Q&A With someone who watched Tyler Higbee develop as a TE at WKU

  • To unlock all of features of Rams On Demand please take a brief moment to register. Registering is not only quick and easy, it also allows you access to additional features such as live chat, private messaging, and a host of other apps exclusive to Rams On Demand.

Prime Time

PT
Moderator
Joined
Feb 9, 2014
Messages
20,922
Name
Peter
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2016/5/16/11683266/2016-nfl-draft-tyler-higbee-scouting-report

2016 NFL Draft: Tyler Higbee Q&A With Underdog Dynasty
By 3k@3k_ on May 16, 2016

GettyImages-500083290.0.jpg

Wesley Hitt/Getty Images

Fletcher Keel watched Tyler Higbee develop as a tight end at WKU. What does he think the Rams are getting in their fourth-round draft pick?

I linked up with Fletcher Keel of Underdog Dynasty, the SB Nation community for fans of most of the teams of the non-major conferences, to get some info on the Los Angeles Rams first fourth-round selection in the 2016 NFL Draft, Western Kentucky TE Tyler Higbee.

So obviously story right now for Higbee is the altercation last month and the charges he pleaded not guilty to. Obviously an event like this can tarnish anyone's career. The question is one of isolation. Should there be any concern for Rams fans of a pattern or that Higbee is going to be someone who struggles with the responsibility and professionalism the NFL requires?

Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher is no babysitter. Is there anything you could shed light on that would suggest that will be a problem for Higbee or was this an unfortunate incident that spiraled out of control that you think will be something we point to years later as something Higbee learned and matured from?


If Higbee has had any other off-field issues, outside of his altercation and arrest, it's been kept out of the public eye. I heard the ESPN broadcast crew talk about how scouts said he enjoys the night life (which, in Bowling Green, Kentucky, there really isn't a whole lot of). However, that was the first time I had heard of that, and also the first time he's really been in trouble.

Over the past few years, plenty of WKU athletes have had run-ins with the law - be it small (DUI or marijuana possession) or large (a program getting suspended for five years) - but Higbee wasn't one of them until this offseason. I think this was just an unfortunate incident that spiraled out of control, but I also think he learned his lesson and going forward he wont find himself in another situation like this again.

Alright. time for some on-field stuff. What does Higbee do that makes him a legit NFL prospect? Clearly, he was able to deal with Conference USA-level talent by his senior year. But what will he be able to excel at against NFL-caliber opponents?

First and foremost, Higbee is a tremendous pass-catcher. Unlike previous WKU tight ends like Jack Doyle (now a big special teams player and H-back with the Colts) and Mitchell Henry (currently with the Packers) who were offensive weapons when they needed to be, Higbee is an offensive weapon first and a pass blocker second. He's a converted wide receiver and had a tremendous relationship with his quarterback in Brandon Doughty.

While yes, its easy to look down on C-USA competition (usually, rightfully so), Higbee did light up the two Power 5 teams he faced in 2015, hauling in 102 receiving yards and a touchdown against Vanderbilt and 109 yards and a touchdown against Indiana, so he has a couple of resume-building performances. He was so successful with the Hilltoppers, primarily, because he was Doughty's security blanket. If he can develop a great relationship with Jared Goff, he'll be a threat.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENV1etYYjro


Let's be blunt. Higbee ended up at WKU for a reason. He had holes in his game coming out of high school. And it's not as if he was a local product either coming out of Florida. What does he need to work on? What were the holes in his game that he addressed over his five-year career?

Sure, Higbee wasn't highly touted out of high school, but there's a bit more to him coming to WKU from Florida than meets the eye. Willie Taggart, the coach who helped put WKU on the map, was a great QB in his playing days for the Tops, and built a very strong recruiting pipeline with the Sunshine State (Doughty was also a Taggart signee, also from Florida, among many others).

However, of course, Higbee isn't a perfect player, and his biggest need for improvement will be rush blocking. With the backfield the Rams have, rushing is obviously going to be a huge part of the weekly gameplan, and they'll need a reliable H-back/blocking tight end. Higbee needs to bulk up a bit and get stronger in the trenches.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPiz2_bO08Q


Five years from now, let's say there are two paths. In one, Higbee has established himself as the clear starting tight end and signed a second deal with the Rams. In the other...he's an afterthought. What's the fork in the road? Where do those paths diverge? What does Higbee have to accomplish in year one to stay on the former path?

I think it all depends on what exactly the Rams want from him, both in the present and in the future. Are they happy with potentially needing a separate guy for run blocking than a pass catcher? Do they think they can turn Higbee into a great run blocker? Again, the offensive talent is there, no doubt, but if the Rams can develop someone else to be more efficient away from the ball, do they cut their losses with Higbee?

So, all of this is a long way of saying, the paths will diverge at the point of Higbee's blocking development and the Rams' decision on a.) how much they want to use him in that way and b.) if they're happy potentially needing two people for the position. If Higbee shows signs of improvement with the blocking, I'd say he has a good shot of staying. Even if the blocking is weak to begin the season, I still think he has enough offensive prowess for the Rams to want to be patient with him.

WKU had three players drafted for only the second time ever, the last time being 1971 when they had players drafted in the 15th, 16th and 17th rounds. Clearly, they're going to have a tough time replacing Higbee and Miami Dolphins seventh-round pick QB Brandon Doughty.

Without much history at this level, it's clear this is the highest height for the program in the nine years in FBS football. How does the program remain the class of Conference USA and continue to build a program that can feed the NFL with fresh talent?


