OC Frank Cignetti

[A.J. Hicks]

This mans name has constantly come up as a name to look at with the Rams. While I understand this is his first year calling games in the NFL. I can't help but feel very optimistic about this opportunity for him and for our Rams.

I rewatched two games earlier today; the home game against the Hawks and the game against the Broncos. I couldn't help but notice, especially in the Hawks game, Schottys tendency to tuck his tail and call plays like a scared dog. Schotty has been around multiple teams and has always seemed to have that same play call style. . . Every once in a while he finds a great play (like the shovel pass to Benny against the Hawks) but without those great scripted plays he had nothing and no positive influence over the game whatsoever.

Plays come down to execution and that is the main point. But it seems like Schotty's teams weren't ever good at execution unless it was those scripted and practiced plays.

I feel like Cignetti has the opportunity to bring that stability of execution to our team. Something Schotty was never going to bring us.

 

[A.J. Hicks]

That call style seemed to be even more evident when we had a lead. Sure the goal is to grind out the clock with a lead, but that doesn't mean hand off an inside run (with Tavon fake sweeping) everytime.

 

[Corbin]

What are you talking about? It's not Schotty's fault he was predictable, unadaptable, and total worthless after his script ran out. It's amazing how people can roast him or criticize him now that he's no longer a Rams coach but when he was with the team defended him to the death " Here let me show you stats to why he is the second coming of Mike Martz ". -_- Dude was ultimate doo doo.

Way to use Tavon up the gut Shottenheimer!

 

[den-the-coach]

Here's what I truly like best about Frank Cignetti:

1. He's not Brian Schottenheimer

Here's the number two reason I like Frank Cignetti:

2. See the number one reason.

 

[Fatbot]

Hm I have to disagree with a couple points in this thread, first that nobody criticized Schotty when he was with the Rams. Many defended him, sure, but probably just as many or more were very critical.

Second is the point about Schotty "calling plays scared". I just don't know if this is fair or discounting his head coach philosophy too much. We will see what Fisher allows from Cignetti, but when your head coach is known for preaching winning 13-10, I doubt the play calling will be very wide open or courageous. Hopefully there's a line somewhere in there where the offense can be conservative like Fisher wants, but still creative and explosive at times.

 

[LACHAMP46]

Execution is on the players....so are audibles out of a fucked play (QB)....But the 2nd half adjustments, ALL SCHOTTY

 

[Corbin]

Hm I have to disagree with a couple points in this thread, first that nobody criticized Schotty when he was with the Rams. Many defended him, sure, but probably just as many or more were very critical.

Second is the point about Schotty "calling plays scared". I just don't know if this is fair or discounting his head coach philosophy too much. We will see what Fisher allows from Cignetti, but when your head coach is known for preaching winning 13-10, I doubt the play calling will be very wide open or courageous. Hopefully there's a line somewhere in there where the offense can be conservative like Fisher wants, but still creative and explosive at times.

Going to have to disagree with your disagreement. I had multiple posts deleted regarding my displeasure of Schotty and his crap play calling. Same with a lot of others, hence we need to stay within a certain range to keep Rams FO or players coming here I guess there can't be to many radical/bashing posts. Outside of drinking the Kool Aid and blaming Schotty's failures for what the were a lot of people were labeled as negative or a Debbie downer for calling it like it was.

One famous way to discredit any Shottenheimer criticism for years has been " Fisher does it this way or that way and holds the reigns on Brian".
Exactly what part of Brian's history tells you he knew how to open anything up at all? He ran the ball anywhere he's been which goes along with a Fisher scheme so this bogus excuse is busted.

Doesn't anybody think it odd Schotty went hunting and got another job this year? I know he has been interviewing for years but they way this off season transpired I can't be the only who seemed to realize due to the classy coach in Fisher we have he probably told Brian to go hunt jobs this year because he's going to be let go.

They realized he wasn't using the tools and weapons given to him to their full advantage. Cook has been on the record as elated and you know Tavon was happy.

I have a feeling Cignetti will do a damn good job. He have decent upgrades to the QB and OC positions this year. We should be able to put up some more points!

 

[yrba1]

Remember when Schotty tried to run a pass happy offense in the first four games of the season in 2013? Any excuse for Fisher limiting playcalling is out of the water. Schotty was a mediocre OC who relied on scripted plays.

Not gonna drink the koolaid yet until Cignetti earns his stripes, hopefully his gameplan is as advertised and relies on execution rather than play-design.

 

[DR RAM]

I wish Cignetti the very best, but he will never be good enough for all of us. Just won't happen, no matter what.

 

[snackdaddy]

I don't know how good, or bad, Cignetti will be. But like Den said, he's not Brian Schottenheimer. Thats one in his favor.

My biggest gripe with Schotty was his 2nd half adjustments. If they played well in the first half and the defense adjusted at halftime, he as terrible with his own adjustments.

My next biggest gripe was his inability to figure out how to get Tavon Austin the ball in space. He can be an exciting and explosive player, yet his stats make him look like a possession receiver who doesn't catch the ball much. How much of that is Tavon I don't know. Which is why its my second biggest gripe.

 

[leoram]

I don't care

I wish Cignetti the very best, but he will never be good enough for all of us. Just won't happen, no matter what.

who he is good enough to please. I just want to win again

 

[551staaa]

Not that I would be one to say "I told you so", but I got ripped pretty good when I posted that Schottenheimer has to go in the fourth quarter of the Minnesota game. When a defense keyed in on his game plan, he had no answers.

 

[ramsince62]

I wish Cignetti the very best, but he will never be good enough for all of us. Just won't happen, no matter what.

Perhaps, but for now, I'd just like to know how good he is.

 

[Dodgersrf]

If our oline doesn't play well, early and often, people will be asking for Franks job as well.

 

[Robocop]

best case scenario is that Cignetti has some copies of Schotty's scripted plays YET knows how to adapt and continue to attack in the second half using the weapons we have CORRECTLY.

 

[Corbin]

I wish Cignetti the very best, but he will never be good enough for all of us. Just won't happen, no matter what.

If our oline doesn't play well, early and often, people will be asking for Franks job as well.

The great things is Cignetti's offense doesn't have to be top notch pairing with our stellar defense so that we go deep into the playoffs. I don't know anybody who's criticizing Schotty thinks we are going to have a top 5 offense in 2015, we just need someone who doesn't smoke a blunt at halftime but actually stays in the game.

Hell if Cignetti's offense is ranked 15 and goes with our playoff caliber defense we are wild card contenders at the minimum.


If we do have O-Line problems I can accept that with rookies getting their first taste of the NFL I just ask he play to his particular players strengths which usually works the majority of the time. Even the offensive guru Mike Martz stated that's one of the biggest thing he regrets is not playing to some of his best players abilities at times because it never works out otherwise.

 

[den-the-coach]

Perhaps, but for now, I'd just like to know how good he is.

Five Days until training camp, but as of right now Frank Cignetti is a freaking Genius!

 

[den-the-coach]

A beautiful sight for Ram fans not so much if you're an alum of that team in Athens, GA.

 

[Corbin]

Five Days until training camp, but as of right now Frank Cignetti is a freaking Genius!

LMAO I <3 U Den!

I feel sorry for Bulldogs fans in the second half this next season! Saban is going to school his ass!

 

[HE WITH HORNS]

I don't think he can be much worse than Schotty. And I could have come up with better ways to use Tavon than he did. I mean how hard is it to run a real reverse once a game at least? He did fake end arounds several times a game, with the real run going up the middle. Which got stuffed, while I seen Tavon get around the CB almost every time, while being used as a decoy.