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Kap Is An Example Of A Qb That Can Beat You With His Arm And His Legs.

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by NorCalRamFan, Jan 19, 2014.

  1. ChrisW

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    Game managers. Sure, sometimes they make plays with their legs, but to beat SEA in the superbowl all DEN has to do is stack the box and stop Marshawn. RW isn't going to beat you for 4 quarters like Peyton can.
     
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    his arms and legs sure helped him tonight, 3 turn overs in the 4th, the guy sucks.
     
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    9er QB is the new Mike Vick one read, half the field then go. He may never learn to read defenses he just has the luxury of a stacked team Alex Smith is a much better QB.
     
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    Pretty terrible crunchtime by both these QB's. Kaepernick turned the ball over 3 times in the 4th quarter and should have been picked again on principle for making the same bad read just plays after the pick. Wilson was totally lost. Bad throws, fumbles, coudn't even hand the ball off well.

    Fisher and Arians are building this type of team with good defense and a running game but the Rams and Cardinals are going to have a good QB's on top of that. Rams and Cardinals will overtake this division because of it in short order.
     
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    Busy trying to play like a real QB.
    Has not been doing well lately though.
     
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    Kap and Wilson were both terrible in Sundays game. Kap did his usual look and run routine. Wilson took points off the board several times for his team by thinking he was Fran Tarkington and running around like a tool. Neither guy can read well, in the case of Wilson a couple of times seeming surprised by obvious blitzes, neither guy steps up in the pocket. Both guys reley on good run games and great defenses. Kap has shown no ability to make plays....Im not talking about a 40 yard run with no contain and 4 broken tackles, the guy can cover ground for sure, but from the pocket late fourth quarter. He is not a good QB at this point, although he may end up being great. Wilson showed his youth today. He turned the wrong way on a couple of handoffs, fumbled twice, caused Lynch to fumble at the 1 took sacks he helped create.
    The good news is it would appear a team can be very successful with average QB play if the D is good enough. So, we may not be that far away.
     
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    He's the man,,, he's the man,,, he's the man...

    :rofl:

    You can tell everybody...
     
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    #68 PowayRamFan, Jan 19, 2014
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    He's a great runner, they should try him at RB...
     
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    Kaepernick is the new McNabb. He will mess up when the pressure is on.
     
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    :buttkisser:=Norcal and Kaepernick enjoy a steamy night together.
     
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    I wonder if RGIII's deficiencies would have continued to be masked if the Redskins had a stellar defense? I don't really see much difference in any of these 3 QB's but 2 of them are still on very good "teams".
     
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    I agree. He is a lot bigger than Vick so should be able to take the hits better when running. He is a great runner but at the end of the day an NFL quarterback is going to have to make plays from the pocket. Kap is a very hard worker so his game may evolve more and a lot faster than Vick....I hope not, but, if he fails it wont be because of lack of work ethic.
     
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    Interesting question. Being able to hand the ball off 30 + times and throw for less than 200 yards a game like Kap and win 10+ games based on stellar D....I bet RGKnee would be another of the "new generation" QBs getting hyped up.
     
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    Bigger than Vick not Mcnabb.
     
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    Certainly seems like the case. It really punctuates the struggles CK is having when he's got Boldin, Crabtree and Davis and can't get much done passing. He should have an open guy all the time.
     
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    The guy is the 2nd coming if Randall Cunningham...abeit not quite as good as passer. He pretty much takes one look and if his primary is covered he takes off.

    I actually think Alex Smith wins this game as a game manager that avoids turnovers and takes what the D gives him.
     
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    Yeah, the 49ers are going to have to fix that aspect of their plan of attack. This year and last year they counted on CK to have huge rushing days and IMO, that's a recipe for failure.
     
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    Agreed. He's never had stability. NEVER!!!!
     
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    That is a really good comparison actually. Cunningham even had the same sort of slow delivery the Kap does. Randall could just throw a beautiful pass though. Kaepernick may get there as a passer but he is not there yet. This is what drives me crazy about the hype he receives. If he were on a team where he had to make plays for his team to win every week he would considered what he is, an exceptionally athletic QB who is a bottom third of the league passer.
     
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    Oh please. Kap is an example of a QB that can get beat by you whether he uses his arms or legs.