If we lose does Goff start the next week?

[Big Game]

If it does happen, I'd sure love it to be next week since I'll be at the game.

Me too hahahhaha

 

[JIMERAMS]

as long as we keep winning I don't give a shit who our QB is. why is it so important for Goff to be starting for some of you guys?

 

[Ramlock]

The Eagles did that with Ron Jaworski and Randall Cunningham back in the mid-80's, as Jaws' career was winding down and Cunningham was a rookie. Randall would come in for a series or two in the first half -- sometimes also in the second half, if the Eagles had either a comfortable lead or no shot at winning the game.

It's unconventional, for sure -- but not unprecedented.

I had forgotten about Jaws and Randall - nice recall!

That was a long time ago......doesn't happen much

Just win

Oh, and I do love to see Quinn and Donald search and destroy! Tone setters!

 

[Corbin]

as long as we keep winning I don't give a crap who our QB is. why is it so important for Goff to be starting for some of you guys?

I think this is my thought process now. Just as long as we are winning I don't give a shit if Hekker is the QB.

All hell breaks loose if we lose a few in a row though! Lol
God forbid that!

 

[Roman Snow]

as long as we keep winning I don't give a crap who our QB is. why is it so important for Goff to be starting for some of you guys?

Not me. Although I think the distinction needs to be made. You don't mean forever. Right?

Winning is what matters. But after all the Bradford, Foles, draft picks traded, Goff- I'd like that to bear fruit. Make sense?

If Goff NEVER played and busted? and we went on to win the Super Bowl with Keenum, or even Mannion, yes, part of me would be irked. Especially draft day 2017.

But yes. I get the big picture. Success. Win. Not player based thinking. Team based thinking.

 

[Zaphod]

as long as we keep winning I don't give a crap who our QB is. why is it so important for Goff to be starting for some of you guys?

So nice, I liked it twice

 

[Picked4td]

as long as we keep winning I don't give a crap who our QB is. why is it so important for Goff to be starting for some of you guys?

I dont want to speak for anyone else, but personally its because being 3-1 doesnt guarantee any future wins. If you could guarantee me that continuing to play keenum is going to result in wins you would have a point, but you cant. People dont want Goff starting because being 11-5 with goff as a starter is any better/different than being 11-5 with keenum as the starter. People want Goff because hes the better talent and while we are currently 3-1, we also are bottom of the league in most offensive stats, and its a bit unrealistic to think we can continue to win at a 75% rate with such lackluster offensive play

If we were winning games because of Keenum or at least him contributing significantly there would be as many people demanding Goff to start, but the truth is Keenum (and the offense as a whole) has only done just enough to get these 3 wins, and just enough isnt good enough

 

[jrry32]

I dont want to speak for anyone else, but personally its because being 3-1 doesnt guarantee any future wins. If you could guarantee me that continuing to play keenum is going to result in wins you would have a point, but you cant. People dont want Goff starting because being 11-5 with goff as a starter is any better/different than being 11-5 with keenum as the starter. People want Goff because hes the better talent and while we are currently 3-1, we also are bottom of the league in most offensive stats, and its a bit unrealistic to think we can continue to win at a 75% rate with such lackluster offensive play

If we were winning games because of Keenum or at least him contributing significantly there would be as many people demanding Goff to start, but the truth is Keenum (and the offense as a whole) has only done just enough to get these 3 wins, and just enough isnt good enough

Well, I think part of it is that 11-5 with Goff as the starter is better. Simply because Goff is more likely to improve with experience.

 

[Picked4td]

Well, I think part of it is that 11-5 with Goff as the starter is better. Simply because Goff is more likely to improve with experience.

i can understand that thinking, but personally theres way more to it than just the record. You'd think at 3-1 Keenum and/or the rams offense would be better than they've been but they havent, and same could happen with goff 11-5, but I get your point of hes more likely to improve. I guess I could have said it better but what I meant was that its not like people arent happy with us winning with keenum, but that keenum has done just enough and goff could offer more than that

 

[dieterbrock]

The Eagles did that with Ron Jaworski and Randall Cunningham back in the mid-80's, as Jaws' career was winding down and Cunningham was a rookie. Randall would come in for a series or two in the first half -- sometimes also in the second half, if the Eagles had either a comfortable lead or no shot at winning the game.

It's unconventional, for sure -- but not unprecedented.

Well, Cunningham started the 2nd game of the season in his rookie season. I only know that because he played against the Rams. Started a bunch of games in his rookie year IIRC

 

[JIMERAMS]

I dont want to speak for anyone else, but personally its because being 3-1 doesnt guarantee any future wins. If you could guarantee me that continuing to play keenum is going to result in wins you would have a point, but you cant. People dont want Goff starting because being 11-5 with goff as a starter is any better/different than being 11-5 with keenum as the starter. People want Goff because hes the better talent and while we are currently 3-1, we also are bottom of the league in most offensive stats, and its a bit unrealistic to think we can continue to win at a 75% rate with such lackluster offensive play

If we were winning games because of Keenum or at least him contributing significantly there would be as many people demanding Goff to start, but the truth is Keenum (and the offense as a whole) has only done just enough to get these 3 wins, and just enough isnt good enough

so what your saying is Goff will guarantee us 11-5? im not understanding this post. who says Goff wont lose the next 2-3-5 games? no guarantee he will win games or even be better and I am a Goff fan we just don't have a clue as to what would happen.

