Late hit by Ogletree triggers brawl/PD

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Late hit by Ogletree triggers brawl
• By Jim Thomas

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/foot...cle_6a6e62c7-4849-5ad6-b261-a5f461902c56.html

Safety T.J. McDonald said the Rams’ defense plays with an edge. In Sunday’s 37-27 loss to the New York Giants, the defense went over the edge.

Penalties for late hits by McDonald and linebacker Alec Ogletree in the first half both came for roughing up Giants wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. out of bounds. The second one, by Ogletree, precipitated a bench-clearing fracas on the New York sideline.

“I hit him in-bounds,” Ogletree said. “Whatever happened after that, it is what it is. I don’t know.”

The problem was, Ogletree kept hitting Beckham until he was several yards out of bounds, drawing the flag. Beckham responded by throwing the football at Ogletree’s face. Ogletree tried to strike back, and the next thing you know there were a couple of dozen players from both teams going at it.

Ogletree didn’t offer up much of an explanation on his miscue.

“Like I said, it’s over with now,” he said. “I hated that it happened, but I can’t do nothing about it now.”

By the time referee Pete Morelli and his crew cleaned things up, three players were ejected: defensive end Williams Hayes of the Rams, and wide receiver Preston Parker and defensive end Damontre’ Moore of the Giants.

Hayes said he was ejected for throwing a punch in the scuffle, which occurred with 2 minutes, 10 seconds to go in the half.

“I was running to the ball,” Hayes said. “When I saw the flag go up, I started walking back to the huddle. And then I saw somebody just come in and blast ‘Tree’ in the back. So I was going over there to try to take care of the situation, to get ‘Tree’ up out of there.

“Next thing I know, somebody grabbed me. I turned around, my helmet came off, a guy threw a punch at me, then I just retaliated.”

Hayes spent the rest of the game in the Rams’ locker room.

“I just sat in here with my head down,” Hayes said. “It’s tough. I wanted to go out there and fight with my brothers, and I wasn’t able to. It’s just a bad situation.”

BECKHAM’S DAY

The Rams may have been riled up because, according to coach Jeff Fisher, “Someone said (Beckham) came out and said he was going to set an NFL record today against the defense early this morning. I was told that. I don’t know.”

Actually, Beckham did set a couple of Giants franchise records Sunday after catching eight passes for 148 yards and two TDs. He now has 11 TD catches for the season, which is a Giants rookie record. And his 79 catches also set a Giants single-season rookie mark.

It also was the eighth consecutive game for the rookie from LSU with at least 90 receiving yards.

JOYNER PLAYS

Cornerback and safety Lamarcus Joyner, who had missed the past five games — the first few because of a groin injury — was active Sunday for the Rams. Things could’ve gone better. Joyner was part of a busted coverage that led to Beckham’s second TD, an 80-yard score in the final minute of the third quarter.

With Beckham and Rueben Randle split out to the right, both Joyner and Trumaine Johnson took the underneath route (Randle). That left Beckham free to run downfield with only safety Mark Barron to beat, which he did for the TD.

SITTING IT OUT

With a largely healthy roster, there were few surprises on the team’s inactive list, which consisted of CB Marcus Roberson, TE Justice Cunningham, C/G Barrett Jones, OG Brandon Washington, TE Alex Bayer, DT Alex Carrington and DE Ethan Westbrooks.

INJURY UPDATE

Rams cornerback E.J. Gaines left in the second half with concussion symptoms and a lacerated lip.
 

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Beckham is the one that brought all this on, did you see how he was acting out there? He's the biggest prick I've ever seen on the field.
 

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Beckham is the one that brought all this on, did you see how he was acting out there? He's the biggest prick I've ever seen on the field.

Fate, I wish I could like this a million times.
 

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Beckham is the one that brought all this on, did you see how he was acting out there? He's the biggest prick I've ever seen on the field.
I wouldn't say the biggest prick, but he certainly is full of himself. I agree that he was clearly the instigator for most of what happened today though, he seemed to a ton of taunting with words and actions, before and during the game. But yeah, the Rams are the "dirty" team, going after players because they "enjoy fighting more than winning". :rolleyes:
 

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I wouldn't say the biggest prick, but he certainly is full of himself. I agree that he was clearly the instigator for most of what happened today though, he seemed to a ton of taunting with words and actions, before and during the game. But yeah, the Rams are the "dirty" team, going after players because they "enjoy fighting more than winning". :rolleyes:

The way I see it, when it gets to that it's put up or shut up, and he definitely put up. Although I hate to see a player acting like an ass, especially when they're torching us, but if our players can't keep their cool and shut him up the right way, then I think it's on them.
 

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Guys like that end up getting "cheap shotted" by someone...at some point...

and folks who don't know will wonder what happened and truly believe he's a victim.

