Position grades for the 2014 Rams/PD

[Dodgersrf]

I don't think any qb could have gotten us to 11 wins, with the oline we had this year. Somewhat of a mute point imo

 

[Ramathon]

What I really didn't understand all year was Stacy's disappearance. I agreed with Mason taking over as starter but for a coach known to favor a running game, these TWO should have been used more effectively somehow.

I wondered about that all season as well. Considering that MANY fans were questioning the pick of Mason given what Stacy showed in 2013, it did seem odd Stacy didn't see more time on the field than he did.

I don't think there's any question Mason's got more explosive capabilities, and I like his toughness for a not terribly large RB. It just seemed a bit strange that Stacy didn't get a few more carries than he did.

 

[-X-]

I wondered about that all season as well. Considering that MANY fans were questioning the pick of Mason given what Stacy showed in 2013, it did seem odd Stacy didn't see more time on the field than he did.

I don't think there's any question Mason's got more explosive capabilities, and I like his toughness for a not terribly large RB. It just seemed a bit strange that Stacy didn't get a few more carries than he did.

There has to be some reason why Stacy was replaced by Mason and rarely saw the field afterward. I seriously doubt it's because the coaches are unknowledgeable about which RB would be effective in which situations, so there might be some other reason none of us are privy to. The good news is, Demoff will be back after the Super Bowl, and you can ask him yourself. He's usually pretty straightforward about these things.

 

[Ramathon]

There has to be some reason why Stacy was replaced by Mason and rarely saw the field afterward. I seriously doubt it's because the coaches are unknowledgeable about which RB would be effective in which situations, so there might be some other reason none of us are privy to. The good news is, Demoff will be back after the Super Bowl, and you can ask him yourself. He's usually pretty straightforward about these things.

If his answer would be anything other than 'Fish thinks gives us the best chance for winning', I'm not sure I want to know.

 

[Boffo97]

If his answer would be anything other than 'Fish thinks gives us the best chance for winning', I'm not sure I want to know.

It'll be interesting to hear his answer on a similar question regarding Wells and Joseph.

 

[-X-]

If his answer would be anything other than 'Fish thinks gives us the best chance for winning', I'm not sure I want to know.

Only one way to find out.

 

[Ramathon]

It'll be interesting to hear his answer on a similar question regarding Wells and Joseph.

Yep. That one is a REAL puzzler. I could see that up until the time they were truly eliminated from the playoffs. But after that, I don't understand why a couple of the young guys couldn't have got at least some playing time....if for no other reason than just to see what they had for future reference.

 

[Username]

Fair enough, yo.

Just don't think that Bradford/Hill was that much of a coaching failure before the season began. We were all fairly content with that when Bradford was playing in preseason. I don't think anyone here really believed that Austin Davis would end up being our starter during the season, but would it have mattered much if it was Garappolo instead (had they chosen to take him instead of Joyner)?

There was probably some better options to be have via FA through trade or just a signing like Sanchez (if Schotty could swallow his pride.)

Idk, and I'm not paid to know. All I know is the choices they made didn't work... at all. Part of it could have to do with Hill not being ready to take control of the offense from the get go. Was that talent or coaching? Both? All I know is I'm done making excuses for the team. They have had plenty of time and opportunities to get their shit together by now.

I get what you're saying and I know I'm not the only one frustrated with how the season ended. I'm just done personally with cutting the organization any slack at all. It's time.

 

[Alan]

Big Willie with a query:
And, why does it take Ogletree 5 games to play up to his potential?

That's not on the coaches, that's on Ogletree. He came into camp badly out of shape and it took him 5 games to play himself into playing shape.

 

[-X-]

There was probably some better options to be have via FA through trade or just a signing like Sanchez (if Schotty could swallow his pride.)

Idk, and I'm not paid to know. All I know is the choices they made didn't work... at all. Part of it could have to do with Hill not being ready to take control of the offense from the get go. Was that talent or coaching? Both? All I know is I'm done making excuses for the team. They have had plenty of time and opportunities to get their crap together by now.

I get what you're saying and I know I'm not the only one frustrated with how the season ended. I'm just done personally with cutting the organization any slack at all. It's time.

I get it. Think I'm thrilled with offering up 'reasoning' year after year after year? It's not the job I wanted when I signed up for this fandom either, pally.
2015 better be the year, or I'm going to have to seriously reevaluate my priorities.

 

[Force16X]

6 - 10 teams are about a c minus d + category. even if it meant they would have been 1 game away from winning the nfc south.

