Ram fans in St. Louis

[Loyal]

And those things are fair to do. People are allowed to have feelings and opinions.



That's not true. I'm a fan dating back to probably as long as you since we are close to the same age. I'll never stop being a Rams fan. But one thing has nothing to do with the other.

I didn't like Georgia and Shaw either.

We are talking about different people. The majority of poster/lurkers that say horrible things about the Rams on RamStalk are no longer fans...I am not including the few still holding the Rams banner high, they of course are fans. You're a fan since 1969? Damn, yur old!:fighting:

 

[Ellard80]

Are there still many Rams' fans in St. Louis? Now that the Rams are finally enjoying some success in Los Angeles, are fans in St. Louis still bitter about the return to Los Angeles. Do fans attend bars and openly cheer for the Rams or are they jeered and scoffed at when they do. I'm very curious to know. I was one of the few who always cheered for the Rams when the team relocated to St. Louis and remained a life-long Rams fans here in Los Angeles watching the team in bars and later on Sunday Ticket. Rams fans or even Ram haters, please chime in.

Thanks.

I'm from neither and have been a Rams can since about 86.... where there located means very little to me.

I actually have more motivation to go to LA to watch a game... better weather... though the field condition....

Never had any desire to go to St Louis to see a game event though I'm much closer.

 

[EastRam]

I remember seeing games in bars from 99-01 and the crowd was crazy loud. Madden said during the Vikings playoff game IIRC it was the loudest crowd he had ever heard in his entire life.



That means you are proud as hell and broke as hell HAHAHA. Congrats to her!

We were at the Packers - Rams playoff game in 01. Loudest rocking game ever!

LA is on the clock. Witness to a great stadium where football is meant to be played. Show up.

 

[Loyal]

I'm from neither and have been a Rams can since about 86.... where there located means very little to me.

I actually have more motivation to go to LA to watch a game... better weather... though the field condition....

Never had any desire to go to St Louis to see a game event though I'm much closer.

I live In Kansas, about 550 miles away from the Ed, and I never made it to a game from Kansas since 1997...lol

 

[LACHAMP46]

Hell, I was pissed when the Rams moved to Anaheim....I'm from LA.....then the moved to St. Lou....I was like ok.....then the Raiders moved too....so I wasn't a real fan of football....It took a couple seasons....and I needed something to cheer for...so 97 was the year I really watched the team...they still televised the games for us....and I thought...hmmmm, this guy Tony Banks....ahahahahah...Trung Candidate.....ahahahahahah....but I respected Bruce....Bruce and Slater.....Adam Arch....and my boy, Dre Bly....they pulled me on back...but I was pissed in 94....95 too....Georgia....damn snake...and John Shaw...I read he still owns part of the team.

 

[ljramsfan]

I am in Springfield MO, but born and raised in St Louis. I have been a fan since the Pretty Tony days. I, too, was pissed at Stan and Kevin, but I partially blame the city of St. Louis for not being proactive in the stadium talks.

Part of the problems of STL is that they are not proactive with anything. There are no innovators in that town. People I knew that were sports fan were mainly Cards and Blues fan. Rightfully so because they started in the community.

I dont know if any of you STL fans have read the article from SI. It displays the opinions of different people in town (reputable people too) on how they feel about the Rams and their winning. Its an interesting read.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/11/01/st-louis-football-fans-opinions-los-angeles-rams-success

One of the people mentioned that sales at the local bars are down, money is lost in the city, and local sports radio usually only over cover baseball and hockey for 4 hours. Now, I have been listening to LA radio to get Rams news on my ESPN app.

 

[RamFan503]

I read he still owns part of the team.

I don’t think he still owns any part of the Rams but until at least very recently, he still had an office on the west coast that he called his Rams LA office. Seemed odd at the time because he was no longer part of the organization. Chip and Lucinda - last I heard - still had a small percentage of the team after Stan bought controlling interest though. This is all by recollection though so some, all, or none of it could be true.

 

[Memoriesdk]

Became a fan while living in STL. Still a fan

 

[Rabid Ram]

Man I wish these threads would go away. I know it's not the OP intentions but it comes off as rubbing salt in the wound. I agree with dieter this is a slippery slope thread that prob should be closed.

Why can't we just be fans why does it have to be LA fans and st louis fans?

 

[STLRam]

STL crew. I still don’t understand why so many people in St. Louis were so butthurt that they moved back to LA. The Rams were so bad for the past decade that most people didn’t even watch the games, the game attendance was terrible, and most couldn’t name a Rams’ player besides Tavon Austin. Can’t tell you how many people I know immediately switched to the Chiefs. Pathetic if you ask me.

Kroenke is a hypocritical loser by saying he was never going to relocate the Rams, but I support the organization and the players, not the owner.

 

[Loyal]

Man I wish these threads would go away. I know it's not the OP intentions but it comes off as rubbing salt in the wound. I agree with dieter this is a slippery slope thread that prob should be closed.

Why can't we just be fans why does it have to be LA fans and st louis fans?

give it another 20 years...lol

 

[JackKirbyFan]

As you can see I started this post and I am immensely enjoying reading the comments from mostly die-hard Ram fans. Just took my bi-polar meds and they make me sleepy so I will offer my POV tomorrow. However, I will add that I retired from a 34-year long teaching career so I guess that makes me old to many on these boards. Been a Ram fan since 1965 though my dad took me to my first game when I was four-years old but who remembers. Heck that was back in 1957. My dad started going to Ram games in 1949 and bought season tickets in 1951 (He had never even heard of the term "season seats") Again, more tired. Going to sleep.

 

[Corbin]

Why can't we just be fans why does it have to be LA fans and st louis fans?

