Raiders my ass...

[UtahRam]

Chucky my ass...

 

[Soul Surfer]

You give such a strong argument that it's hard to argue with you.

 

[fearsomefour]

Wait them the Raiders get to Vegas and they can pitch FA to young guys.....Vegas, no state income tax....may not sway many top level guys but that will be a destination for second tier FA I would imagine.

 

[Mackeyser]

Chucky my ass...

There's a really obscene "beat" poem in there...somewhere...I think...

 

[ramsplaya16]

Early candidate for thread of the year.

 

[Selassie I]

Well... Jon can make the best Pirate Faces on the sideline. That cannot be denied.

We'll see how his coaching skills go though. I'm betting that they pale in comparison to his pirate face making ability. Go back and look at his last 2 years in Tampon for a refresher on what he brings to a team besides the cartoon antics.

 

[Merlin]

Wait them the Raiders get to Vegas and they can pitch FA to young guys.....Vegas, no state income tax....may not sway many top level guys but that will be a destination for second tier FA I would imagine.

And that home field advantage is real man. Dudes on opposing teams get off the plane in Vegas and there's gonna be some on the team that are like "VEGAS WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I'm orderin hookers and coke MFers!!!!"

 

[fearsomefour]

And that home field advantage is real man. Dudes on opposing teams get off the plane in Vegas and there's gonna be some on the team that are like "VEGAS WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I'm orderin hookers and coke MFers!!!!"

Haha.
Michael Irvin may come out of retirement.

 

[CGI_Ram]

You give such a strong argument that it's hard to argue with you.

:rolllaugh:

 

[Angry Ram]

Jeez, talk about an evil alliance

 

[Tron]

View: https://www.instagram.com/p/BdvcKywgc8Q/

 

[jrry32]

Well... Jon can make the best Pirate Faces on the sideline. That cannot be denied.

We'll see how his coaching skills go though. I'm betting that they pale in comparison to his pirate face making ability. Go back and look at his last 2 years in Tampon for a refresher on what he brings to a team besides the cartoon antics.

Tampa did pretty decently his final two years there.

 

[Selassie I]

Tampa did pretty decently his final two years there.

Must be why they fired him.

The record doesn't really tell the story.

 

[LesBaker]

You give such a strong argument that it's hard to argue with you.

I thought it was an offer, not an argument.

 

[jrry32]

Must be why they fired him.

The record doesn't really tell the story.

They went 9-7 in each of his final two years. It wouldn't be the first time a team made a mistake firing their HC. The Bucs traded a bunch of premium picks to acquire Gruden and then got themselves in cap hell. It was a very difficult situation after the Super Bowl.

 

[Q729]

Jeez, talk about an evil alliance

 

[Soul Surfer]

Jeez, talk about an evil alliance

How about the "Ugly Alliance"?

 

[Selassie I]

They went 9-7 in each of his final two years. It wouldn't be the first time a team made a mistake firing their HC. The Bucs traded a bunch of premium picks to acquire Gruden and then got themselves in cap hell. It was a very difficult situation after the Super Bowl.

Looking at his last 2 years record wise is not really the best way to describe it. My bad there. Let me try and improve on that...

After winning the Super Bowl in his 1st season with Tampon. Jon's teams were very much underachievers.

He went 12-4 in his 1st year and won 3 playoff games. (Dungy was lingering at that point)

After that,,, they went 43-51 and 0-2 in the postseason... and those teams were loaded with talent.

Gruden's career winning % is .540


His players weren't his biggest fans either. That might be fine sometimes... NOT all of the time though. His act lost impact very quickly with the players.

 

[Karate61]

Haha.
Michael Irvin may come out of retirement.

Haha. Johnny "Football" Manziel may get signed too!

 

[jrry32]

Looking at his last 2 years record wise is not really the best way to describe it. My bad there. Let me try and improve on that...

After winning the Super Bowl in his 1st season with Tampon. Jon's teams were very much underachievers.

He went 12-4 in his 1st year and won 3 playoff games. (Dungy was lingering at that point)

After that,,, they went 43-51 and 0-2 in the postseason... and those teams were loaded with talent.

Gruden's career winning % is .540


His players weren't his biggest fans either. That might be fine sometimes... NOT all of the time though. His act lost impact very quickly with the players.

His Raiders teams did quite well. Like I said, the Bucs' struggle had a lot to do with the organizational errors.

He's not an elite HC, but he's walking into a good situation in Oakland and is an above average to good HC (assuming he hasn't fallen off).