Rams GM Les Snead senses 'authentic chemistry' with Sean McVay

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THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. -- The conversations began at the facility and would trickle into the parking lot while the sun was setting, and sometimes not even that was enough. Sean McVay, the Los Angeles Rams' 31-year-old rookie head coach, was staying at a nearby Four Seasons at the time. Les Snead, the 46-year-old general manager beginning his sixth season with the organization, followed him there on several nights, his wife and his children residing 45 miles south in Manhattan Beach, California.

A couple of times a week for more than three months, from the middle of January until the end of April, McVay and Snead picked a restaurant inside the sprawling hotel, sat down, ordered wine and continued to talk -- about football, about their personalities, about life. It often got late enough that Snead found it sensible to book a room, so that he would be closer to work when the alarm clock went off in a few hours. He did it often.

"My family would probably say too much," Snead said, a wry smile coming over him on a recent afternoon.

Those nights, McVay says now, "meant a lot."

"You can see, since the day that I got here, that he’s been very intentional about making sure that we have a good relationship and we have open lines of communication," McVay said of Snead. "That makes you feel good. I think it’s a two-way street, and I think it’s really important for me to do a good job of extending myself to him. That’s why we’ve been able to have a good start to this, hopefully for a long time to come."

McVay was hired as the Rams' head coach -- and thus the youngest head coach in modern NFL history -- on Jan. 12. Snead refers to the time that followed as the purest form of relationship-building, when one can start with the basics, before the distractions and the obstacles get in the way. It was during this stage that Snead found himself in a unique position, with the opportunity to connect with a young incoming head coach who was all alone in a new city. It was also his way of starting over.

"You’re not going to get those moments back," Snead said. "That’s a special thing. And me being the elder statesman, I was very aware of that."

Snead doesn't speak ill about his relationship with former head coach Jeff Fisher, who was fired last December, 13 games into his fifth season with the Rams. Snead and Fisher came in at the same time (though not necessarily together) and signed two-year extensions almost concurrently (though Fisher once famously claimed he was "unaware" Snead received one). Their relationship was never really painted as anything more than cordial. Towards the end, even that was up for debate.

But Snead will tell you he "gained a lot of wisdom from going through the trials and tribulations, successes and failures" with Fisher, who's 13 years his elder. "That partnership made me better today."

"There’s no negatives in terms of that relationship," Snead said of his time with Fisher. "This one is just different."

It needs to be. Snead's job security seemed tenuous until McVay was hired. Leading up to that, COO Kevin Demoff talked openly about how every Rams employee was under review. That included Snead, who signed an extension through 2018 that, as Fisher's situation demonstrated, didn't mean a whole lot. The Rams have since brought in an entirely new coaching staff -- save for three holdovers -- and also let go of a handful of scouts. They have in many ways rebranded themselves, because 10 consecutive losing seasons will make one do that.

For Snead to stay, Jared Goff probably needs to pay off and Snead's relationship with McVay definitely needs to work.

The latter, at least, is off to a good start. Some of those around Snead and McVay have even referred to their dynamic as a budding "bromance," which Snead tends to scoff at.

"I’m not a millennial, so I would need to see the definition," he said. "I would need to see the official definition from Urban Dictionary."

Snead prefers the term "authentic chemistry."

"Some people have chemistry, some don’t," he went on. "I don’t necessarily know why that is, but I think my theory in this case is that at the end of the day, all we really want to do is do our jobs to make the Rams the best football team possible. It’s about as sincere as that. There’s really nothing else that matters to us."

Snead was in the room when the Rams were interviewing head coaching candidates, even while speculation continued about his own return. He saw it as a "rare opportunity" and a "unique responsibility" and never wanted to approach the task out of self-preservation. His singular thought back then, Snead said, was, "We have to get this position right, because it’s as critical a move as we’ll make. The bar shouldn’t be, 'Are we going to get along or not?' That’s a given, because you’re going to work together."

Snead and McVay have since gone about building their rapport, within and beyond football. Snead has turned McVay on to sparkling water and has playfully suggested that while McVay is a faster sprinter, Snead can beat him in an endurance competition. But now he's hedging.

"I'm not so sure anymore," Snead said, "because he’s so competitive."

In those late-night chats at the Four Seasons, Snead saw McVay as someone who has been ahead of the curve in every stage of his life but has "no ego at all." In Snead, McVay saw "a passionate guy about football" who is also committed to his family, which he found relatable. But it's early. The season hasn't begun, the hardships haven't presented themselves, and a relationship isn't tested until the struggle hits.

Snead acknowledges that it's crucial for his relationship with McVay to work, but not for the reasons others might think.

"It needs to work for the Rams," he said. "It’s not about me. The relationship needs to work for the Los Angeles Rams. Take me out of this. I’m a part of this. But if you do this job, and you do anything for selfish reasons, it’s not going to work out."