If you're on offense, the FIRST rule of survival is to NOT paint a target on yourself. This idiot is covering himself in more targets than those crosshairs on a crash dummy. And when he DOES get just LIT UP... probably by someone in his division... he can thank is flapping gums... which he should hope are still attached.

I mean, Andrew Luck psyches defenders out by praising the big hits and being a good sport. You just don't see guys wanting to put EXTRA on that hit on Luck like they do with guys who run a lot of gloss.

Guys like Beckham... defenders want to blast his sternum out the back of his uniform as if the Alien decided to go out the back...

Defenseless receiver? Yeah, no foolin'. When, not if, that fool gets lit up... there'll be all sorts of clucking, but he'll know.
 

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The way I see it, when it gets to that it's put up or shut up, and he definitely put up. Although I hate to see a player acting like an ass, especially when they're torching us, but if our players can't keep their cool and shut him up the right way, then I think it's on them.

The way I see it, Rodney McLeod should've knocked Beckham into the Stone Age for all of the shit he was talking and the punch he threw at Ogletree. Legal? No. Worth it? Fuck yeah.
 

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Beckham is the one that brought all this on, did you see how he was acting out there? He's the biggest prick I've ever seen on the field.
all you gotta do is look at his hair to know he's the biggest tool in the woodshed
 

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If you're on offense, the FIRST rule of survival is to NOT paint a target on yourself. This idiot is covering himself in more targets than those crosshairs on a crash dummy. And when he DOES get just LIT UP... probably by someone in his division... he can thank is flapping gums... which he should hope are still attached.

To be fair, OBJ is just like Finnegan. Finnegan talked shit all the time and before his massive decline, backed it up pretty well.

Steve Smith does it all the time, but backs his shit up.

OBJ talks shit and backs it up.

Our players talk shit game in and game out, especially Jenkins, and usually get their asses handed to them on silver platers.

Fact is, I wish we had players who could talk shit AND back it up.

OBJ got into our players head completely and they broke like petulant fucking children. They have NO ONE but THEMSELVES to blame for letting him into their heads and proceeding to shit the bed.
 

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I have to disagree that the play was a late hit first and second that the hit was what initiated the fight. Tree was walking away after Beckham threw the ball and tried to kick him when Parker hit him from behind, that is what started the fight.

As for the talking I would just as soon they all keep their mouths shut and let their play do the talking. This team has not even had a winning season in a decade WTF do they have to talk about. Fisher is weak in discipline and it is showing throughout the team. Enough of the dumbshit antics they need some leadership that won't put up with that non-sense.
 

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I have to disagree that the play was a late hit first and second that the hit was what initiated the fight. Tree was walking away after Beckham threw the ball and tried to kick him when Parker hit him from behind, that is what started the fight.

As for the talking I would just as soon they all keep their mouths shut and let their play do the talking. This team has not even had a winning season in a decade WTF do they have to talk about. Fisher is weak in discipline and it is showing throughout the team. Enough of the dumbshit antics they need some leadership that won't put up with that non-sense.

It's a no call to me, he rode him and they were going down just after stepping out of bounds, there was no way at that point he could pull up. It looked bad because they were so far out of bounds.
 

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I didn't watch the whole game... my son's buddy is a Bills fan and never gets to watch them, so we watched that.

Want to feel better? Try rooting for the Bills. :) Your playoff hopes hinge on beating the lowly Raiders, and you fail. :oops:

Listening to the radio a little while ago, seemed like the The Turn felt the Ogletree hit was a penalty. Like I said, I did not se it.

Football is a game of strategy... one of those strategies seems to be "getting into the other team's head". Most of that revolves around trash talking.

I'm old and I know it went on back in the day... but it seems to me that it's reached new levels over the past 15 years or so.

Trash talking - if you can't back it up - is just that... trash.
 

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Ogletree rode him to the ground when all he needed to do was push him out. Like it or not, it's going to be called every time.

The real problem is EVERY TIME the Rams let a player or team get into their head, they lose. Letting a rookie cost you by getting your head is amatuer hour.

Beckham owned the Rams. He screwed with their heads and dominated them on the field. If he were a Ram we'd all be praising his effectiveness and probably his attitude.
 

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Ogletree rode him to the ground when all he needed to do was push him out. Like it or not, it's going to be called every time.

The real problem is EVERY TIME the Rams let a player or team get into their head, they lose. Letting a rookie cost you by getting your head is amatuer hour.

Beckham owned the Rams. He screwed with their heads and dominated them on the field. If he were a Ram we'd all be praising his effectiveness and probably his attitude.

Absolutely. He dominated our heads as well as the scoreboard. That's superstar stuff right there.