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Rams Signing Davin Joseph

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by RamBill, May 27, 2014.

  1. MizzOU

    MizzOU New Member

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    Joseph could come in and start. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.
  2. ZigZagRam

    ZigZagRam Well-Known Member

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    Now all we need to do is sign a vet LB that can play all three LB positions and I'll feel complete.
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  3. Angry Ram

    Angry Ram aka Captain RAmerica aka the OG Rammer

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    Funny, 2 months ago everyone was worried about the line...not we're not sure if guys will make the team.
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    I'm not 100% sure but I believe a player has to be on your roster for longer than 12 months to count towards a compensatory pick. The NFL hasn't released specific rules about compensatory picks but the explanation for Steven Jackson's exclusion from the formula was that his contract had been altered within the final 12 months of his time with us. Williams wasn't with us for 12 months so i'm guessing the NFL will say his contract wasn't unaltered for at least 12 months - hence no compensation. It's just my interpretation. Off the top of my head I can't think of any compensatory picks that were awarded for 1 year players in the past.
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  5. lockdnram21

    lockdnram21 Well-Known Member

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    i don't see all the love for JB. he was ok. I hope Joseph is great and starts at OG and Robinson is ready to play RT. Event Wagoner and JT said JB is overrated by some fans
  6. ZigZagRam

    ZigZagRam Well-Known Member

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    He was more than OK. He was one of the best RTs in football last season. If you think Barksdale is just OK I suggest watching more RTs around the league.

    His run blocking is just OK, but his pass blocking is among the best at his position.

    Joe Barksdale gave up 4 sacks, 5 QB hits, and 18 QB hurries.

    Compare that to the following:

    Trent Williams (WAS): 8 sacks, 6 hits, 21 hurries
    Joe Thomas (CLE) 2 sacks, 9 hits, 26 hurries
    Jason Peters (PHI) 4 sacks, 3 hits, 28 hurries

    How about some of the league's better right tackles?

    Zach Strief (NOS): 3 sacks, 4 hits, 26 hurries
    Phil Loadholt (MIN): 4 sacks, 5 hits, 27 hurries

    Joe Barksdale had less snaps than these players but his pass defense numbers are right up there with the best. Worst case scenario, he'd be in the second tier of pass blockers.

    What makes it even better? He doesn't take penalties! He tallied 1 penalty (false start) last season.
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  7. lockdnram21

    lockdnram21 Well-Known Member

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    just because he didn't give up a lot of sacks doesn't mean he was great.
  8. ZigZagRam

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    How do you grade offensive tackles then? I didn't say he was great, but he certainly was very good.

    He was among the best in limiting sacks, QB hits, and hurries.

    He took one penalty all of last season. One.

    He was a solid run blocker.

    If that doesn't make a player more than OK at RT, I'm not sure what you grade him on. Perhaps he should do tricks with animals at half time? Maybe lead a pep band while the defense is on the field?
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    lockdnram21 Well-Known Member

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    Numbers don't tell the whole story. There wasn't more sacks because of Qb awareness
  10. ZigZagRam

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    Yes, our QBs with their excellent awareness.

    Also, if the QB is having to elude rushers with their 'awareness' that would still qualify as hurries and in some cases hits, which Barksdale was among the best at limiting.

    Sorry bud, but Barksdale was very good for the Rams last season. Another season like that and he may be looking at a pretty solid payday come next offseason.
  11. rams24/7

    rams24/7 Well-Known Member

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    Someone probably already said this, but I didn't take the time to read through 6 pages. Joseph would have been a decent starter if we hadn't signed Rodger, now he provides great depth backing up both guard spots. No worse than Dahl, probably better at this point
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  12. ZigZagRam

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    Eh, if he's not better than he was last season then he certainly isn't better than Dahl. The Rams seem to agree that he will be better though, or else they would've signed Harvey. Here's to hoping another offseason removed from surgery gets him closer to the 2010 version of Davin Joseph.
  13. BonifayRam

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    Harvey Dahl vs Davin Joseph ? The fact that Joseph has played very well @ LEFT OG before the knee injury & can pass the Rams physical would be major reasons for me to say Snead & Fisher did very well.....also does not mean that later in the yr if OL'er Harvey Dahl who has never played the left side & is fully healthy he might return @ vet minimum.

    The Rams had three OG's play OLG in 2013....Chris Williams, Shelley Smith & finally Brandon Washington...all that is here today is Washington ....not the best position to be in.
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    This guy is happy. WARNING: LYRICS

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    Even though the Rams did not pass as much per game because of Bradford's injury you have to at least start the evaluation of tackles with pass blocking.
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    Pass the Rams physical? Even unhealthy Raiders can pass the Rams physical.
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  17. rams24/7

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    Let's not also forget what coach Bou has done with our lesser o-lineman over the past 2 years. He maxed out Barry Richardson, who didn't play as horrendous as many expected. He turned Wayne Hunter (Jason Smith trade) into a decent backup LT to Saffold, playing much better than Jets fans suggested he would. Turned two waiver wire pickups Williams and Smith into solid backups who were signed relatively early in FA. He turned another Raiders "bust" two years removed from being drafted into a swing OT in 2012 to eventually becoming a starting RT in 2013. And let's not forget the greatest aid of all, helping Rodger transition seamlessly from LT to RT to RG, and potentially becoming pro bowl talent at guard.

    So I'm not ready to write the book on Joseph, coach Bou has proven far too often in just 2 years here that he can turn players around, help them reinvent themselves, and max their potential
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    Rams and Gators Well-Known Member Pit Boss

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    Unhealthy Raiders can pass any team's physical, that's why they're the Raiders.
  19. ZigZagRam

    ZigZagRam Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure he was a RG during his tenure in Tampa.
  20. BonifayRam

    BonifayRam Well-Known Member

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    Very True... Joseph he is very limited these days in mobility ...I will find some tubes of him at OLG later on but I do know that he has played series @ OLG in the pro bowls too. Might recall last two seasons starters @ OLG Chris Williams & Robert Turner were not used much on the move either. Neither were any good hitting their targets on the move. One would think that will change with Greg Robinson playing OLG this year.
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