Is Joe Barksdale Hurt?

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...who's Jerome Barksdale? Is he Joe's cousin?
 

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Oops. A fraternity brother of mine.
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I don't know if he's hurt or not, but it's almost impossible for him to live up to the expectations that got piled onto him early in the season after a good few games. Still a good RT, but that pricetag has undoubtedly taken a hit heading into free agency.
 

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Jerome Barksdale? You do realize this automatically revokes your Horns card, don't you? :huh:
 

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Got to say I've not seen anything about Bazooka Joe being hurt! Anyone?
 

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He's not very good against speed rushers. But he tightened up and played well the rest of the game after Kerrigan made him his bitch.
 

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Jerome Barksdale? You do realize this automatically revokes your Horns card, don't you? :huh:
Kinda harsh ain't it? US OLDER GUYS GET NAMES MIXED UP SOMETIMES! Oops, fat fingered the caps lock! Sorry about the shouting!
 

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We got so spoiled never seeing Joe get burned. You're right @Memphis Ram, I've seen him whiff more recently than in the last few years combined. He's still solid run blocking, but speed rushers are making him look bad. It wouldn't surprise me if he's been trying to play through an injury. Tough, classy ROD Member and contributor - Can't help but be in his corner.
 

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He typically struggles against the 3-4 teams. Today Kerrigan got him a few times.
 

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I hated the play in the red zone that they turned Kerrigan loose with Tre left to block him. I'm not sure if that was a miscue or by design but Tre is not the guy I'd leave to block Kerrigan.
 

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According to stats.com he had given up 7 sacks going into today.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=24879

Is he still the lock to return in 2015 that many assumed earlier this year?

I've saw somewhere that Barrett Jones was working at OT again. Makes me wonder.

Maybe. I still think he's retained. They'll want to keep the chemistry with us likely replacing our RG and Center and Joe is young.

But I'd say Joe just isn't an elite pass protector. Athletic guys can give him some issues and for whatever reason, Schotty wasn't giving him help early on with Kerrigan. Don't know why he wasn't chipping him when Kerrigan is their only defender that I'd call a good starter or better.
 

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According to stats.com he had given up 7 sacks going into today.
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=24879
Is he still the lock to return in 2015 that many assumed earlier this year?
I've saw somewhere that Barrett Jones was working at OT again. Makes me wonder.

Very Good Question ?
Not so sure Memphis I been pointing JB deficiencies out in the Chat Room against 34 defense for a while now. JB had a much better season in 2013 than 2014. Think how bad we have been trashing Scott Wells & Davin Joseph now it becomes a little clearer and find out that they looks good in comparison. It should be an eye opener for many.Check it out for yourselves:
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/teamstats.asp?teamno=14&type=rosters
OLG/Rodger Saffold- One 1/2 sacks allowed
OC/Scott Wells- two sack allowed
ORG/Davin Joseph-three sacks allowed
OLT/Greg Robinson -three 1/2 sacks allowed
ORT/Joe Barksdale- Seven Sacks allowed

As far as Barrett Jones working out some @ OT ???one would think that its about time cause he did win several big awards playing OT for Bama on a championship team.



 

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Honestly I'd like to see JB resigned TBH... I'd rather keep him and go interior line hunting this offseason. Is JB a All Pro? No. But he's far from being the biggest problem we have on the O-Line right Mr. Wells and Mr. Joseph?
 

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He's still an above average RT imo, is young, athletic, and still has room to grow. He's had some tough matchups this year that I think a lot of people over look when they see his sack numbers:

Justin Houston, Von Miller, and Ryan Kerrigan are all premier pass rushers and are each among the league leaders in sacks.
 

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Very Good Question ?
Not so sure Memphis I been pointing JB deficiencies out in the Chat Room against 34 defense for a while now. JB had a much better season in 2013 than 2014. Think how bad we have been trashing Scott Wells & Davin Joseph now it becomes a little clearer and find out that they looks good in comparison. It should be an eye opener for many.Check it out for yourselves:
http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/teamstats.asp?teamno=14&type=rosters
OLG/Rodger Saffold- One 1/2 sacks allowed
OC/Scott Wells- two sack allowed
ORG/Davin Joseph-three sacks allowed
OLT/Greg Robinson -three 1/2 sacks allowed
ORT/Joe Barksdale- Seven Sacks allowed

As far as Barrett Jones working out some @ OT ???one would think that its about time cause he did win several big awards playing OT for Bama on a championship team.