Because the former city fans feel they were slighted and blame whatever they blame everything on incorrectly. They all blame Kroenke and Demoff unjustly and don’t blame any civic or public leaders from 94/95 till recently in the STL area. They really did a doo doo job in the whole aspect of things and as another poster stated they are never proactive, just reactive to situations which is why businesses leave the area not just the Rams.

 

[kurtfaulk]

I have to disagree, in a way! I'm in that group that has always routed for the Rams. And I think there where a lot of us, still routing here in L.A. after they relocated to St. Louis!

Why are you disagreeing when you said exactly the same thing he did?

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[Dxmissile]

STL crew. I still don’t understand why so many people in St. Louis were so butthurt that they moved back to LA. The Rams were so bad for the past decade that most people didn’t even watch the games, the game attendance was terrible, and most couldn’t name a Rams’ player besides Tavon Austin. Can’t tell you how many people I know immediately switched to the Chiefs. Pathetic if you ask me.

Kroenke is a hypocritical loser by saying he was never going to relocate the Rams, but I support the organization and the players, not the owner.

Lol I can’t even go into detail about just how wrong you are.

The Rams still averaged over 50k in attendance and before Kroenke decided to move the team it was sellouts every year despite the horrible play on the field and as far as watching the games the Rams was the highest rating football team even beating out the Cardinals and blues when they went head to head and some of that includes postseason games. Not to mention that viewship was still higher in stl then it was in LA.

As far as people go to switching to different teams it’s their preference which I’m sure happened when the Rams moved to Anaheim and then moved to stl

 

[Dxmissile]

Because the former city fans feel they were slighted and blame whatever they blame everything on incorrectly. They all blame Kroenke and Demoff unjustly and don’t blame any civic or public leaders from 94/95 till recently in the STL area. They really did a doo doo job in the whole aspect of things and as another poster stated they are never proactive, just reactive to situations which is why businesses leave the area not just the Rams.

So this is the same misguided information that people like to spew. STl has one of the highest concentration of fortune 100 and Fortune 500 company due to population. While the city of St. Louis has a population of about 330k the stl area as a whole is about 3million.

As far as the stadium situation nothing could have been done to change Kroenke mind except giving him what he wanted and the city paying for it all. If they gave Kroenke his own land let him develop it like he is doing in LA but he gets all the revenue give him tif tax breaks and finance the stadium he would have stayed but in this case the city did the smart thing by waiting for arbitration which they HAD to do. I don’t get how that’s hard to understand nothing can be done until Arbitration the Rams was still in their lease until Arbitration.

Let’s not act like every team in the history of the nfl didn’t wait till the wire to get something done but NO city in the history of the NFL was asked to build 2 stadiums 20 yrs apart like STl was asked to do and the city did answer that call

 

[Zaphod]

I'm an obvious St. Louis fan, and I want to set some things straight.

RamStalk is what it is. Just like anything run by Post Disgrace, it's more of a forum for pissing contests than actual sports discussion. So to put that into perspective ... a lot of people are here as an alternative to that cesspool and it really shouldn't come as a surprise that the opinions of St. Louis fans from that forum aren't even close to those of those who frequent this forum.

How butt hurt are the casual fans? You already know the answer to that. To give you some perspective, I still catch flak over my Marshal Faulk jersey. Faulk?! AreYouFuckingKiddingMe?!!! Yeah, you know how that went down. I mean, I get how some morons might not remember or even know who freaking Orlando Pace is, although I openly trash them anyway, but Faulk?

It's ok, people in St. Louis are jersey snobs, I still wear my Craig Conroy sweater just to piss people off at hockey games. Heck, I'd wear it while playing goalie and just to get in their heads (which helps) an let them know that my dated sweater still isn't helping them score on me.

Also, there were a lot of fans of the Chiefs in this city long before the Rams came here, so don't be surprised that some people migrated back to the team they once followed after being slighted once again by the NFL (think back to the Cardinals).

Speaking of the Cardinals (sorry I'm personally too young to miss that team), there are a lot of people who are now double pissed about seeing their team walk away. I'm not sure what to think about that other than that NFL is in an obvious state of unsustainable whoredom.

All that said, I've remained a Rams fan because I'm just a Rams fan. I don't think I need a better explanation than that. I think that any other St. Louis fan still on this forum should be treated as such. Please don't put my city or it's remaining fans down in an effort to justify moving the team (admittedly back to LA, where admittedly there is more money). Just own it, and enjoy the team.

Looking at the other teams here, it's the same old situation. St. Louis is a relatively smaller market. We've heard so many threats to sell and move the Blues that it is tiring. Even the Cardinals for all of their success (god I hate baseball) have to be creative with their spending compared to larger markets.

 

[-X-]

All that said, I've remained a Rams fan because I'm just a Rams fan. I don't think I need a better explanation than that. I think that any other St. Louis fan still on this forum should be treated as such. Please don't put my city or it's remaining fans down in an effort to justify moving the team (admittedly back to LA, where admittedly there is more money). Just own it, and enjoy the team.

Well said.

 

[CGI_Ram]

When these topics stay on the rails, I enjoy hearing the personal stories.

But the topic by it's nature can be divisive, even when unintentional. There is enough divisiveness out there in the world. We don’t need it here. Not on a fan forum. Not in a time when we should enjoy the team together.

We are all Rams fans. Damn good ones at that.

Closing the topic.

 

[Selassie I]

I don’t think he still owns any part of the Rams but until at least very recently, he still had an office on the west coast that he called his Rams LA office. Seemed odd at the time because he was no longer part of the organization. Chip and Lucinda - last I heard - still had a small percentage of the team after Stan bought controlling interest though. This is all by recollection though so some, all, or none of it could be true.

I asked Kevin Demoff about this a year or so ago. He informed me that Stan now owns 100% of the franchise.