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PFT Preseason Power Rankings: Rams #27

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    PFT preseason power rankings No. 32: New York Jets
    Posted by Mike Florio on July 9, 2017

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    With training camps still a couple of weeks away and (fortunately) not many arrests or other misdeeds to fill the slow time, there’s a void that needs to be filled. So we’ll fill it with a look at each of the NFL’s franchises, ranked bottom to top based on where they’re currently perceived to be in relation to their 31 competitors at this stage of the season.

    Feel free to complain in the comment about whether a team is ranked too high or too low. The first team could be ranked no lower; we start with the bottom of the barrel and dig upward.

    Someone has to be last at the start of the season, and the Jets seem to be determined to be last at the end of the season. So we’ll go ahead and given them the distinction right now.

    Biggest positive change: In an offseason without many of them for the Jets, the acquisition of cornerback Morris Claiborne stands out. Banged up and arguably misused in the Cowboys Cover-2 base defense that came after Claiborne was drafted, the former top-10 pick could become a difference maker in the Jets defense as a free-agent arrival. Or maybe not. Either way, there isn’t much to choose from by way of potentially positive changes.

    Biggest negative change: Take your pick. The mass exodus of talented veteran players, from Nick Mangoldto Ryan Clady to Darrelle Revis to Erin Henderson to Brandon Marshall to David Harris to Eric Decker, will make it much harder for the team to compete in 2017.

    Then again, chances are the Jets wouldn’t have been very competitive with them. So why not tear it down, earn the first pick in the draft, and take solace in the notion that 2018 will bring them one year closer to not having to deal with Tom Brady?

    Coaching thermometer: It’s at least 200 degrees for Todd Bowles as he enters his third year. Although owner Woody Johnson (who’ll soon be handing the day-to-day reins to his brother but who surely will be involved in the big decisions) has said he’s looking only for improvement this season, improvement will be difficult with so many key players gone and so many unproven players in their place.

    We’d like to crack a beer with . . . Matt Forte. It may take more than a few to get him going, but it would be great to hear what he really thinks about finishing his career with a franchise that clearly is in rebuilding mode, but that hasn’t cut him. Yet.

    How they can prove us wrong: Most teams have at least semi-plausible hope this time of year. But not the Jets. It’s possible that they could avoid serious injuries throughout training camp and the preseason and slowly build confidence in September and then October, winning as many games as they lose.

    The guy who can help make that happen the most is veteran quarterback Josh McCown, who played very well with the Bears in 2013 but who has had tough situations in Tampa three years ago (no offensive coordinator) and in Cleveland for each of the past two seasons.

    If he can stay healthy and get help from Forte, a young receiving corps, and an offensive line firmly in flux, maybe the Jets can surprise us. Which, based on currently expectations, would mean winning more than four games.
     
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    PFT preseason power rankings No. 31: Cleveland Browns
    Posted by Josh Alper on July 10, 2017

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    The Browns have taken the bottom rung in plenty of preseason, in-season and postseason power rankings in recent years, but that’s not where they find themselves in PFT’s rankings this summer.

    They are No. 31, which isn’t where you’d want to be but it’s still a nice change for the Browns to have someone to look down on. Their chances of shooting higher up in the rankings will hinge on finally answering their eternal quarterback question.

    Cody Kessler, Brock Osweiler and second-round pick DeShone Kizer are this year’s options under center, which offers some intriguing possibilities but little certainty that the search is ending this year. The good news for the Browns is that their stockpiling of draft picks, including three first-round selections this year, has led to more talent around the quarterbacks.

    Biggest positive change: That increase in talent should be noticeable on both the offensive and defensive lines this year. First overall pick Myles Garrett gives the Browns a major piece to build around at defensive end and the team drafted two other defensive linemen to go with four others drafted in 2015 and 2016.

    On the other side of the ball, adding right guard Kevin Zeitlerand center JC Tretter in free agency and extending left guard Joel Bitonio gives the Browns a stronger group to go with left tackle Joe Thomas.

    Biggest negative change: It’s fair to wonder how much negative change a 1-15 team can experience, but Cleveland spent a lot of time working with Terrelle Pryor as he transitioned to wide receiver over the last two years and his 77 catches for 1,007 yards were a bright spot last season.