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Moving forward they seem like a good match. Snead puts the time and effort into his work that matches McVay's. I believe Snead has learned from past mistakes he made, Fisher made and they made together. Hopefully, they can start producing soon. Looks like a solid off season for both.
 

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I believe Snead has learned from past mistakes he made
I hope so because he made some WHOPPERS.

Quick - just stupid in every way possible.

Pead - they needed to do their due diligence in what kind of character he had.

Those injury case O line men FAs were classic amateur mistakes.

Not drafting a Left Tackle earlier and then finally going with a Robinson? wow

I have to think that the only way he survived was by turning on Fisher.

I'm actually pulling for Snead and I'm not even sure why.
 

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I have to think that the only way he survived was by turning on Fisher.

I'm actually pulling for Snead and I'm not even sure why.
To answer the 1st part of this statement . I don't think Snead is that Type of guy, that he would stab a guy in the Back to survive!?! Pure BS!
As to the 2nd part, You pull for Snead because your a Rams Fan and want them to succeed, pure and simple as that!(y)
 

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I have to think that the only way he survived was by turning on Fisher.

I'm actually pulling for Snead and I'm not even sure why.
Disagree totally bro. It's apparently obvious Snead didn't approve of some of those picks and for the 489th time JEFF FISHER had the ultimate say so on roster moves and draft picks.
( as per his contract)

Snead now has normal GM control and I think that is obvious with this lady draft. Productive ballers were picked instead of potential upside guys.

Next year with proper ammunition I see him maybe pulling off a trade or two again.
 

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I think Snead knows McVay can ax him at any time....and Snead loves LA.....so he needs this relationship to work. McVay looks easy to get along with IMO.

Snead needs to do better...simple as that. He's done ok...but he's gotta pull something out of the 2nd and 3rd rounds that will stick. His first round record looks horrible.
 

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Essentially the GM's job is to find the type of players the coach wants. If you step back there is an obvious trend and correlation to coaching input into the draft that too many are overlooking.

Every defensive player in the first or second round (and most in the 3rd) that Snead picked has met or even exceeded expectations and we have seen an arc of improvement and development. On the flip side every offensive player the Rams have drafted in those early rounds has failed outright or been a disappointment to some extent. Another interesting trend is that many of the drafted offensive players that have had success seemed to regress the longer they were with the Rams and many actually had their best years as rookies. To me that clearly points to coaching more than talent evaluation.
 

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What would Snead know about chemistry? Think of all the very high (stoner?) picks this team has had recently. Blaming Fisher is easy. Snead put those draft boards together too. This guy knows more than Snead about chemistry.

View: https://youtu.be/NqzSJmv-cus
 
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I've said this before, but we'll almost certainly never know who made the final call on the Snisher picks. The fact that Snead is still around tells me he wasn't the driving force on all of the bad ones.

He still gets credit in my book for navigating the RG3 trade. All of those picks may not have panned out, but draft gurus and a lot of fans were calling for the Rams to take Griffin. Instead, he turned that choice into three very good players and a couple useful pieces.
 

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I firmly believe the GM's biggest decision is the coaching hire. That guy will maximize or minimize the return on the picks the GM makes, as well as a million other things that affect the end product on the field and thus the GM's job.

Les didn't pick Fish and moreover he didn't have final say on roster decisions. Not making excuses for him, but that's what the relationship was, and it probably saved his job when all was said and done.

He didn't pick McVay either, at least as a GM often does pick the coach, but he did have a part in the search and decision and so I think it's critical that he demonstrates he can succeed with McVay as his coach. And in this case not only is it a great hire, but it's also a good hire at the right time where he has a guy with the offensive savvy required to grow that QB that Les gave up all that draft capital for.

I actually wanted them to move on with a new GM paired with McVay, but now I've come around to where I'm hoping Snead can demonstrate that with the right coach, or "his guy" he can get 'er done. And if this thing turns around, his resume will be officially fixed from that disaster of a fallout with Fish.
 

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I hope so because he made some WHOPPERS.

Quick - just stupid in every way possible.

Pead - they needed to do their due diligence in what kind of character he had.

Those injury case O line men FAs were classic amateur mistakes.

Not drafting a Left Tackle earlier and then finally going with a Robinson? wow

I have to think that the only way he survived was by turning on Fisher.

I'm actually pulling for Snead and I'm not even sure why.

Disagree totally bro. It's apparently obvious Snead didn't approve of some of those picks and for the 489th time JEFF FISHER had the ultimate say so on roster moves and draft picks.
( as per his contract)

Snead now has normal GM control and I think that is obvious with this lady draft. Productive ballers were picked instead of potential upside guys.

Next year with proper ammunition I see him maybe pulling off a trade or two again.

