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I am still bitter, need therapy, SB 36

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by ABIGRAMFAN, Aug 12, 2014.

  1. rams2050 New Member

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    I will never get over it. I just know the Cheats cheated, and they (and the NFL) deprived my beloved Rams of their second SB. It sucks!
     
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  2. Boston Ram Well-Known Member

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    I hear complaints about this all the time, but the truth is the refs never call anything in any Super Bowl or championship games. By in large the whistles get put away. Its the same way in every sport, NBA, NHL, the whistles get put away and they let the boys play.

    Pats still cheated and that is fine as the football gods have made sure they have not won since.

    That all being said, we still should of won that game.
     
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  3. Zombie Slayer Well-Known Member

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    True but it still doesn't excuse the no call on intentional grounding and stopping the clock when the player was tackled in bounds on that drive.
     
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  4. Zombie Slayer Well-Known Member

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    I don't think about that game much anymore but I still get a little mad when I do. But I think the Raiders can be just as mad as anyone. That tuck rule call was probably the worst call in nfl history. Especially considering the time it was called and the huge impact it had. Clearly Brady wasn't going to throw the ball on that play. Patriots should have never even been in the super bowl that year at all. But that's why I root for all Boston sports teams to lose. Plus living near Boston for two years I've seen how much in denial they are over what happened and how Goddell swept everything under the rug for them.
     
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  5. snackdaddy Well-Known Member

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    I'm not saying there wasn't something fishy going on in that game. But I blame Martz. Their defense dared us to run and he still threw the ball. We had one of the best running backs in the game. Give em a heavy dose of Faulk and they woulda backed off into a more traditional defense. Then we woulda torched them with the pass. Martz's arrogance caused that loss as much as the refs.
     
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  6. Ram Quixote Knight Errant

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    First off, the zebras flagged Conwell early on a ticky-tack holding call, while Holt was being blatantly held.
    Second, don't you think the zebras (with the evidence above) would have flagged the Rams for every major gain in the running game? Which would have put us back into passing mode anyway.

    I see these arguments all the time. The fact that the early part of the game favored the Patriots penalty-wise confirms that the fix was in.
     
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  7. Boston Ram Well-Known Member

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    I agree, but I will always have a tough time blaming the officials in this one. They called McGinest for holding Faulk on Tebucky Jones' 97 yard TD that got called back. That would of given NE a 24-3 lead with 10:36 left in the fourth, instead we converted and scored to make it 17-10. Its all perspective I guess. It will be bitter for all Ram fans, no matter who we want to blame
     
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  8. GreeneCounty Well-Known Member

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    I also recall Martz having that squib kick excuted in the Pats last drive.
     
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  9. Dieter the Brock SON OF JEN-ORIS

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    I was on the phone the start of that game with my buddy and we were jacked
    Then they announced the Rams offense and all our offensive starters came out on the field
    THEN the Pats all came on the field as a team....
    We both fell silent
    Then he mentioned "that's not good"
    We both had a simultaneous sinking feeling that it was gonna be a lot tougher than we had imagined
    Belichick being a dick or not is a pretty damn good coach and he had them all together that day
    Notice ever since that Super Bowl -everyone there after, they've announced the entire team when they come on the field
     
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  10. Stranger How big is infinity?

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    it was awesome payback for the nfl elite, they screwed Georgia and Al Davis in the same playoff year.
     
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  11. Ramatik Well-Known Member

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    I will never get over it.

    Dirty Bastids.
     
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  12. Ram Quixote Knight Errant

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    Let's get one thing straight. That was the ONLY defensive holding call all game. On top of that, Bernie Kukar, the head zebra, tried to have the flag picked up--by his own admission. He spent several minutes in conference with the ref who called the holding. Besides, McGinest held Faulk's leg. If there was a reason the play failed, it was because Faulk was held.
     
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  13. RamGal New Member

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    I remember watching the game with my husband, and saying the same thing, "that's not good." He told me I was over-reacting.
     
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  14. kurtfaulk Well-Known Member

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    he didn't hold him, he tackled him. on what would have been an easy td pass to faulk. even crooked refs have their standards, except kukar. they made it all better on that last drive anyway, holding brady's hand all the way down the field.

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  15. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    I wonder how many Rams fan felt the same way, because I thought it was a bad omen too at the time.
     
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  16. RamGal New Member

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    I heard the same story years ago, from several different sources, because I knew people in the hotel industry at the time.
     
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  17. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    Side note: I recently heard a radio interview with Grant Wistrom who said (paraphrasing), "If we can lose a Super Bowl because we were stupid enough to practice super secret plays in an open stadium that anyone (from the other team) can access, then we deserved to lose."
     
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  18. Boston Ram Well-Known Member

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    If we are getting things straight there were 2 defensive holding calls and a PI. 1st quarter at 5:42 on Terrell Buckley which was declined. At 10:10 Otis Smith got flagged for PI which was excepted. It was a 9 yard route in which he held Holt, so they could of called PI or holding. Then there was a 4th quarter defensive holding on Tebucky Jones on a punt that was also declined. If you include the declined calls, NE was actually flagged more than the Rams. The penalties and yards was just about even.

    I don't want to argue but you said it was fixed and if it was fixed it would of been easier to let the 97 yard TD stand. I disagree the game was fixed. I agree that the Pats cheated and Martz got stubborn on the 2nd half and ultimately that cost us the game, not the refs.
     
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  19. ABIGRAMFAN New Member

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    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it is so nice to know I am not alone in my agony. You are truly my people, my brothers, my Ram family.
     
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  20. Stranger How big is infinity?

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    Right, they absolutely had to call that one. It was so blatantly obvious, and that play would have been played over and over again on highlight reels, so it would have been tough to bury it. But even so, Kukar tried to fill his role dutifully.
     
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