cushing’s face, with not-so-pure intentions clearly on his mind, before tackle Jake Long restrained him from acquiring offsetting penalties.

It was a small thing in a game of big plays, but when forming an identity, it can be the small things that count the most.

“That’s what I love about Harvey, that’s what I love about all those guys upfront,” Bradford said. “I know they’ve got my back. To see something like that happen, I think that’s a big step for this team, a big step for this offense, and I couldn’t be happier or more proud to play for those guys up front.”

That same mentality was evident in the other phases of the game as well.

On special teams, the penalties mostly evaporated and the unit found a way to score one of the rarer touchdowns in football: a fumble return while covering a kickoff. The play happened because safety Rodney McLeod hit returner Keshawn Martin with reckless abandon and linebacker Daren Bates – fresh off running over a would-be blocker – was simply looking for something else to hit.

The Rams' defense struggled to stop Houston running back Arian Foster from ripping off big chunks of yards, but they managed to find ways to keep the Texans out of the end zone and hold them to field goals. They also created three more takeaways after grabbing three last week.

“We knew the key to this game was holding them out of the end zone and finding ways to get turnovers,” middle linebacker James Laurinaitis said. “We knew they were going to get yards. They are tough to defend. We just needed to find ways to keep them out of the end zone and get the ball back for our offense.”

The fact that the Rams are the league’s youngest team is not lost on anyone; they were last year as well. They don’t and won’t use it as an excuse for any failures, but after their successes they can point to it and realize there’s still plenty of growth to come.

After the loss to San Francisco, it was fair to wonder if the Rams’ season would be lost by the time they started to progress again. Fisher told his team that it was starting fresh, that the first four games of the season were nothing more than an extended preseason.

The message was received loud and clear, and now, though the team’s identity is still far from formed, that personality is starting to peek from behind the curtain.

“I believe if you want a head coach in a fistfight, I’ve got Jeff Fisher,” defensive end Chris Long said. “Even in a really tough time, and the last couple weeks have been really tough trying to find an identity as a team to try to fall back on like we thought we were building last year, having him as our head coach and knowing the guys that he’s brought in, the right type of people to help you dig out of this hole and to get to .500, the sky is the limit for us. It’s one game. Now, we’ve got to duplicate this next week.”
 

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A win i was really up for, this is the kind of game we needed, offense clicking and D bending but not breaking. woot woot 3-3
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It was refreshing to see Dahl stand up for Bradford. Hope to see more of the same as the season continues.
 

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iBruce said:
It was refreshing to see Dahl stand up for Bradford. Hope to see more of the same as the season continues.

Same here. I love hearing this;

There was no better example of the attitude the Rams are looking to engender than the reaction of guard Harvey Dahl when Texans linebacker Brian Cushing jumped on Bradford after he slid for a 4-yard gain in the second quarter. Dahl immediately popped up and got in Cushing’s face, with not-so-pure intentions clearly on his mind, before tackle Jake Long restrained him from acquiring offsetting penalties.

It was a small thing in a game of big plays, but when forming an identity, it can be the small things that count the most.

“That’s what I love about Harvey, that’s what I love about all those guys upfront,” Bradford said. “I know they’ve got my back. To see something like that happen, I think that’s a big step for this team, a big step for this offense, and I couldn’t be happier or more proud to play for those guys up front.”
 

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just wanted to say i did not see OP put LINK to this article in another thread. But it is worth saying twice, and a win like this on the road, totally cool
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I don't think we can underestimate how bright our future is with such a young core of players. We have to make some tough vet decisions in the off-season (Dahl, Wells, Finn), but quite frankly we may be able to address those holes through the draft.
I believe we are headed in the right direction.
 

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I simply love the fire that a ORG Harvey Dahl brings. I also think that OLG Shelley Smith is one fast outstanding heat seeking missile when he pulls! Rams do not pull much but when Shotty sends in Shelley Smith you will see several big time OLG pulls that created nice holes for Stacy. Jake Long sure appears to be an outstanding run blocking OLT who knew??? :zomg1: Even Chris Williams proved to be effective in moving his man. When Barksdale & Dahl can handle the best left side DL in the NFL named JJ Watt for most of the entire game????I think we need to let that sink in.... :2u: Where is Saffold going to play???? What replace Barksdale??? :bummed: The OL seems to be coming around with this traditional offensive change from a majority pass blocking OL to a run blocking OL. Kudos to FB/TE Harkey & Kendricks blocking & red zone play of TD's.

On the negative side Shotty just can not figure out how to use two very special offensive players. If the Rams are indeed forming a winning identity its MOSTLY without our two biggest 2013 offensive additions in pass catchers Cook & Austin. So a very healthy top ten draft choice Tavon Austin saw only four snaps yesterday?? I have seen enough of DR between the tackles Its time for more Stacy & Cunningham.

