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For the second-straight year, the Cleveland Browns started the offseason with some unexpected upheaval.

Offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan and quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains are leaving the team, according to Alex Marvez of Fox Sports and Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com.

Marvez reports that Shanahan quit while Loggains was fired.

The team hired Shanahan 11 months ago after a tumultous offseason that saw the coach, GM, and team CEO all get fired. He'll now pursue a head coaching job after he "asked for and was granted his release" from his Browns contract.

Loggains has been in Johnny Manziel's corner all year long. In fact, he played a key part in bringing him to Cleveland. On draft night, Manziel sent Loggains a text message saying "Hurry up and draft me."

Loggains used it to convince the team to draft him, he told ESPN radio:

"When I got that text, I forwarded it to the owner (Jimmy Haslam) and to the head coach (Mike Pettine). I'm like, 'This guy wants to be here. He wants to be part of it.' As soon as that happened, Mr. Haslam said, 'Pull the trigger. We're trading up to go get this guy.'"

The Browns picked Manziel at No. 22 overall.

After Manziel lost the starting job to Brian Hoyer in training camp, Loggains stood by him. He told Cleveland.com in September:

"There's a reason why he's a first-round pick. We're excited to work with that skillset he has. I'm not going to make projections. I'm not much into hypotheticals, but I'm pleased with where he's at right now. I think he needs to continue to get better, and I think if he does, he's got talent."

According to CBS's Pete Prisco, Loggains wanted Manziel to start from the beginning.

Manziel's season ended poorly. He didn't make it onto the field as a starter until Week 15, when he played so poorly in a loss to the Bengals that the NFL world ripped him to shreds. The next week he suffered a hamstring injury that ended his season.

At one point this season the Browns were 7-4 and looked to be moving forward as a franchise. Now it's mid-January, and the team is once again in turmoil.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/cleveland-browns-shanahan-qb-coach-2015-1#ixzz3OFrW8ZQy
 

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Dumb move. The owner makes the call and fires his qb coach.
The Browns never learn.
 

ChrisW

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The Browns proved their stupidity after they fired Chudzinski.
 

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The Browns proved their stupidity after they fired Chudzinski.
I was about to launch off into some wordy diatribe about how the Browns are the most confused franchise in the league.
But yeah, you got the cornerstone of my argument, so you win.
 

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Wow....and yall think we have it bad.....

I wanted to tell some, that the reason Bernie Kosar is held in high regard is the things he did for that franchise...Same with Marty Schottenheimer....yes, the daddy of Schotty....
 

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Oh boy.... hope Loggains isn't out new OC.

Obviously, he has very close ties with Fisher... no problem there.

But he actually lobbied for Manziel and thinks he can play NFL football?

THAT... I have a problem with.
 

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Wow....and yall think we have it bad.....

I wanted to tell some, that the reason Bernie Kosar is held in high regard is the things he did for that franchise...Same with Marty Schottenheimer....yes, the daddy of Schotty....

Bernie is beloved in CLE. I lived there my entire life up until a little over 4 years ago. It was what he did for the team yes, and also he was just a super likeable guy. Everyone loved him and he loved them back. Bernie talked to fans like he was just a guy shooting the shit, he was really "normal".

Some bad breaks lately for sure, but back in the day nobody was more loved by fans than him and Ozzie Newsome.

 

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"When I got that text, I forwarded it to the owner (Jimmy Haslam) and to the head coach (Mike Pettine). I'm like, 'This guy wants to be here. He wants to be part of it.' As soon as that happened, Mr. Haslam said, 'Pull the trigger. We're trading up to go get this guy.'"

This guy should never be hired again in his life.

Oh wait. :sneaky:

I hope the WHINERS hire him in some capacity.

Johnny ShitBall came across as a cheap sorority slut with that text nonsense begging to be drafted.

That dumbass organization would be in the playoffs with Bridgewater or Carr.
 

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Welp, at least we're not Browns fans. That really is a factory of sadness....
 

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Wonder how many teams he sent that text to
That seems really odd to me. Has anybody ever heard of this happening outside of this instance?... A player communicating directly to a team during the draft by texting the team on the clock "pick me, pick me!" or otherwise communicating directly. That just seems very weird but maybe it happens. It seems like a red flag and strikes me like a slutty desperate person at 2am at the bar ("hey hey, sweetheart. You look...upright. Wanna take me home?).
 

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That seems really odd to me. Has anybody ever heard of this happening outside of this instance?... A player communicating directly to a team during the draft by texting the team on the clock "pick me, pick me!" or otherwise communicating directly. That just seems very weird but maybe it happens. It seems like a red flag and strikes me like a slutty desperate person at 2am at the bar ("hey hey, sweetheart. You look...upright. Wanna take me home?).
Doesn't seem that odd to me, personally. The way he said it definitely doesn't sound like the way you should talk to your future employer, though.