 

[Corbin]

Position grades for the 2014 Rams

Coaching

What was easily the most-talented roster in Jeff Fisher’s three years as the Rams’ coach somehow managed to win one fewer game than the 2012 and 2013 editions. The Rams didn’t seem ready to play and weren’t particularly intense in the opener against Minnesota. The same could be said in a Game 15 loss to the 6-10 New York Giants.

For the third year in a row, the team started the season with a 3-5 record; something must be done to get out of the gate faster. Along the way, the Rams blew first-half leads of 21 points and 14 points at home to Dallas and San Francisco, respectively. Getting outscored 106-48 in the third quarter doesn’t speak well to halftime adjustments made on either side of the ball.

The Rams still aren’t talented enough to overcome being among the league’s most penalized teams every year.

There’s no mulligan awarded after Bradford’s knee injury. The Rams had all offseason to come up with a starting-caliber alternative to Bradford in the draft and the result was sixth-rounder Garrett Gilbert, who didn’t make it out of camp. With no more picks coming from the RGIII trade, it’s time to show something in 2015.

GRADE: D

Thanks Schotty! Poor lil Tavon....

 

[Rams and Gators]

Fair enough, yo.

Just don't think that Bradford/Hill was that much of a coaching failure before the season began. We were all fairly content with that when Bradford was playing in preseason. I don't think anyone here really believed that Austin Davis would end up being our starter during the season, but would it have mattered much if it was Garappolo instead (had they chosen to take him instead of Joyner)?

To be honest I'm not overly concerned with 2014 any more, it's in the books, we got substandard results, there were zero repercussions for the coaching staff, let's move on.

I do know that when it comes to 2015 I'd feel a lot more comfortable with either Garappolo or Carr (who we could have probably had with our 2nd and 4th round picks) or even Bridgewater with a full year under their belts than the situation we're currently in which is pretty much Bradford or bust.

 

[-X-]

To be honest I'm not overly concerned with 2014 any more, it's in the books, we got substandard results, there were zero repercussions for the coaching staff, let's move on.

I do know that when it comes to 2015 I'd feel a lot more comfortable with either Garappolo or Carr (who we could have probably had with our 2nd and 4th round picks) or even Bridgewater with a full year under their belts than the situation we're currently in which is pretty much Bradford or bust.

Well, who wouldn't? But then that goes back to whether or not they knew in advance that Bradford would injure the same ACL twice.

 

[DaveFan'51]

I think JT is 'Kissing-up' to his crowd at PDRT with these grades! With one exception, he ' Low-balled' all his grades!!

 

[LumberTubs]

I've only ever read a few JT articles but I can't help thinking he revels in the Rams' misfortunes or failures. He seems to get a twisted enjoyment out of watching them fail as if to say 'I told you so, they'll always let you down.'

 

[Rmfnlt]

To be honest I'm not overly concerned with 2014 any more, it's in the books, we got substandard results, there were zero repercussions for the coaching staff, let's move on.

I do know that when it comes to 2015 I'd feel a lot more comfortable with either Garappolo or Carr (who we could have probably had with our 2nd and 4th round picks) or even Bridgewater with a full year under their belts than the situation we're currently in which is pretty much Bradford or bust.

This hits on one of the things I was disappointed in during the draft.

IMO, there was enough information available to Fisher and Snead regarding Bradford (injury history going back to college and his NFL career stats) to not wait until the 6th round to select a QB. 6th round QB? Might as well not even pick a QB in that round (the outrageous exceptions like Brady notwithstanding). Spoeaking of Brady, where is that 6th rounder now? In NE! :eek:

By basically ignoring the QB position in the draft, they postponed addressing the future by one full year. To me, that's smarts.

I feel as you do about the names you mention and how much better my outlook at QB would be going into 2015.

 

[thirteen28]

Agree that the grades were too harsh, especially secondary and LB, and to some degree WR. I would give the WR's at least a B-, it's not their fault that the OL and bad QB'ing negatively impacted their numbers. They seemed to do their part. As far as the grades for LB and secondary, our defense played very effectively as the season wore on, save for the Giants game, and that type of effectiveness doesn't happen with two of the 3 units playing below average. The secondary was also the only part of the D playing at least average or better in the early part of the season.

Also, I too fail to understand Stacy's disappearance. If there was a nagging injury we don't know about, that's one thing that make sense. Absent that, I fail to understand it, even though I agree with Mason starting and getting the bulk of the carries. Stacy is still the most powerful back we have, and he's the kind of guy that makes defenders feel pain when they engage him. If he was healthy, then there is no excuse for not giving him a few carries here and there to soften up a defense. I find it hard to believe, absent injury (and factoring in the OL), that he couldn't be somewhat effective given the way he played last year.

 

[Boffo97]

One theory on Stacy's disappearance:

"Hey coach! Do you have any naked pictures of your wife? No? Want some?"