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Need some advice...

Discussion in 'OFF TOPIC' started by ScotsRam, Jun 25, 2014.

  1. ScotsRam Well-Known Member

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    Hello. I need some impartial advice so I thought asking strangers on the internet might help.

    I've been offered a new job. It's much more money, more responsibility and more autonomy. Do I take it?

    The flip-side is that my current role has better long-term prospects and is more aligned to my personal values (i will effectively be selling out if I take the new post).

    What would you do?
     
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  2. RhodyRams Well-Known Member

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    me...I'd go with the best long term prospects
     
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  3. Prime Time RODerator

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    I don't do anything that might change my life or the life of my family unless I have peace about it. When a new door of opportunity opens, take time to check yourself out. Are you at peace about this decision or do you have a knot in your gut? It sounds like the latter. Don't make a move like that until you have peace about it. Every stupid decision I ever made can be traced back to not following that rule.
     
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  4. Boston Ram Well-Known Member

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    Hard to say without knowing the type of job and values. My house is a one income house, so I take the money almost everytime. Im in sales and there are plenty of technology sales jobs in my area so its easier for me to move around if needed. Primetime makes a great point though, you have to be at peace about it.
     
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  5. LACHAMP46 Well-Known Member

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    Depends...age, how much more $$$$, will it disrupt your family, what do you mean, "selling out"? Several things go into personal satisfaction and ones employment. What you enjoy today, you may not enjoy tomorrow. Autonomy is always cool..Responsibility, esp, like say, firing people, kinda sucks...If you're married, I'd talk it over with the wifey. Me personally, I'd go with the $$$$, if you don't like it, after a while go to something else..Don't pigeon-hole yourself in one field...life's a big oyster, take a bite outta everything, don't be afraid to make mistakes....good luck
     
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  6. ScotsRam Well-Known Member

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    If I do the new job for a couple years it'll boost my employability elsewhere. So I can always re-evaluate at that point- I'll be able to progress somewhere even if it's not with the new company.

    Thanks for the responses so far, very helpful.
     
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  7. ScotsRam Well-Known Member

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    It's a £6k (roughly $9k) pay rise. I'm 25 and don't have any dependants. I need to make more money to pay student debt and start saving for a deposit for a house.

    It's actually a really hard decision haha
     
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  8. Dieter the Brock SON OF JEN-ORIS

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    Do it
    And with all that autonomous time use it to your advantage
    The extra money plus not having to work with too many idiots getting in your way is extremely valuable

    Is there a chance for a raise at your current gig though? - can you pull a Lebron?
     
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  9. VegasRam Just proud to be here.

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    Take it - experience everything you can. More money, more autonomy - what's not to like.
    Also, (not lecturing), but what might seem like 'selling out' at age 25, probably isn't.
     
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  10. beej New Member

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    I'm not sure what you mean by selling out. To some it means switching from ford to Chevy and to others it means abandoning their faith. Everyone is different.

    The one thing I can tell you is that things that seemed like selling out to me when I was 25 seem pretty minor to me now at 45 and things I took with a grain of salt then mean the world to me now.
     
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  11. Rams and Gators Well-Known Member Pit Boss

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    When in doubt flip a coin.

    Let me explain that, I truly believe that in a situation like this part of you knows what to do, you'll either be pleased at the result of the toss or disappointed and over rule it. If neither of those happen then just go along with it anyway, they are both equally as appealing options.
     
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  12. RamFan503 Grill and Brew Master

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    Several years ago I was presented with an offer that was more money - about $10k per year, came with a house, had allegedly much greater autonomy, and held serve with the benefit package I had at the time. I was happy and truly respected where I was, had pretty good autonomy, and respected my employers. As it turned out, the move was a total nightmare. What I thought was greater autonomy was a lie. It ended up being endless reports and sometimes two hour phone meetings. Because the little dipshit owner was out of the area, he was very paranoid of what he couldn't witness every day. His version of autonomy was whack. Then I found out that no one in his office knew about the contract we had signed and they were not getting anywhere near the benefit package he promised me so that created a huge firestorm that had him trying to feed me crap off the books so his staff wouldn't know. (run on sentence anyone?)

    The good of all of it was that I was able to finish the remodel on the house I owned (not living in it helped tremendously), move my kids to a better school district, and then have him fly in for a meeting so I could personally tell him to go freak himself - essentially forcing him to fire my ass. I used the time on unemployment to research restaurant locations, standardize recipes, and do market analysis before opening a restaurant. I don't make as much money as I did working for that bastard but I have never regretted the new me and my family totally agrees.

    Bottom line is that I would see if you can find the track record of how others have faired when taking the position you are contemplating and then also trust your instincts on what you think about the person you will be working directly under. If I would have done those things, I at minimum would have been ready for what was to come my way and I probably would have been less of an ass to those around me.
     
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  13. ScotsRam Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the perspectives guys, it really is helpful.

    By selling out I mean leaving the National Health Service (the UKs state health service- great pensions and holidays but crappy salaries) and moving to the private sector. What I do now has a direct impact on patient care and moving to the private sector means I will lose that.
     
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  14. Force16X anti pedestrian

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    how important is your direct impact on patient care to you ? thats the kicker. when faced with a major life decision i go by the old rule, if the decision creates more positives than negatives in your life (or seems to at point of decision), then go for it, if it will create more negatives then back away. as silly as it sounds, make a list and compare the good with the bad. rarely does a big decision come without some drawbacks to it. good luck either way.
     
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  15. VegasRam Just proud to be here.

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    I rescind EVERYTHING I said previously.
    If you are with the government, (doesn't matter the country), STAY THERE.
    You cannot get fired, automatic raises, vetted after 20 years- does not matter whether it's local, state or Feds, the money NEVER RUNS OUT!
    Stay - seriously.
     
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  16. RamFan503 Grill and Brew Master

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    Sad but mostly true.
     
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  17. VegasRam Just proud to be here.

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    To be continued...
     
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  18. Dodgersrf Well-Known Member

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    Go where you enjoy the work.
    If you like the work your doing now and have legitimate opportunities for advancement, then you should think long and hard about staying put.
     
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  19. ScotsRam Well-Known Member

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    Time for an update- I took the job.

    Thanks to all for the advice, it was genuinely really helpful.
     
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  20. Rams and Gators Well-Known Member Pit Boss

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    Good luck.
     
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