Jo-lonn Dunbar has been released

[Rabid Ram]

This just isnt fishers style he even held out and got value out of pacman jones

 

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http://www.stlouisrams.com/team/roster.html
Still shows him on official sites roster

It won't for long. That's the last thing that gets addressed. First they have to come out with a statement. There could be more to this than we know too. Could be a cap savings move and they'll bring him back once the season starts. We don't know the whole story yet.

If true at this point cant any other team pick him up

Yep, but he still has to serve his suspension.

 

[Rabid Ram]

Suspension or no the kid has talent why wouldn't another team say sf or Seattle pick him uo before season begins

 

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By Howard Balzer for KSDK Sports
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(KSDK Sports) -- Rams coach Jeff Fisher wasn't pleased when linebacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar was suspended for the first four games of the season for violating the NFL's policy on performance enhancing drugs.

Tuesday, we learned just how disappointed when they terminated Dunbar's contract just as he is beginning his suspension.

Dunbar was set to be the team's starting strong-side linebacker when the suspension came down. He played on the weak side last season, and stayed on the field in passing situations where he struggled at times.

The selection of Alec Ogletree in the first round of the draft resulted in Dunbar switching sides, and Ogletree is expected to stay on the field in the nickel defense.

With Dunbar's suspension looming, the Rams signed Will Witherspoon on July 22, and he quickly became the starter on the strong side. The development of rookie free agents Ray Ray Armstrong, Daren Bates and Jonathan Stewart also likely contributed to the decision to part ways with Dunbar.

Bates is the backup to Witherspoon, while Stewart is the backup in the middle behind James Laurinaitis and Armstrong is Ogletree's backup.

With Dunbar released, [hilite]his $1.3 million salary is wiped off the books[/hilite], although he was already losing over $300,000 during the suspension. The remaining $994,000 won't count against the Rams' salary cap, although they will be charged $500,000 for the proration from the $1 million signing bonus he received in 2012. The Rams are also subject to a fine of about $102,000 because Dunbar was the team's third player suspended in this calendar year.

 

[Username]

Wow, are you fucking kidding me?

 

[LosAngelesRams]

Wow.... :evil:

 

[Dagonet]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...nbar-cut-from-suspended-list-by-st-louis-rams

Jo-Lonn Dunbar cut from suspended list by St. Louis Rams

By Dan Hanzus
Around the League Writer
Published: Sept. 3, 2013 at 05:50 p.m. Updated: Sept. 3, 2013 at 06:12 p.m.

Jo-Lonn Dunbar survived final cutdowns with the St. Louis Rams on Saturday. He still wasn't safe.

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reported Tuesday that Dunbar has been released, according to a source informed of the move. Howard Balzer had the first report.

The move comes nearly three weeks after Dunbar was suspended without pay for the first four games of the 2013 season for violating the NFL policy on performance-enhancing substances.

Dunbar said at the time he "mistakenly took something that prompted a failed drug test." NFL Network's Michelle Beisner talked to a Rams source who said Dunbar's failed test was not a result of PED use.

The decision to dump Dunbar is a curious move. The weakside linebacker was a 16-game starter last season, who finished with 115 tackles and 4.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and two interceptions. Something tells us there could be more to the story.
Will Witherspoon, signed by the team in July, will now take over for Dunbar on a more permanent basis. Witherspoon is expected to play alongside first-round draft pick Alec Ogletree and veteran James Laurinaitis.

Dunbar was the 15th-best 4-3 outside linebacker last season, according to ProFootballFocus.com. He should be able to catch on somewhere.

 

[Yamahopper]

It's getting the money off the books now and if he is still on the market when his suspension is over him being a Ram could be re-visited. IMO the door to Rams park is shut to Dunbar. Somehow he has pissed off the Fish.
Or
Like Clemens last year, getting released before the 1st game and resigned after so his contract wouldn't be guaranteed for rest of the season might whats going on.

 

[CGI_Ram]

The decision to dump Dunbar is a curious move. The weakside linebacker was a 16-game starter last season, who finished with 115 tackles and 4.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and two interceptions. Something tells us there could be more to the story.

^ This.

 

[RhodyRams]

By Howard Balzer for KSDK Sports
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.ksdk.com/sports/article/396149/6/Rams-release-LB-Jo-Lonn-Dunbar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.ksdk.com/sports/article/3961 ... onn-Dunbar</a>


(KSDK Sports) -- Rams coach Jeff Fisher wasn't pleased when linebacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar was suspended for the first four games of the season for violating the NFL's policy on performance enhancing drugs.

Tuesday, we learned just how disappointed when they terminated Dunbar's contract just as he is beginning his suspension.

Dunbar was set to be the team's starting strong-side linebacker when the suspension came down. He played on the weak side last season, and stayed on the field in passing situations where he struggled at times.

The selection of Alec Ogletree in the first round of the draft resulted in Dunbar switching sides, and Ogletree is expected to stay on the field in the nickel defense.

With Dunbar's suspension looming, the Rams signed Will Witherspoon on July 22, and he quickly became the starter on the strong side. The development of rookie free agents Ray Ray Armstrong, Daren Bates and Jonathan Stewart also likely contributed to the decision to part ways with Dunbar.

Bates is the backup to Witherspoon, while Stewart is the backup in the middle behind James Laurinaitis and Armstrong is Ogletree's backup.

