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Pierre Desir having a rough game too.
 

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NFLN Announcer (Manziel Homer): "The ball hit him right in the kneecap, that's where you want to put that ball."

WHAT?!?!?!?! It's catchable but the ball at knee level is not where a crossing route should be.
 

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NFLN Announcer (Manziel Homer): "The ball hit him right in the kneecap, that's where you want to put that ball."

WHAT?!?!?!?! It's catchable but the ball at knee level is not where a crossing route should be.
Low and behind is the toughest catch to make...bar none...right jrry32?
 

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Low and behind is the toughest catch to make...bar none...right jrry32?

It can be. I was better at catching the low and behind ones than the high and behind ones because I couldn't really pull off the one-handed catches as well as I could make a sliding catch.

But yea, I'd say that's true for the majority of football players (low and behind being the toughest). The ball wasn't behind him so much, though. It was just low and the WR didn't seem to know he was getting the ball so he didn't react. It was catchable. It just wasn't put where it should be like the announcers claimed. And they claimed it after watching the replay which was the craziest part. :LOL:
 

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It can be. I was better at catching the low and behind ones than the high and behind ones because I couldn't really pull off the one-handed catches as well as I could make a sliding catch.

But yea, I'd say that's true for the majority of football players (low and behind being the toughest). The ball wasn't behind him so much, though. It was just low and the WR didn't seem to know he was getting the ball so he didn't react. It was catchable. It just wasn't put where it should be like the announcers claimed. And they claimed it after watching the replay which was the craziest part. :LOL:
Running and bending is NOT natural, at all, especially if you have to slow down or stop. Jumping...no prob.
 

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Running and bending is NOT natural, at all, especially if you have to slow down or stop. Jumping...no prob.

Nope, not at all natural. Very hard to do.
 

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Nope, not at all natural. Very hard to do.
Announcers always seem to praise a jumping catch, but rarely praise a low, and behind catch. Anything behind is tougher. Laying out, or jumping, is pure instinct.
 

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Johnny still showed a lot that concerned me in college. He is very much a one read and run QB. While exciting at times, that won't work in the league. Also when that pocket gets shaky he almost panics. Not Blaine Gabbert bad, but bad none the less. The guy does have some skills, it's just unfortunate that he will be thrust into the starting role way before he is ready.
 

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He looked like a rookie last night.

The good: quick release, strong ball, showed some accuracy, guy can run

The bad; quick to scramble, pocket presence wasn't very good, put his body in harms way

It's been announced he'll start the next preseason game, so we get a chance to see him with the starters.
 

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He looked like a rookie last night.

The good: quick release, strong ball, showed some accuracy, guy can run

The bad; quick to scramble, pocket presence wasn't very good, put his body in harms way

It's been announced he'll start the next preseason game, so we get a chance to see him with the starters.
I think he will start week 1.
 

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I think he will start week 1.

I thought Hoyer played better last night. But I think you are right; the hype machine will anoint him starter.
 

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I'm in the minority. I thought Johnny had an OK debut. Most of his passes were on target, and he threw good out of the pocket for a QB with a scrambled reputation.