    They won’t reap any other rewards, however, as Pryor jumped to Washington as a free agent and the Browns will lean on Corey Coleman and Kenny Britt at wideout instead.

    Coaching thermometer: The Browns have not shown much patience with their coaches of late, but Hue Jackson starts his second year without much heat under his seat. That won’t remain the case if the team’s search for a long-term answer at quarterback continues to be a fruitless one, but the Browns have embraced a longer view than they have in some time and Jackson is central to it.

    We’d like to crack a beer with … Joe Thomas. Thomas has been through 10 seasons of losing with the Browns while playing for six head coaches and blocking for myriad quarterbacks. That’s a lot of fodder for stories and Thomas has the kind of personality that suggests they’d be good ones.

    How they can prove us wrong: If the offensive line gels as hoped, the Browns should be able to run the ball and take some pressure off that quarterback group. Put that with a defense that follows new coordinator Gregg Williams’ history by improving in his first season with a team and the Browns could be playing a lot of close games in 2017. Get a few to break their way and the Browns will be looking a lot better in the final set of power rankings.
     
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    PFT preseason power rankings No. 30: Chicago Bears
    Posted by Michael David Smith on July 11, 2017

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    Quarterback is such an important position in the NFL that it’s almost impossible to overpay for a good one. But the biggest question facing the Bears heading into the 2017 season is whether they overpaid for two bad ones.

    The twin surprising decisions to sign Mike Glennon to a three-year, $45 million contract and then to trade up to the second overall pick and draft Mitchell Trubiskyhave led to a great deal of scrutiny on the Bears.

    If Chicago had just spent the $6 million or so it would have taken to retain Brian Hoyer for another year, and the $2 million or so it would have taken to retain Matt Barkley for another year, and then drafted Trubisky with the third overall pick instead of trading up to second overall, there wouldn’t be nearly as much scrutiny.

    But the Bears apparently think that by taking chances on Glennon and Trubisky, they’re likely to find that one of them is the long-term answer at quarterback. That will likely mean Glennon starting at first and Trubisky getting every opportunity to supplant him at some point during the season. If one of the quarterbacks shows promise this season, great. If not, the Bears are in big trouble.

    Biggest positive change: The Bears will be healthier this year. How do we know that? Because they had so many injuries last year that they simply have to be healthier this year.

    FootballOutsiders.com uses a statistic called Adjusted Games Lost that factors in not just how many players missed games but how important those players were (so a starter missing time hurts more than a backup missing time), and how many players were ineffective because they were playing through injuries that had them listed as questionable on the injury report.

    Football Outsiders injury data goes back to 2000, and in that time no team was hit worse by injuries than the 2016 Bears. Regression toward the mean suggests that the Bears will be much healthier in 2017.

    Biggest negative change: The biggest negative change, really, is not much change at all: The Bears were 3-13 last year, and it’s hard to see where they’ve really improved significantly. The players they have should be healthier than last year, but is the talent any better? It doesn’t look that way, which is why it’s easy to envision another last-place finish in the NFC North.

    Coaching thermometer: John Fox’s seat isn’t exactly a boiling 212 degrees, but it’s probably around 175: He was brought in to replace Marc Trestman, who was fired after going 13-19 in two seasons, and Fox himself has done even worse, going 9-23 in two seasons. If the Bears aren’t showing signs of improvement at the end of the season, Fox may be sent packing.

    We’d like to crack a beer with . . . Jordan Howard. We’d like to get a beer or two in Howard and hear whether he’s envious at all of Ezekiel Elliott for being drafted into a much better situation than Howard was. As a rookie running back in Chicago last year, Howard finished second in the NFL in rushing yards, behind only Elliott.

    Yet Elliott was doing it on a good team, behind perhaps the league’s best offensive line, while Howard was doing it on a lousy team in Chicago. If Howard thinks he deserves a lot of the credit Elliott is getting (not to mention something more like Elliott’s four-year, $25 million rookie contract, as opposed to Howard’s four-year, $2.6 million contract), it would be hard to blame him.