With Dunbar released, [hilite]his $1.3 million salary is wiped off the books[/hilite], although he was already losing over $300,000 during the suspension. The remaining $994,000 won't count against the Rams' salary cap, although they will be charged $500,000 for the proration from the $1 million signing bonus he received in 2012. The Rams are also subject to a fine of about $102,000 because Dunbar was the team's third player suspended in this calendar year.

so I am confused here, are they saving $1.3 mill, $994K or 494K...my guess says $800k ($1.3 mill - $500K signing bonus)


and can they re-sign him after week one on a non guaranteed contract that doesnt count against the cap

 

[LumberTubs]

They knew about the 4 game suspension long before that was announced publicly. Is it possible they've just learned of something else that won't become public knowledge for a little while in much the same way?

Seems to me that Fisher and this front office know what they're doing generally so I'm inclined to believe that there's a damn good reason for this

 

[Dagonet]

The decision to dump Dunbar is a curious move. The weakside linebacker was a 16-game starter last season, who finished with 115 tackles and 4.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and two interceptions. Something tells us there could be more to the story.

^ This.

Agreed.. 101 reported a few minutes ago someone tweeted that it wasn't PED's.. I didn't catch who it was though and it was no one I have heard of. Just saying though. Time will tell.

 

[RamFan503]

I buy it. I know everyone had a hard-on for JoLonn and I liked him too. But that position generally garners a lot of action so whoever takes that spot will likely have similar stats. Is it a real mystery that Jo Lonn's best season - BY FAR - was his first season in Fish's system? Dude had almost as many tackles last year as he had the four years prior. He had no INTs and only 2 career sacks prior to last year. Player? Roids? Or was it more a result of a system? We'll see who steps up.

The thing I like about the move if confirmed? Fisher is making a statement that he is not going to screw around with players who insist on putting themselves ahead of the team (Yes - that's is aimed at you and your JJ comments Alan :bign: ). I am certainly disappointed in Dunbar's actions. Now he ought not let the door hit him in the ass on the way out.

 

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They knew about the 4 game suspension long before that was announced publicly. Is it possible they've just learned of something else that won't become public knowledge for a little while in much the same way?

Seems to me that Fisher and this front office know what they're doing generally so I'm inclined to believe that there's a damn good reason for this

Yeah, probably. I don't know that Fisher would have done this because he was pissed off, because that would be putting his ego ahead of the good of the team. I'll reserve judgement on this until all the facts are out, because there HAS to be something that we all don't know going on. Or maybe someone else is ready to step up and take on that role without us losing much productivity. And only Fisher would know that.

 

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[CGI_Ram]

Fisher is making a statement that he is not going to screw around with players who insist on putting themselves ahead of the team (Yes - that's is aimed at you and your JJ comments Alan :bign: ). I am certainly disappointed in Dunbar's actions. Now he ought not let the door hit him in the ass on the way out.

I think any good coach (or business manager, by the way) takes advantage of the opportunity to send these types of messages when he has players in the wings ready to step up. If this is Fisher showing his authority and setting a tone, I get it.

But... I still think we'll hear more to this story. I suspect he screwed up again.

 

[LosAngelesRams]

God I hope he doesn't get picked up by another team in the division... I don't know about this move... just doesn't seem right. I understand he might of wanted to make a statement but that's a little too much imo.

 

[Tron]

Now who is gonna knock out the Whiners QB

 

[Thordaddy]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...nbar-cut-from-suspended-list-by-st-louis-rams

Jo-Lonn Dunbar cut from suspended list by St. Louis Rams

By Dan Hanzus
Around the League Writer
Published: Sept. 3, 2013 at 05:50 p.m. Updated: Sept. 3, 2013 at 06:12 p.m.

Jo-Lonn Dunbar survived final cutdowns with the St. Louis Rams on Saturday. He still wasn't safe.

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reported Tuesday that Dunbar has been released, according to a source informed of the move. Howard Balzer had the first report.

The move comes nearly three weeks after Dunbar was suspended without pay for the first four games of the 2013 season for violating the NFL policy on performance-enhancing substances.

Dunbar said at the time he "mistakenly took something that prompted a failed drug test." NFL Network's Michelle Beisner talked to a Rams source who said Dunbar's failed test was not a result of PED use.

The decision to dump Dunbar is a curious move. The weakside linebacker was a 16-game starter last season, who finished with 115 tackles and 4.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and two interceptions. Something tells us there could be more to the story.
Will Witherspoon, signed by the team in July, will now take over for Dunbar on a more permanent basis. Witherspoon is expected to play alongside first-round draft pick Alec Ogletree and veteran James Laurinaitis.

Dunbar was the 15th-best 4-3 outside linebacker last season, according to ProFootballFocus.com. He should be able to catch on somewhere.

OK so was it a PED or a recreational drug violation we have some conflicting reports here and FWIW if it's for rec. drug use it has to be his second violation for it to be 4 games ALONG with periodic further testing which he could have pissed hot on AGAIN.

Just raising possibilities , we specalate here .

 

[PhxRam]

They knew about the 4 game suspension long before that was announced publicly. Is it possible they've just learned of something else that won't become public knowledge for a little while in much the same way?

Seems to me that Fisher and this front office know what they're doing generally so I'm inclined to believe that there's a damn good reason for this

Yeah, probably. I don't know that Fisher would have done this because he was pissed off, because that would be putting his ego ahead of the good of the team. I'll reserve judgement on this until all the facts are out, because there HAS to be something that we all don't know going on. Or maybe someone else is ready to step up and take on that role without us losing much productivity. And only Fisher would know that.

But why wait so long to release him?

I am starting to lean towards the theory he is coming back.