The growth of WKU football has been awesome to watch. I was a freshman in 2011, and I rushed the field when we beat Louisiana-Lafayette at home to snap a 30-something game home losing streak. That 2011 year was the first time the Tops became bowl eligible in FBS. So, to begin my WKU fandom there and see them become conference champions after just five years has been pretty awesome. And, while they're losing Higbee and Doughty, and local Bowling Green defensive product Prince Charles Iworah to the 49ers (I'm so looking forward to a Prince Charles v. Higbee matchup), there is a lot of returning talent.

Receivers Nicholas Norris, Taywan Taylor and Nacarius Fant will be back, and that's literally just scratching the surface at the position. The backfield should be one of the best in all of G5 football, if not one of the best in the nation, with Ace Wales and D'Andre Ferby coming back, as well as Leon Allen who gained a sixth-year of eligibility. All of those names should be on NFL-watch lists sooner rather than later, and that's not even mentioning some of the non-skill position players on the offensive and defensive lines.

2016 will be interesting, as we'll see if WKU's success was more so Doughty or Jeff Brohm, but either way, yes the Tops may take a step back and only crack nine wins, they still should compete for a spot in the CUSA title game, and continue run of sending at least one player to the NFL that started in 2011 with Bobby Rainey.

Thanks to Fletcher for taking the time to answer these.
 

Merlin

Enjoying the ride
Rams On Demand Sponsor
ROD Credit | 2023 TOP Member
Joined
May 8, 2014
Messages
37,219
He is skilled enough in the passing game to help the Rams NOW. Question is whether he can be a pro (avoid trouble and make football a high priority), and secondly whether the Rams allow him to help them right away without making him earn his stripes as a blocker.

He's gotta get on the field for Goff to make him his favorite weapon. That's a key. If that happens, then he'll have a QB similar to the one he had at WKU, a bigger and better version of Doughty who will allow him to continue what he's done in the passing game.
 

Orchid

Starter
Joined
Jul 28, 2014
Messages
742
Name
Obert
To all of you that think he will be impactful this year, help me get on this band wagon and list for me the pass catching TE that were impactful in their rookie year? Not saying there have not been, but I just need a reference point

Second, given the Rams past and future devotion to Gurley "running the rock", I think Hemingway has a better chance than Higbee to be impactful this year.
 

-X-

Medium-sized Lebowski
Joined
Jun 20, 2010
Messages
35,576
Name
The Dude
To all of you that think he will be impactful this year, help me get on this band wagon and list for me the pass catching TE that were impactful in their rookie year? Not saying there have not been, but I just need a reference point
img

* I have no idea why Lee Evans and Megatron are on this list. I specifically put in tight-ends:
http://www.pro-football-reference.c...pos_is_db=Y&draft_pos_is_k=Y&draft_pos_is_p=Y

Second, given the Rams past and future devotion to Gurley "running the rock", I think Hemingway has a better chance than Higbee to be impactful this year.
I think they'll all start (Hemingway, Higbee, Kendricks) in terms of run-blocking. Moreso Kendricks as a move-TE initially until the others can get up to speed with their responsibilities and assignments. But as it relates to getting someone involved in the passing game, I think the focus will be on getting Higbee up to speed quickly so that he can develop a rapport with Goff. It's my opinion that this is what Fisher and Boras want to happen, because Higbee is the one guy who can create the most mismatches when paired with Goff.
 

Faceplant

Still celebrating Superbowl LVI
Rams On Demand Sponsor
2023 ROD Pick'em Champion
Joined
Aug 11, 2010
Messages
9,614
I think the focus will be on getting Higbee up to speed quickly so that he can develop a rapport with Goff. It's my opinion that this is what Fisher and Boras want to happen, because Higbee is the one guy who can create the most mismatches when paired with Goff.

Yep. This is our Montana/Clark, Elway/Sharpe, Fouts/Winslow.........Brady/Gronk type thingy.....and I like it.
 

Orchid

Starter
Joined
Jul 28, 2014
Messages
742
Name
Obert
I think they'll all start (Hemingway, Higbee, Kendricks) in terms of run-blocking. Moreso Kendricks as a move-TE initially until the others can get up to speed with their responsibilities and assignments. But as it relates to getting someone involved in the passing game, I think the focus will be on getting Higbee up to speed quickly so that he can develop a rapport with Goff. It's my opinion that this is what Fisher and Boras want to happen, because Higbee is the one guy who can create the most mismatches when paired with Goff.

X, Thanks for the post. While it has lots of noise (i.e. WR mixed in) it was good. Out of the 19 listed 14 were TEs. The best in my opinion receiving TE was Hernandez and the best two way TE was Gronk. Head to head, Gronk won then and know.
 

Roman Snow

H.I.M.
Joined
Dec 22, 2015
Messages
2,615
Name
John
I think Higbee and Hemmingway have a future here. I think TE Cunningham is in trouble. Kendricks is safe for this year, and Harkey is also, because of his blocking.

In two years, Higbee will be the man, but Hemmingway will not be far behind. (much like Gronk and Hernandez a few years ago...except without the killing, and stuff)

Goff will love his tight ends. I love Lance, and think he should never have been cast aside for Cooked, but he will be 30 soon, and his skills will be overshadowed by the new blood. Either he, or Harkey will probably be gone in 2017.

:rant: Look at you, man! You ain't the Turk! Step away from your keyboard, and let these players fight for their spots!"

:(