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It's going to be hard to pass on Clowney

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by FRO, Mar 19, 2014.

  1. NJRamsFan Cocaine Cowboy

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    Yeah you're right I suppose I overlooked the scholarship a little. Im sure he did slack off education wise as most nfl prospects do, but thats neither here nor there. Should he have worked harder to secure a backup plan, sure he probably should have. however if he didn't, and he is placed in a situation where its okay Jadaveon, you would likely be the number one overall pick in the nfl this year but you can't leave yet. The only possible things that could happen to him playing another full season are negative. Everything leading up to that was a product of his decisions, but once he reached a point where he could do nothing but risk a shot at his dream, fame, and financial stability, i might have pumped the breaks too. Been a little more cautious. thats just my take, so i don't think it should be a real concern.
     
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  2. blackbart Well-Known Member

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    Do you know if he has ever admitted to "pumping the breaks" and his reasoning? I could see that going a long way toward calming some of those fears for someone that is going to potentially pay him.
     
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  3. NJRamsFan Cocaine Cowboy

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    Nope. I mean I've heard others speculate the same, but like i said thats just my take. What it looked like to me watching him
     
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  4. RaminExile Well-Known Member

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    Texan's will take a QB wont they? Age old adage is if you don't have a franchise QB - Get one!
     
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  5. NJRamsFan Cocaine Cowboy

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    If they deem one of these guys to be a franchise QB than yeah I would think so
     
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  6. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    I think that's more about evaluation than anything. Locker, Ponder, and Gabbert were cruddy QB prospects(at least I thought they were). And you're always going to have GMs that make bad evaluations.

    Schneider did a great job...but he's not the rule, imo, he's the exception. Most teams who try to do that end up failing. Look at the Chiefs.
     
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  7. max Well-Known Member

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    The chiefs failed?

    Remind me again how many games they won last year as a failed team.
     
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  8. LesBaker Mr. Savant

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    I am unimpressed by this highlight film.

    What is it that people see here that I am missing?

    I don't see any special plays at all.
     
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  9. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    After they acquired a former #1 pick?

    It's been 26 years since a Chiefs drafted QB won a playoff game.
     
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  10. rdlkgliders Hugo Bezdek

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    Try to keep that on the down low Max. Lets hope that their are GM's that still haven't learned.
     
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  11. Tron Fights for the User

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    Just started looking into this thread and only read the first page lol, so if this was covered then my bad. I will read the other pages after I reply here. I know you've talked at length about him, but I have to add my 2 cents to that one line at least. Haynesworth was a beast under Fisher, and his playing under him is what lead him to that monster contract from the skins. So if getting Clowney means we get a elite talent that dominates for most of his first contract, then thats fine. ok, thats all, off to read the rest now.
     
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  12. RamzFanz Well-Known Member Pit Boss

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    No way we pass on JC at 2 unless they learn more than we know. How could you? Quinn/Clowney in this division? That's lights out defense right there. Rams have holes. Rams need to fill those holes to win. Not at 2 though when you have the potential to build a historic pass rush.

    HOWEVER, I would so trade out and grab some seriouse talent in other positions if I could. If I couldn't, Clowney is a no brainer.
     
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  13. Alan Well-Known Member

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    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HaynAl20.htm
    Two good years leading up to his FA contract. Those two good years happened in 2007 & 2008. His first year was in 2002 so we're talking about two years out of how many? Go to the link for his career stats.

    I'm hoping that he'll be a huge factor in our being able to trade down. Other than that I'll pass.
     
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  14. Rambitious1 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not so sure.
    I'm getting a ton of red flags on the guy.
    From him being just an athlete and not an instinctive/intuitive football player, to work ethic, to effort......IMHO too risky to spend a pick that high on a guy with that many red flags.
     
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