 

[JIMERAMS]

Not me. Although I think the distinction needs to be made. You don't mean forever. Right?

Winning is what matters. But after all the Bradford, Foles, draft picks traded, Goff- I'd like that to bear fruit. Make sense?

If Goff NEVER played and busted? and we went on to win the Super Bowl with Keenum, or even Mannion, yes, part of me would be irked. Especially draft day 2017.

But yes. I get the big picture. Success. Win. Not player based thinking. Team based thinking.

no not forever I am a big Goff fan too and im sure when he does get to take the field he will be fine but no one can say right now that he will help or hurt us its an unknown to everyone. what happens if he comes in and looks really bad and we lose? do we want to take that chance while we are winning or after we lose?

 

[Roman Snow]

what happens if he comes in and looks really bad and we lose? do we want to take that chance while we are winning or after we lose?

What happens if he comes in and lights it up, and our offense becomes as dynamic as I picture it? With our defense peaking, the sky is the limit.

I think people are overstating the downside.

 

[JackDRams]

Me too hahahhaha

You'll be at the Lions game? Where abouts you sitting?

 

[JIMERAMS]

What happens if he comes in and lights it up, and our offense becomes as dynamic as I picture it? With our defense peaking, the sky is the limit.

I think people are overstating the downside.

that would be great but we don't know what will happen and that is my point. is it worth taking the chance when we are winning? that's the question and if we do and we lose every post on this board will be I told you or hes a bust. if we start to lose bad or keenum blows up then hell ya put Goff in imo

 

[Big Game]

You'll be at the Lions game? Where abouts you sitting?

My bad JackDRams we are going to the game this weekend VS Bills. Trying to work out the lions game waiting to here back on if my buddy can get us cheap flights.

 

[jrry32]

that would be great but we don't know what will happen and that is my point. is it worth taking the chance when we are winning? that's the question and if we do and we lose every post on this board will be I told you or hes a bust. if we start to lose bad or keenum blows up then hell ya put Goff in imo

We don't know what will happen with Keenum either. He's been an inconsistent QB throughout his career.

 

[Picked4td]

so what your saying is Goff will guarantee us 11-5? im not understanding this post. who says Goff wont lose the next 2-3-5 games? no guarantee he will win games or even be better and I am a Goff fan we just don't have a clue as to what would happen.

No, in fact I said the exact opposite in my post. No one knows what will happen with Keenum or Goff at QB for the rest of the season. Yes we are 3-1 atm with keenum, but we could still go 0-12 the rest of the way with Keenum. Previous wins dont guarantee you wins going forward so the best way to help ensure more wins is to continue improving and the spot that needs the biggest improvement is the offense, and with a 1st overall pick QB waiting to play he becomes the obvious answer to most fans.

What Im saying is its not that people hate that we are winning with Keenum and want to play Goff no matter what, people just understand that even though we are 3-1, what Keenum and the offense has done thus far is bottom of the league and not enough to be a legit playoff team, so they would like Goff to start and hope that helps the offense.

 

[-X-]

What Im saying is its not that people hate that we are winning with Keenum and want to play Goff no matter what

I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss that premise. Let me tell you what I've seen so far. In the GDT, for example, people have been REALLY rough on Keenum early on (first two games), and afterward there were a shit ton of posts centered around getting him the hell out of the offense and inserting Goff - even if he isn't ready. Then, the next couple of games, after Keenum started doing better and the team continued winning, those same people weren't even to be found in the GDT. It became apparent that Keenum doing well gave them nothing to talk about. It was almost like they were reluctant to celebrate winning, because it meant Goff's debut was going to be delayed. And that really sucks for some people. Despite what they say to the contrary.

 

[OldSchool]

Really hard to say like others have pointed out a loss doesn't mean Keenum was bad and a win doesn't mean Keenum was good. Trying to guess what Fisher is going to do will only drive you to either drink even more than you already do or you'll end up getting one of those nice white jackets and a cool padded room.

 

[Mackeyser]

If Goff is ready, he should start this week. If he's not, he shouldn't. Winning or losing should be irrelevant.

I can't believe I have to put this here... Winning is never irrelevant....it's the POINT...

If we finish last in ever offensive category and go 12-4 and make a deep playoff run or better still win the Super Bowl, I'll take that. If that's how it goes...I'll take it.

If this Rams team lifts the Lombardi having had the worst offense of the Super Bowl era...I'll take that.

It's not my preference as anyone who's read anything I've posted over the last 6+ months can attest, but winning has to be the ONLY consideration. Why? Because tomorrow is promised to no one.

Ask any team that "built for tomorrow" only to have a spate of injuries and see that window slammed shut before it ever got opened. I get that we need to invest in the future. That said, any player on the field has to be able to WIN on the field or they shouldn't BE on the field. And not for tomorrow, next month or next year...NOW.

Can't believe I might be agreeing with Fisher on this... /shudder