I don't get how you can keep raggin on the previous coach and GM combo by bringing up the same and tired arguments in the players mentioned. Blah blah they took Greg Robinson blah blah.

I'm gonna leave out the obvious ones here, but man getting Michael Brockers, Janoris Jenkins, Trumaine Johnson, Greg Zuerlein, Tavon Austin, Alec Ogletree, Lamarcus Joyner, Maurice Alexander, EJ Gaines, Rob Havenstein, and Jamon Brown is pretty good to me.

We'll never now how Stedman Bailey would have turned out, and I'll throw TJ McDonald in there as well. Even Tre Mason had a great rookie year. Too bad non-football circumstances led to their outings.
 

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His first round record looks horrible.

Because of one bust?

2012- 14th Overall Michael Brockers (y)

2013- 8th Overall Tavon Austin :sneaky:

30th Overall Alec Ogletree (y)

2014- 2nd Overall Greg Robinson :sick:

13th Overall Aaron Donald :yess:

2015- 10th Overall Todd Gurley (y)

That's pretty damn good for a first round record. Not judging Goff after one season. Especially when you consider how many hall of fame type QBs struggle year one.
 

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That's pretty damn good for a first round record.
Not sure what your criteria of a successful 1st round pick is....if it's just a starter, well his record is spotless...But if you're looking for more...say, top 15 at their respective positions...?

We also need to differentiate between high first round (top 10-15) or low 1st rounders....I expect a lot of picks in the top 10 of the first round.

Other than Donald, who has stood out? I like Brockers, I love Ogletree....hell, I'd even say Gurley is a solid player and pick...but many would view those last 3 as just players at this point in their careers. The others could be considered busts.
 

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Not sure what your criteria of a successful 1st round pick is....if it's just a starter, well his record is spotless...But if you're looking for more...say, top 15 at their respective positions...?

We also need to differentiate between high first round (top 10-15) or low 1st rounders....I expect a lot of picks in the top 10 of the first round.

Other than Donald, who has stood out? I like Brockers, I love Ogletree....hell, I'd even say Gurley is a solid player and pick...but many would view those last 3 as just players at this point in their careers. The others could be considered busts.

You have a highly unrealistic bar set for players. If Aaron Donald is gonna be that bar, you gonna be disappointed the majority of years. Players like him don't come every draft, let alone multiple Aaron Donald level players on the same team.

If you get good players that last 6, maybe 7 years then that is a successful pick. IDK what your definition of "standing out" is. Pro Bowl? All-Pro? Fawned over by announcers? Getting voted in that dumb Top 100 list?
 

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If you get good players that last 6, maybe 7 years then that is a successful pick. IDK what your definition of "standing out" is. Pro Bowl? All-Pro? Fawned over by announcers? Getting voted in that dumb Top 100 list?
Top 15 drafted players should be pro bowl/All-pros types....that's the top 15 players coming out of college. Doesn't seem too high of a bar. Donald has reached that mark and then some. If I went by starters, it would skew the rankings...since teams typically start high picks that can't play...you should be able to draft starters...first year...in the 2nd and possibly the 3rd round. You should be able to draft standouts, all-pros in the top of the first.
 

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To answer the 1st part of this statement . I don't think Snead is that Type of guy, that he would stab a guy in the Back to survive!?! Pure BS!(y)
I never said that he "stabbed ANYONE in the back" don't exaggerate my statement please.

I think he just stop supporting Fisher to the hierarchy as he had been for the first few years of their working together.

Snead stopped giving interviews.

Was basically missing.

Didn't support Fisher to the media.

Things leaked out about a rift.

Snead is still here and Fisher isn't.
 

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I don't get how you can keep raggin on the previous coach and GM combo by bringing up the same and tired arguments in the players mentioned. Blah blah they took Greg Robinson blah blah.

I'm gonna leave out the obvious ones here, but man getting Michael Brockers, Janoris Jenkins, Trumaine Johnson, Greg Zuerlein, Tavon Austin, Alec Ogletree, Lamarcus Joyner, Maurice Alexander, EJ Gaines, Rob Havenstein, and Jamon Brown is pretty good to me.

We'll never now how Stedman Bailey would have turned out, and I'll throw TJ McDonald in there as well. Even Tre Mason had a great rookie year. Too bad non-football circumstances led to their outings.

How can you not? Seriously? The only and I repeat only pro bowlers out of all those first round picks are Gurley and ofc Donald.

The reason why it keeps getting brought up is because we whiffed, and whiffed badly on the majority of those picks.

If you go back and read closely you see I'm not talking about a GM and head coaching combo I'm talking about Jeff Fishers personal decisions since contractually he was the top of the food chain as far as personal went.

I don't know how many other ways you can put it so that other Ram fans can catch up and understand that.

A lot of those players you mentioned are below average to average on productions with very few above average.

That's how it constantly gets brought up.