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for our disappointing season thus far do you blame on the coaches?
 

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Game 1 was on the coaches, but todays loss rests squarely on the officials, they were determined to not let the Rams win.
 

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Man. So hard to say. So far I'm really disappointed in our D. But is it Williams's fault? I mean it doesn't matter who the DC is if our DL can't get pressure or sacks that's on the players, not the scheme, IMO. I know there is a lot of OL holding that isn't called but that's happens every game of every year. Why were we so effective the last two years and now we are not?

I would say 1/2 of the penalties have been warranted but 1/2 are just bad officiating so you can't point them all to the coaches.

There have been some bad OC calls by Shotty at critical times but when you put up 448 yards it's hard to complain too much.
 

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Said in another thread, coaches aren't the reason why we can't get sacks. At some point players need to execute. Some are, more aren't.
 

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If you look at it, the Offense, has played pretty well, with the exception of Game 1, because guys know Shotty's playbook. The defense, unfortunately, has not played as well as everyone has expected, but they are basically learning their 3rd defensive scheme in as many years. Even though Year 1 was Williams's defense, he wasn't the guy game planning and actually calling the defense. I hope this early bye week will get the kinks worked out and we play lights out in the Philly game. We definitely need CL and TJ back too.
 

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Game 1 was on the coaches, but todays loss rests squarely on the officials, they were determined to not let the Rams win.

I disagree. While the penalties definitely put us behind the 8 ball, we shot ourselves in the foot mutliple times. We had -10 today:

-Wells botches snap. Dallas scores 3
-4th and inches stuffed. 3 points left on the field
-Cook drops TD. 4 points left on the field
 

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I disagree. While the penalties definitely put us behind the 8 ball, we shot ourselves in the foot mutliple times. We had -10 today:

-Wells botches snap. Dallas scores 3
-4th and inches stuffed. 3 points left on the field
-Cook drops TD. 4 points left on the field

While I agree the Rams had chances to overcome the bad officiating, dallas had zero chance of winning without the help from the officials. The Rams should not have to overcome BS calls, it is hard enough to overcome mistakes without the officials helping the oponent.
 

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I'm not sure why many are saying that our offense played well. They only put up 17 points until the Cowgirls built up a decent lead. This against a team that was missing many of their starting LBs and who, just last year, had the worst D in the league.
 

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My only problem with the coaching is related to a) the OC slowness to incorporate WR reveres, screens and tosses until today and b) the DC over reliance of the 3 -3 -5 alignment (forces our best rushers in to too wide rushes creating huge run lanes especially on 2 and long) and his slow adjustment to the Cowboys adjustment to outsize zone to the inside zone runs in this game.

Actually thought this was one of the best games the OC has called. I especially like how he used WR reverses and the Toss and sweeps with Watts. This off script behavior ( in terms of his track prior ground and pound or pitch it to T Austin) gave our OL a chance to succeed whcich they did.
 

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I'm not sure why many are saying that our offense played well. They only put up 17 points until the Cowgirls built up a decent lead. This against a team that was missing many of their starting LBs and who, just last year, had the worst D in the league.

I was thinking the same thing Alan.

The OFFENSE was good enough to win with today, but they didn't stretch the lead... And were 32nd in points per game coming in. This offense has issues too...

But the Defense is farther away from expectations right now and getting all the attention.
 

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I'm not sure why many are saying that our offense played well. They only put up 17 points until the Cowgirls built up a decent lead. This against a team that was missing many of their starting LBs and who, just last year, had the worst D in the league.

I think compared to the D they looked like the GSOT. :cry:
 

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Plenty of blame to go around. My personal opinion is that just like in our first game, it was a complete team loss. I include the coaching staff too because again it didn't look like we were prepared and the lack of good second half adjustments was pathetic. As usual I'm afraid to say.
 

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I'm not sure why many are saying that our offense played well. They only put up 17 points until the Cowgirls built up a decent lead. This against a team that was missing many of their starting LBs and who, just last year, had the worst D in the league.

A 7 minute drive by Dallas against our "vaunted" D in the 4th certainly did us no favors.

Our offense helped stack us to a 21 point lead that our D couldn't hold. That bumbling broken coverage that led to the Bryant TD bent us over the barrel.
 

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All this premium talent on the D... And this is what we get? Defense is Fisher's specialty, right?

On offense we can't seem to figure out how to use Tavon. We are at the bottom of the league in points for the 3rd straight year.

Yeah, I think the coaching deserves some critique.
 

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Athos with some incorrect data:
Our offense helped stack us to a 21 point lead that our D couldn't hold.
That is incorrect. Our offense only scored 14 of those points. Our Offense only scored 14 points in the first 3 quarters.

EDIT: Sorry Athos, I just noticed that you said "helped us". My vision problems again. :(
 
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A 7 minute drive by Dallas against our "vaunted" D in the 4th certainly did us no favors.

Our offense helped stack us to a 21 point lead that our D couldn't hold. That bumbling broken coverage that led to the Bryant TD bent us over the barrel.


You did see the two hold during that play right? The hold on Donald and the obvious one when the dragged down Langford.. No way that TD would've happened.
 

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If you look at it, the Offense, has played pretty well, with the exception of Game 1, because guys know Shotty's playbook. The defense, unfortunately, has not played as well as everyone has expected, but they are basically learning their 3rd defensive scheme in as many years. Even though Year 1 was Williams's defense, he wasn't the guy game planning and actually calling the defense. I hope this early bye week will get the kinks worked out and we play lights out in the Philly game. We definitely need CL and TJ back too.

Agreed. But you have to wonder if Williams is really a coach who caters to his players' strengths because what I saw today was him forcing a square peg on a round hole. I'm confident this defense will find its rhythm midway through the season, I just hope there isn't too much damage done on this team.
 

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I'm confident this defense will find its rhythm midway through the season, I just hope there isn't too much damage done on this team.

But that's just it. Can't give games away like this trying to figure it out.

This is déjàvu 2013.
 

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The defense is to blame in this game
U should not blow a 21-0 lead like that i don't care who u play