    How they can prove us wrong: If either Glennon or Trubisky emerges as a good starting quarterback, Howard has another strong season and Fox gets his defense shaped up, it’s easy to see a healthier Bears team being a lot better than our No. 30 ranking suggests. But even if the Bears improve significantly, they’re likely to miss the playoffs for the seventh straight season.
     
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    Hue Jackson passes on both Goff and Wentz in last years draft. That leaves him with the questionable three. Here is an interesting article on Kessler with release time comparisons. He is the favorite to start. Kizer a big QB has some talent but was not consistent at Notre Dame.

    http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2017/07/cleveland_browns_have_terry_pl.html

    I find Cleveland interesting. Passing on the QBs and now rebuilding both lines. Looks like a good QB class next year so they could get to draft one and have the the infrastructure ready to go. Of course there is Kenny Britt to keep an eye on.
     
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    I rather like what Cleveland is doing. Great O-line, decent weapons on offense, very good coaching staff, some sick defensive players and the AFC North is getting wide open. I liked the way Kessler played last season, and Osweiler is house money.
     
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    PFT preseason power rankings No. 29: San Francisco 49ers
    Posted by Curtis Crabtree on July 11, 2017

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    The 49ers’ downward spiral that began with the ousting of Jim Harbaugh as head coach following the 2014 season has finally bottomed out. Now the 49ers are hoping they can pick up the pieces and surge back forward under new management both in the front office and on the sidelines.

    For the first time since the 49ers began to slip from the top of the league in 2014, there is legitimate optimism about the future of the franchise. However, that positive outlook for the future likely won’t include the upcoming campaign.

    The roster that remains is still lacking in top-tier talent in too many places. And while John Lynch’s first draft class provides a well-rounded infusion of young talent to the roster, it’s not likely to be enough to pull the 49ers out of the NFC West cellar.

    But the train appears to be back on the tracks for now, which is a step in the right direction.

    Biggest positive change: Trent Baalke is no longer making decisions related to the football team. The 49ers finally parted ways with their former G.M. after last season, bringing John Lynch into the fold instead. Baalke had whiffed on a large number of his draft picks in recent years.

    The most glaring was his 2012 class headlined by A.J. Jenkins that saw the entire seven-man class out of San Francisco within three seasons. The 49ers didn’t have replacements in place for aging stars such as Justin Smith and Patrick Willis and Aldon Smith, Ray McDonald and Bruce Miller provided repeated off-the-field issues for the team. It’s left the 49ers roster a shell of its former self.

    Biggest negative change: While it ultimately became an inevitability, the departure of Colin Kaepernick as starting quarterback has left the 49ers with low-ceiling options at the most important position on the field. While Kaepernick had his struggles in recent seasons, he also had two very solid years as a starter in 2013-14.

    Brian Hoyer and Matt Barkley don’t exactly bring excitement to the position and haven’t done enough in their careers to suggest a breakthrough is coming. Maybe C.J. Beathard develops in time, but it leaves the 49ers without a real long-term solution at quarterback in the interim.

    Coaching thermometer: With a complete regime change in place, Kyle Shanahan’s hot seat is nonexistent. After moving onto their fourth head coach in the last four seasons, Shanahan will get plenty of time to implement his new system and let Lynch rebuild the roster to best suit its functions. Jed York needs to give the group time to grow and turn the franchise around.

    We’d like to crack a beer with . . . Navorro Bowman. The stalwart of the 49ers defense has been through the good times and the bad in the Bay Area. Perhaps the best defensive player in the NFL not named J.J. Watt prior to his devastating knee injury in the 2013 playoffs, Bowman continues to produce for the 49ers even after missing an entire year recovering from injury.

    How they can prove us wrong: It would take a lot. Brian Hoyer builds upon his five starts last year in Chicago and performs at a league-average or better level. Carlos Hyde finally stays healthy and provides the consistent ground attack the 49ers need to take pressure off the passing game.

    Reuben Foster’s shoulder stays intact and allows him to compete for Rookie of the Year honors. Arik Armstead and DeForest Buckner find homes in the 49ers’ new 4-3 scheme to take their games to a higher level.
     