In truth IMO its all about Sam Bradford where we see once again its the protection & the balance of a running game that is vital for this winning Ram team. Its not all about those nice speedy cute pretty glimmering offensive toys for Sam Bradford but the big slower short nasty ugly no-name guys.

The stats are really nothing to brag on but it is a big sniff of what could come if the Rams can continue to move toward improving on this new path.
 

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iBruce said:
It was refreshing to see Dahl stand up for Bradford. Hope to see more of the same as the season continues.
Beat me to it!

It was great to see Dahl get pissed at Cushing and look like he was gonna pound his head in. On a team desperate for fire and individuality a Turleyesque move like that brought happiness to my entire being.

These guys have each other's backs and that's the first step to being a better team.
 

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BonifayRam said:
So a very healthy top ten draft choice Tavon Austin saw only four snaps yesterday??

Is that true? :shock:

Wonder what the deal is? We have GOT to find a way to use this man!
 

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I'm fine with the bandwagon, but next week we hit a team that isn't down our last two opponents have been and a big part of success in this league depends upon keeping them what are down in their place,ask Denver , but real progress is taking the air out of a full ballon.

Gotta get on the winning side of the ledger or the "identity " is Dr J /Mr H

BTW it was great to open up a can of whoopass, gotta do that once in a while just to prove you can.

Next week bring da Kryptonite :tooth: cuz Superman thinks he all dat.
 

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CGI_Ram said:
BonifayRam said:
So a very healthy top ten draft choice Tavon Austin saw only four snaps yesterday??

Is that true? :shock:

Wonder what the deal is? We have GOT to find a way to use this man!

Pleases me to death,I have for some time thought we were expecting him to carry this team ,our run game can't help but be better with Cook in the slot and Quick and Pettis out wide.
Austin in his time,don't force it.
I was telling someone yesterday I'd love to see Austin running the stretch play where he had to make one cut and go,FWIW not doing that has really hurt his effectiveness.

I'd way the hell rather that TD went to Quick yesteday,he needed it
 

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CGI_Ram said:
BonifayRam said:
So a very healthy top ten draft choice Tavon Austin saw only four snaps yesterday??

Is that true? :shock:

Wonder what the deal is? We have GOT to find a way to use this man!

Thanks for the linkage Bonifay:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8402/tavon-austin" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8402/tavon-austin</a>

Tavon Austin played on just 4-of-47 snaps in Sunday's win at Houston.
 

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BonifayRam said:
I simply love the fire that a ORG Harvey Dahl brings. I also think that OLG Shelley Smith is one fast outstanding heat seeking missile when he pulls! Rams do not pull much but when Shotty sends in Shelley Smith you will see several big time OLG pulls that created nice holes for Stacy. Jake Long sure appears to be an outstanding run blocking OLT who knew??? :zomg1: Even Chris Williams proved to be effective in moving his man. When Barksdale & Dahl can handle the best left side DL in the NFL named JJ Watt for most of the entire game????I think we need to let that sink in.... :2u: Where is Saffold going to play???? What replace Barksdale??? :bummed: The OL seems to be coming around with this traditional offensive change from a majority pass blocking OL to a run blocking OL. Kudos to FB/TE Harkey & Kendricks blocking & red zone play of TD's.

On the negative side Shotty just can not figure out how to use two very special offensive players. If the Rams are indeed forming a winning identity its MOSTLY without our two biggest 2013 offensive additions in pass catchers Cook & Austin. So a very healthy top ten draft choice Tavon Austin saw only four snaps yesterday?? I have seen enough of DR between the tackles Its time for more Stacy & Cunningham.

In truth IMO its all about Sam Bradford where we see once again its the protection & the balance of a running game that is vital for this winning Ram team. Its not all about those nice speedy cute pretty glimmering offensive toys for Sam Bradford but the big slower short nasty ugly no-name guys.

The stats are really nothing to brag on but it is a big sniff of what could come if the Rams can continue to move toward improving on this new path.

To me it's like Schotty cut the play book, went back to last years game plan, only with more heavy packages. And for the most part plans for last years personnel.
Yes they have to find a way to get TA and Cook more as the focus. It's working how ever he's doing it.
Maybe it's just too many of the same pegs to fit in one hole thing, or TA not being comfortable with the whole route tree that hinders flexibility.
I'm just gonna give it time to let the new pieces gel then see what happens

But down the road any time TA and Givens aren't in the X & Y with Cook in the slot and Quick subbing in the Rams are leaving playmakers on the bench.
 

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HometownBoy said:
iBruce said:
It was refreshing to see Dahl stand up for Bradford. Hope to see more of the same as the season continues.
Beat me to it!

It was great to see Dahl get pissed at Cushing and look like he was gonna pound his head in. On a team desperate for fire and individuality a Turleyesque move like that brought happiness to my entire being.

These guys have each other's backs and that's the first step to being a better team.



Cushing that guy is gonna get busted for Roids one of these days. I so disliked him at Usc.