Rams #1 in pass defense

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Angry Ram

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Just looking at which defense to start this week in fantasy, noticed the Rams were #1 in pass defense.

Who would've thunk it?
 

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Teams are simply terrified of our d line. They are getting the ball out quickly and abandoning any deep ball.
This is why we need to score early and often. Force teams to throw with 5-7 step drops.
Then pummel their qb.
 

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1. Jenkins and Gaines are playing very well!

2. We haven't given teams any reason to abandon the run.
 

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sorry to be the negative nancy, but i''m thinking it has more to do with our run defense better known as SIEVEGATE.
 

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Teams are simply terrified of our d line. They are getting the ball out quickly and abandoning any deep ball.
This is why we need to score early and often. Force teams to throw with 5-7 step drops.
Then pummel their qb.
might also have something to do with 150 rushing yards a game
 

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I was going to start a post on what ills the defense.

The play of the CB's has been solid.

I'm thinking our "biggest strength" (the dline) needs the most work.
 

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Big runs have KILLED this team thus far. The YPC #s are deceptive, as a couple of really long gainers have gone for either TDs (Patterson) or have broken the Rams backs in comebacks (Sproles).

Lets see where our numbers are in a few weeks, when attrition and injuries start to hit all the teams in the league, and the early bye starts to means less because more teams have played more games.
 

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The run defense has actually been pretty damn good until a runner hits the second level. Tree and Laurinaitis need to step it up. If it weren't for LB play, the whole defense would be solid.

That's not the main reason the Rams are #1. Rams are #1 because they are forcing the short throws and defending well. Yes, it helps that teams are running, but you don't get the #1 pass defense by default.
 

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misleading stat to say the least because teams can run at will against them.

Rams are:
30th in completion% against (70.8%)
25 th in QB ratings against (98.5)
 

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misleading stat to say the least because teams can run at will against them.

Rams are:
30th in completion% against (70.8%)
25 th in QB ratings against (98.5)

Completion percentage is mostly due to the short routes teams throw against us, and that high completion percentage will boost that passer rating score up too. We're playing very well in the secondary, we've had a couple breakdowns but besides that, pretty great. Stats don't always tell the whole story.

I'd probably put us at #10 in the league, we're only #1 because teams don't throw a lot on us. But when they do throw, we're actually fairly effective in stopping them. Considering we have a solid pass defense while having no pass rush, they're doing an admirable job.
 

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I was going to start a post on what ills the defense.

The play of the CB's has been solid.

I'm thinking our "biggest strength" (the dline) needs the most work.
IMHO our biggest weakness is linebacker play.
 

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Completion percentage is mostly due to the short routes teams throw against us, and that high completion percentage will boost that passer rating score up too. We're playing very well in the secondary, we've had a couple breakdowns but besides that, pretty great. Stats don't always tell the whole story.

I'd probably put us at #10 in the league, we're only #1 because teams don't throw a lot on us. But when they do throw, we're actually fairly effective in stopping them. Considering we have a solid pass defense while having no pass rush, they're doing an admirable job.
We are also in the bottom 10 in yards per pass allowed. The whole "all they do is dink and dunk" is not factual.
 

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The run defense has actually been pretty damn good until a runner hits the second level. Tree and Laurinaitis need to step it up. If it weren't for LB play, the whole defense would be solid.

That's not the main reason the Rams are #1. Rams are #1 because they are forcing the short throws and defending well. Yes, it helps that teams are running, but you don't get the #1 pass defense by default.
30th out of 32 just isn't good. Period.
 

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Big runs have KILLED this team thus far. The YPC #s are deceptive, as a couple of really long gainers have gone for either TDs (Patterson) or have broken the Rams backs in comebacks (Sproles).

Lets see where our numbers are in a few weeks, when attrition and injuries start to hit all the teams in the league, and the early bye starts to means less because more teams have played more games.
I could care less about numbers. I want wins.
 

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30th out of 32 just isn't good. Period.

Correct. It isn't good. But, it's not like the entire team sucks at run D. They are, for the most part, really good. The only reason I'm pointing it out is to say that they don't have to do a lot to turn it around. The LBs have been horrible at stopping the run, but I can't believe Williams will let that continue.
 

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We are also in the bottom 10 in yards per pass allowed. The whole "all they do is dink and dunk" is not factual.

Because we have so little attempts against us that one long touchdown skews everything. Did you know that Dez Bryant's 68 yard touchdown adds about 0.6 to yards/attempt? If you take away that, it goes from 7.25 to 6.67. Which is a huge difference.

A 6.7 Y/A would put us in the top 10 in the league for the lowest Y/A allowed.

I'm not saying take away the Dez Bryant TD, that's not fair, I'm just saying stats don't tell the whole story. We've been playing extremely well besides a few breakdowns, and over the season as opponents get more attempts against us, those numbers should go back down to how we've actually been playing, instead of how an outlier skews our data.
 

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30th out of 32 just isn't good. Period.

Skewed b/c of QB scrambles and Cordarrelle Patterson.

For the most part, they aren't any better or any worse.

It's not like they are allowing backs to constantly to have breakout games like they used to.
 

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Skewed b/c of QB scrambles and Cordarrelle Patterson.

For the most part, they aren't any better or any worse.

It's not like they are allowing backs to constantly to have breakout games like they used to.
Most people on this forum entering the season expecting and predicting a top defense.

This defense is not good. Nowhere close to elite, or really even average so far. One of the worst against the run, last in sacks, one of the worst in giving up points, bottom ten is completion percentage, passer rating, and yards per attempt.

I applaud your attempts to find something to be positive about with this massively underachieving defense.

To me this has been a massive disappointment.
 

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Because we have so little attempts against us that one long touchdown skews everything. Did you know that Dez Bryant's 68 yard touchdown adds about 0.6 to yards/attempt? If you take away that, it goes from 7.25 to 6.67. Which is a huge difference.

A 6.7 Y/A would put us in the top 10 in the league for the lowest Y/A allowed.

I'm not saying take away the Dez Bryant TD, that's not fair, I'm just saying stats don't tell the whole story. We've been playing extremely well besides a few breakdowns, and over the season as opponents get more attempts against us, those numbers should go back down to how we've actually been playing, instead of how an outlier skews our data.
Yeah, it's funny how stats work. If you take away the long completions and only count the shorter ones then the YPA comes down.

That's part of all team's stats. If you take away the long completions from any defense and their YPA will improve.

Let's try to stay focused on what really happened.
 

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Where would you expect a ream to rank against the run if they faced McCoy, Petterson, and Demarco Murray in three of their 4 games?and then a guy who has had 150 yard games before,next up Gore and then Lynch, that's a damned murderers row.
I'mnot saying we don't need to improve ,but we aren't going to face those guys every week ,we may be irrelevant buy the time we get past those guys but everyone is getting gashed by those guys,who are still playing