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    I'm kinda intrigued by the '9ers. Baalke was a giant turd in a cheap suit. They've got some defensive talent, and Hoyer is a nice player... upgrade from Kaepernick.
     
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    PFT Preseason power rankings No. 28: Jacksonville Jaguars
    Posted by Darin Gantt on July 12, 2017

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    The last several years, the Jaguars have teased with potential, while stockpiling young talent. Some of the wizards of the national media (raises hand) have thought they had the mark of an ascending playoff team.

    Instead, they cratered under former coach Gus Bradley, who was always upbeat and positive but also 14-48 in four seasons. While he can’t be blamed for the tear-down that had to happen before the rebuild, at some point the record matters and you have to proceed.

    They’re not going to be as cheerful this year with Doug Marrone coaching and Tom Coughlin watching over the top of the whole operation. But with the long-standing NFL truth that if the last guy was fat, the next one will be skinny, Jaguars ownership clearly thought they needed to be led with a firmer hand.

    But that discipline also has to come with better play, specifically from quarterback Blake Bortles, who has one last chance to prove he’s worth building around. By using the fourth overall pick in the draft on running back Leonard Fournette instead of another quarterback of the future, they have given Bortles his best chance to date to run a balanced offense.

    Ultimately, Bortles will determine the fate of this season and his own future. If he plays the way he did two years ago with more help, the team could rise. If he doesn’t, the stage will be set for the next reconstruction.

    Biggest positive change: The Jags have always had young talent on defense, which you need if you want to compete. But while winning the offseason again, they signed one of the league’s consummate professionals in defensive lineman Calais Campbell.

    Along with the additions of cornerback A.J. Bouye and safety Barry Church, it’s the kind of influx of veteran talent (and maturity) that should push all the youngsters like Jalen Ramsey and Myles Jack and Dante Fowler to realize the promise they’ve hinted at. The human talent is there. Now it has to become a good defense.

    Biggest negative change: They were already quite bad so everything’s relative. It would have been nice to see left tackle Branden Albert all-in after they acquired him in trade. But he stayed away from the offseason program waiting for a contract extension which wasn’t coming.

    In his absence, it’s clear the Jaguars still have some work to do up front, and that’s going to be an issue for them. Second-round tackle Cam Robinson seems like a good pick, but we’ve heard that before from the Jaguars.

    Coaching thermometer: Room temperature, which is probably a decent reflection of the state of the franchise. Marrone’s probably as safe as anyone in the short term, since he’s in his first full year and they seem to realize this might take a minute.

    We’d like to crack a beer with . . . Tom Coughlin, and we say that with the knowledge it’s probably more of a happy hour/early bird special situation than an all-nighter. The elder statesman is back where his NFL head coaching career began, now with Super Bowls on his resume and the kind of presence the team sorely lacked.

    Simply making people show up on time isn’t going to be enough to turn the team around, but Coughlin’s also at a different point in life than his first time in Jacksonville. He’s not a big personality per se, but he also has the experience that means he has plenty of great stories. Even if a lot of them are about the good old days and end up with him yelling at the kids to get off his lawn.

    How they can prove us wrong: Bortles can stop throwing so many interceptions. Jack grows into the role they envision in the middle (since they’ve bumped Paul Posluszny outside to make room for him). Fowler becomes the sack-producer they’ve been looking for for years. And all the other kids they’ve been pumping up finally play to their reputations.
     
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    That would have made more sense. I liked John Fox for his past defenses. Bears made a big gamble on Trubisky but, why spend the money on Glennon?
     
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    That's pretty impressive. The lost most of their games by 1 score or less, so with a little bit of luck they can win some games.
     
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    [QUOTE="Prime Time, post: 914212, member: 1191"]The most glaring was his 2012 class headlined by A.J. Jenkins that saw the entire seven-man class out of San Francisco within three seasons. The 49ers didn’t have replacements in place for aging stars such as Justin Smith and Patrick Willis and Aldon Smith, Ray McDonald and Bruce Miller provided repeated off-the-field issues for the team. It’s left the 49ers roster a shell of its former self.[/QUOTE]

    The last quote getting 0 for 7 on an entire draft class makes the Rams look OK. Hiring Lynch seems like a smart move. He got off to a good start with his first draft. Hopefully it will take a three years of or never for the Whiners to recover. I won't count on it but I can hope.
     
