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Kroenke’s silence not helping Rams fans deal with dome dilemma

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by -X-, Feb 3, 2014.

  1. RamFan503 Grill and Brew Master

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    What? You don't? freakin' peasant.
     
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  2. ReddingRam Well-Known Member

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    Because billionaires don't become billionaires by buying things or starting a business just to sit at the same value or take a dip. Their egos alone won't go for that.
     
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  3. rhinobean Well-Known Member

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    I believe he has 4 Billion.
     
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  4. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Four billion .... dollars.

    freak.
     
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  5. rhinobean Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, we live in the real world!
     
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  6. ReddingRam Well-Known Member

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    An his wife has another 6 Billion!
     
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  7. rhinobean Well-Known Member

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    Shh! Don't tell the sportswriters at the PD!
     
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  8. LosAngelesRams Janoris Ogletree

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    Possibly, from all the crap I've been reading its a big deal. Also, I was reading that right now the Rams are in the top 4th of worse fan attendance right now so if he used that it might work for him.
     
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  9. rhinobean Well-Known Member

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    I'm going with something Shane G put out. The CVC will throw in 200 million or so, NFL gives him a loan and Stan foots the rest for HIS stadium! It seems reasonable to me!
     
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  10. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    Let's say you and I both own the same kind of classic sports car. This year they are worth 30k. I sell mine, you keep yours.

    Who has more money?

    So five years later that car is worth 40k but you don't sell yours.

    Who has more money?
     
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  11. RamFan503 Grill and Brew Master

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    Well I do. Because you know what they say about you and your money. :p


    Another scenario:

    Say you have a basic garage full of million dollar cars. You don't drive any of them. You just show them around and let your friends come and sit in them every once in a while. The rest of your buddies that collect cars have elaborate showrooms on lavish estates that house their cars. You go out and buy a rare convertible Ferrari worth 3 million dollars to add to your collection and for something really cool to be seen in. You also own a beautiful estate in Malibu. Do you keep the Ferrari in your old garage? Or do you build a showroom cooler than the ones your buddies have and drive it down the PCH with the top down?

    Or how about we both have 85 Camaros. We have no intention of selling them because we also both have mullets. I take mine to Japan. Whose is worth more?
     
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  12. fearsomefour Well-Known Member

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    It depends on his perspective I guess. Most business people like to increase worth at every opportunity and would never say never to selling. But, that is of course just speaking in general terms.
    I agree he has shown no inclination to sell teams off....frankly even the bad NFL teams tend to gain in worth. The fee is an interesting point. The worth of the team, no matter how it is measured, would be much greater being the only NFL team in a city of 8 million (including outlying areas) as compared to a city of under a million. The value of a new stadium in LA would be worth more than a new stadium in St. Louis....the tax implication is another big point. Would LA give him a sweet heart tax break? Who knows, probably not.
    I think the odds are the team stays in St. Louis. Kroenke is a smart guy, he isent going to give more informaton or tip his hand either way. Me personally, I am not reading too much into the land purchase in LA.
     
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  13. fearsomefour Well-Known Member

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    Your last sentence is very valid. I doubt the NFL is gonna give Ol Stan exclusivity rights for LA for his fee. As for it being a billion, that is just guessing.

    From Forbes:
    #31 St. Louis Rams
    Value: $780 million
    Profit: $6.7 million

    This was post 2011 season. Is that profit number believable? Who knows how accurate that is. Cowboys post a profit of over $200 million (with a shiny new stadium). The article went on to say the Rams also ranked near the bottom in stadium revenue.
    How much would upgrades to the dome change those numbers? I have no idea, just as I have no idea who the value of a franchise in LA would jump to. But it would jump.
    The Whiners new stadium is costing $1.3 billion and the Whiners are paying $24.5 million a year to lease it. If the Rams can land a similiar sort of deal it does make sense to pay $25-30 million a year in rent to push the value of the business over a billion dollars and increase profits? Certainly doesnt seem silly to me.
    The thing that interests me is how is it defined what a top third of the league stadium is (or whatever the working is regarding upgrades to the Dome)? Im sure there is detail there, related to revenue generating abilities, but, anything one can find to read about it is so vague.
    So it really comes down to what Stan wants (duh).
     
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  14. bluecoconuts Well-Known Member

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    Where is this billion dollar charge to move to LA figure coming from?
     
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  15. Dog Well-Known Member Pit Boss

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    um.....why dont you back away from the pepper sauce there Tonto....??

    hahahaha....I dont care who you are....the above is fukken hilarious!
     
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  16. Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    Don't you mean a person other than you,I mean if someone gave you a billion dollars would you refuse it?

    How could someone who wasn't a billionaire, or close, afford to pay the players salaries ?

    BTW don't take the reply personally,it's just that someone out here in ROD land thought you were serious
     
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  17. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Of course I wouldn't refuse it.
    And yeah, I'm upset because I don't have it.
     
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  18. Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    Yeah I knew that and forgive me for reacting but IMO the bigotry against extreme financial success is palpable and it still is directed wrongfully at a real life human being who has every right to be free of stereotypes as any of the rest of us.
    It's always perplexed me how someone can get all cross ways at Stan who had a fraction of the financial wherewithal Sam Bradford has today at the same age,and turn around and cheer Sam for playing a game .
    What do people think Donald Trump's net worth was when he was Sam's age?

    I guess I'm just sayin the outrage is sort of selective and it effects immeasurably things like whether St. Louis retains this franchise and if they lose it the reality that WHEN they want another one the price is gonna be higher and OH YEAH the class envy card is the primary tool of the head "tool" at the PD.

    Thanks for reading

    T:rolleyes:
     
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  19. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Agreed. I'm capitalist by nature, so I don't care if he has a trillion dollars.
    I'm just jealous. :cry:
     
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  20. Thordaddy Binding you with ancient logic

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    Yup and FWIW so is Bernie ,but you admit it, he uses it to array people against the object of his jealousy,but hey IMA help ya toward the trillion in ROD dollars with a like on that last post(y)
     
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