It isn't. We see every snap of every game. Joseph and Wells are clearly worse players than Barksdale. Sack stats don't tell the whole story. Don't even tell 25% of the story. Especially when you compare IOLs to OTs. Just not a fair comparison.

Joe has had some issues this year but he's a far better player on a per snap basis than Wells and Joseph.
 

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It isn't. We see every snap of every game. Joseph and Wells are clearly worse players than Barksdale. Sack stats don't tell the whole story. Don't even tell 25% of the story. Especially when you compare IOLs to OTs. Just not a fair comparison.

Joe has had some issues this year but he's a far better player on a per snap basis than Wells and Joseph.
Damn, perfect way to put it. That's my thoughts in words! lol
 

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I agree that he is not that 'slow'---that one sack it was like he was getting out of his stance lile a 350 lb guard. He has always had smooth quickness; I always thought he was a good pass blocker; for about the last 5-6 games he doesn't look the same...he is hurt...many guys play hurt this time of year...so, I am happy he is toughing it out.
 

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It isn't. We see every snap of every game. Joseph and Wells are clearly worse players than Barksdale. Sack stats don't tell the whole story. Don't even tell 25% of the story. Especially when you compare IOLs to OTs. Just not a fair comparison.

Joe has had some issues this year but he's a far better player on a per snap basis than Wells and Joseph.

You will certainly get no argument from me on your last sentence. I agree stats do not tell the whole story but it is one of the better ways to try to determine the play of the individual players. And yes by observing the actual play that certainly causes all of use to all see different things during each play from each player too. It can also be said that many time when the OT blocks fail they are assisted greatly by a RB, FB or a TE to save the day too, instances where a bad poor blocker is rescued from a sure sack. I think those stats are FAIR enough but not complete .....but when you say they are Not a FAIR comparison ....I will not join with you in agreement on that statement.

Was it not you Jrry32 who here in this forum earlier this year claimed & argued that the responsibilities of the interior OL like Wells & Joseph were just as important as the exterior OT's? You claimed that most defenses were sending quick pass rushers & grouped speeders up the interior of the OL as much or more than just outside. That the past emphasis of high value on the OLT & ORT's had diminished as offenses attacked the middle. Which I will agreed. (Thus why a DT like Aaron Donald has great value & great impact) If you have forgotten I can search for it.

You will never find or read anything from me stating that interior OL'ers Wells or Joseph were better or equal players to Barksdale period never happened. Those stats on Wells-Joseph & Barksdale were eye opening if you want them to be! MemphisRam post subject was on those STATS . Yes both well seasoned long starters in the NFL (Wells & Joseph) must be replaced in our OL in 2015. The much younger Barksdale is in his first season as a starter, is totally different.

Claims that OT's are out-there by themselves all the time is a sure myth & a large one at that. To claim that a ORT responsibilities are more important the majority of the time to a OG or OC is incorrect......Anyone who takes time to read my posts know I place a great need to having 3 solid OT's on a team as a priority, so I do not undervalue Joe Barksdale's or a Jake Long's responsibilities.

Yes Shotty offense places great stress on our OT's in passing situations (that's why we did not see Mason the first half of this season) he has not changed since he arrived do not think he will change in the future so he best get himself a trio of very good complete OT's if he is planing to get more successful blocking from his OT's to prevent our future QB from more injuries. I can say that JB having Joseph playing next to him has caused more issues this season. But last season he had Shelley Smith, Harvey Dahl & Rodger Saffold beside him.

In conclusion I know that Joe Barksdale is very popular here with most all members in this forum & its just about Taboo to say anything contrary to the popular belief that JB is a very good ORT in the NFL. .......I do not fall into that cadre who think that. JB is the best ORT we had in over a decade & sure happy he is a starting Ram on my team if JB was not here I have no ideal who could play ORT. But he is far from a complete NFL ORT in the passing game (as those stats point out).
 
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He is a solid starting RT. He is going to get beat at times...it appears he struggles a bit against faster rushers in the 3-4 alignment.

I hope they resign him. I think it is important to bring in another lineman that can play inside and both tackle positions as well if needed. Every player has some weakness...Schotty probably needs to do a little tweaking here and there to give Barksdale a little help against some of those faster edge rushers at times.