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    If Bortles is reasonably good, the Jags could be a 10-win team. Seriously talented roster. AFCS might be shaping up to be a hell of a division, with the Titans and Mariota becoming really dangerous, Luck in Indy and that insane pass rush in Houston.
     
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    And still no Rams??
    This is it boys, CHAMPIONSHIP !!
     
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    They could be ranked last and I still wouldn't give a crap what Florio and his legal team types out.
     
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    PFT preseason power rankings No. 27: Los Angeles Rams
    Posted by Curtis Crabtree on July 12, 2017

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    The Los Angeles Rams have not made the postseason since 2004. We don’t expect that to change in 2017.

    But that doesn’t mean the Rams are completely devoid of talent. Aaron Donald, Robert Quinn, Michael Brockers, Todd Gurley, Alec Ogletree and Trumaine Johnson are all legitimate pieces to build a team around. If Jared Goff can make a sizable jump in his second season – despite having to learn a completely new offense – the Rams could make some strides faster than expected.

    A year removed from the move from St. Louis to Los Angeles, the franchise is more settled in their routines and environments in Southern California. For a team that could never find consistency under Jeff Fisher, the change to Sean McVay gives the Rams a fresh start for the first time in five years.

    Biggest positive change: Mr. 7-9 is no longer coaching the team. The St. Louis/Los Angeles Rams perennially fell short during the Jeff Fisher era. While he certainly inherited a long-term mess to clean up when he came to the team, the Rams were still an enigma under Fisher.

    They’d get up for games against division rivals like San Francisco and Seattle and then fall flat against teams they had no business losing to. They also always played with an aggressive style that bordered on cheap and dirty too often. And despite having several stars on defense, they never could put together an offense capable of leading the team into the postseason.

    Biggest negative change: Kenny Britt was arguably the best player on offense for the Rams last season and now he’s in Cleveland. He was one of Jared Goff’s most reliable targets and was the first Rams’ receiver since 2007 to eclipse the 1,000-yard receiving mark in a season. Britt finished the year with 68 catches for 1,002 yards and five touchdowns.

    While Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp and Nelson Spruce might be able to fill the void, it again leaves Tavon Austin – who the Rams gave a ridiculously over-valued contract extension to last year – as a focal point of the offense despite being a somewhat awkward receiving/scat back hybrid.

    Coaching thermometer: While Sean McVay should get some time to turn the Rams’ fortunes around, his hot seat clocks in at a tepid 55 degrees. This is Los Angeles after all. The pressure to build a winner quickly will be substantial as the franchise tries to build a new footing in L.A.

    And while Jeff Fisher was shown the door, Les Snead remains as general manager. If Stan Kroenke’s finds reason to oust Snead after (or during) this season, a new G.M. could be given authority to bring in his own head coach for the future.

    We’d like to crack a beer with . . . Johnny Hekker. The Rams’ All-Pro punter has been the best in the league for several seasons and brings a great sense of humor along with him. We’d also like to ask exactly what the hell he was thinking when he decided it was a good idea to blindside Michael Bennett in Seattle two seasons ago.

    How they can prove us wrong: Sean McVay manages to tailor an offense to suit Jared Goff and Todd Gurley and get a significant spike in production. Wade Phillips manages to seamlessly convert a former 4-3 defense into a 3-4 front and not lose any productivity in the change.

    Aaron Donald and Robert Quinn continue to terrorize opposing offensive lines. Trumaine Johnson uses his franchise tag year to build an argument for the All-Pro team. If the Rams can find a way to be in the Wild Card discussion as the calendar hits December, they will have surpassed expectations.
     
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    I'd take a wild card berth in a second!
     
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    Rams bust out of the bottom eighth!:dizzy:
     
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    Jinxed it!
     
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    Kenny Britt... is NOT the biggest negative change. That is freaking ridiculous to even say.

    Sending him packing was addition by subtraction.

    That guy has the ability of a HOF'er and the mind of a freak up. Put those 2 together and you get jack crap.

    He will fit in perfectly in Cleveland.
     
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